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Paris Jackson Rushed to Hospital After Possible Suicide Attempt

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I cant see any court seperating the kids if blanket wants to stay with his siblings. not been related makes no difference imo.bob geldof took on his exs kid with hutchence when they both died. most of of the jacksons were strangers to the kids aswell
 
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Why would it be best for blanket to go live with a stranger?
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
I cant see any court seperating the kids if blanket wants to stay with his siblings. not been related makes no difference imo.bob geldof took on his exs kid with hutchence when they both died. most of of the jacksons were strangers to the kids aswell
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But they are not strangers now. And unlike Debbie, Blanket is related
 
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IMO for a court to remove the kids things would have to be so bad that would be dangerous for the kids to be there. Now I think if nutty Randy was coming by on a daiy basis then it could be. However I don't think he is allowed in the house
 
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When the kids lived with Katherine, they are not living with the stranger. They are living with their grandma, most of the Jacksons may be 'strangers' to michael's children except 3T but Katherine visited Michael and his kids once in a while. I believe the kids love their grandma and are familiar with her before Michael's death.
 
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Katherine and Joe Jackson were committed to making their children stars. They hit paydirt when Berry Gordy signed the Jackson 5 to his label. From that point forward the Jackson family were a Show Business Family. We know from Michael Jackson that Joe Jackson ruled with an iron fist, physically beating Michael to improve his God-given talent.

Katherine supports this demeanor. She has never sided with Michael Jackson in saying Joe was wrong in physically beating Michael. If this is what it took to produce a top-notch Show Business Family, so be it.

In come Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson, who incidentally were not raised with an iron fist to become Show Business entities. Katherine who is now the legal guardian would not see anything wrong with pushing Michael's children out in the limelight, as long as it benefited the whole flock. Case in point, how come all the cousin's were a part of the Oprah interview? Oprah wanted to interview Michael's 3 children and Katherine and Joe Jackson had various cousin's of Prince, Paris and Blanket's, as part of the interview. It was all a part of the Show Business mystique. This is why I think Paris is confused about the whole situation at Katherine's home. I'm not sure if Katherine can change at this point in her life. We've all been shocked, surprised at the actions of Katherine and why suddenly we see Michael's 3 children in Jackson Family Show Business ventures. Perhaps Paris does feel betrayed by it all and why this has affected her the way it has.

I mean, Oprah, has access to Michael's 3 children, when Oprah was using her Show in some kind of campaign against Michael Jackson's innocence. I'd be confused about honoring my father's memory, over honoring my Grandma's word!


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Justthefacts said:
But they are not strangers now. And unlike Debbie, Blanket is related
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The point I'm trying to make is that Blanket would likely want to be with his brother and sister as they are his closest relatives. And IF they want to go live elsewhere, Blanket will likely want to go with them, that's why I don't see a judge denying it. I'm not saying this will happen, but I don't think it's totally impossible.
 
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I don't wanna sound like I'm giving up, but it seems so hopeless. If Debbie isn't gonna try to get costudy then the children will not be taken away from the Jacksons. Nothing will get these children removed from the Jacksons care. No matter how much the Jacksons **** up and ruin these childrens life they still will not lose costudy. I think that has become painfully obvious.
 
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serendipity said:
The point I'm trying to make is that Blanket would likely want to be with his brother and sister as they are his closest relatives. And IF they want to go live elsewhere, Blanket will likely want to go with them, that's why I don't see a judge denying it. I'm not saying this will happen, but I don't think it's totally impossible.
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And the point I am making is no judge is going to take an 11 year old boy away from his family to live with a stranger.
 
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IMO why should Debbie get custody? IMO she wouldn't make a good guardian at all. she sold her kids to Michael for money. said she didn't want to be a mother, that doesn't even know how to be a mother, and that she didn't even want the kids calling her mom. so what's changed? IMO nothing. all she see's is dollar signs. and she craves media attention. she loves getting all that attention.

hell we weren't even suppose to ever know about Debbie. Michael wanted to keep that private. Debbie had other plans though and leaked to the media that she was the mother.
 
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michaeljackson&lisamarie said:
IMO why should Debbie get custody? IMO she wouldn't make a good guardian at all. she sold her kids to Michael for money. said she didn't want to be a mother, that doesn't even know how to be a mother, and that she didn't even want the kids calling her mom. so what's changed? IMO nothing. all she see's is dollar signs. and she craves media attention. she loves getting all that attention.

hell we weren't even suppose to ever know about Debbie. Michael wanted to keep that private. Debbie had other plans though and leaked to the media that she was the mother.
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If Debbie wanted media attention she'd go from talk show to talk show and talk about MJ just like the woman in your username has done.

Debbie is not perfect, but saying she craves media attention is crazy when she has never sought out media attention at all. She could've done interviews, written a book etc about Michael if she wanted media attention or money yet she never has.
She has also always said that if the children ever needed her she would be there for them. Paris has reached out to Debbie and she wants and needs Debbie now and Debbie has stepped up per Paris' request. I do not see how that is wrong at all.

I also do not see what is wrong with Debbie giving Michael the children he wanted. Some people act like Debbie is a horrible person because she had children for someone else sake than her own. People do this all the time! What about egg donors, sperm donors and surrogate mothers who have children for money? Are they all horrible people too because they don't wanna be a parent to the children they put in the world? Debbie did this FOR MICHAEL, she has always made that very clear. She made his biggest dream come true. Like Michael himself said "children grow up without a father all the time and no one says anything about that. But when my children grow up without a mother, to people that is not okay. Why not?" MJ was right about this.

And the reason why Debbie is being suggested as someone who might be a guardian is 1) she IS their mother 2) because there is no one else who will be willing to do it and Debbie is a better choice than the Jacksons in the eyes of many MJ fans.
 
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Debbie can't talk about Michael even if she wanted too
 
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ScaredOfTheMoon said:
If Debbie wanted media attention she'd go from talk show to talk show and talk about MJ just like the woman in your username has done.

Debbie is not perfect, but saying she craves media attention is crazy when she has never sought out media attention at all. She could've done interviews, written a book etc about Michael if she wanted media attention or money yet she never has.
She has also always said that if the children ever needed her she would be there for them. Paris has reached out to Debbie and she wants and needs Debbie now and Debbie has stepped up per Paris' request. I do not see how that is wrong at all.

I also do not see what is wrong with Debbie giving Michael the children he wanted. Some people act like Debbie is a horrible person because she had children for someone else sake than her own. People do this all the time! What about egg donors, sperm donors and surrogate mothers who have children for money? Are they all horrible people too because they don't wanna be a parent to the children they put in the world? Debbie did this FOR MICHAEL, she has always made that very clear. She made his biggest dream come true. Like Michael himself said "children grow up without a father all the time and no one says anything about that. But when my children grow up without a mother, to people that is not okay. Why not?" MJ was right about this.

And the reason why Debbie is being suggested as someone who might be a guardian is 1) she IS their mother 2) because there is no one else who will be willing to do it and Debbie is a better choice than the Jacksons in the eyes of many MJ fans.
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I'm sorry, but we're going to have to agree to disagree. I see straight through Debbie. and yes she loves media attention. as for lisa well I'm not going to get to much into that. I know that's touchy subject for a lot of fans. either you hate her or you like her. I happen to be one who likes her. I truly believe she loved Michael and still does. and same for Michael twords her. she said things about Michael that I didn't like, but I know she did it out of anger and hurt. she regrets it and always will. she did her interview with oprah back in 2010 to get the truth out and set the record straight. she did and haven't done any television interviews about Michael since.

well enough about lisa. I don't trust Debbie and never will. obviously Michael didn't trust her either and saw her for who she truly is. It's all good though. we all want the samething for paris. to be okay and get the love and care that needs.
 
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To be honest I'm glad she's still in the hospital for evaluation. And she needs this to clear things out, anything negative that has surrounded her. At this point it's speculation to what caused this but she had done it before so it's good she didn't get released. As for Debbie, whatever.
 
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agree with serendipity

would a judge split a family of three kids up either. tbh i doubt we would ever get to this stage but at the end of the day i cant imagine blanket wanting to be seperated from his family ie jr and paris. i hope the kids get to be with ever who will love and protect them and who they want to be with

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And the point I am making is no judge is going to take an 11 year old boy away from his family to live with a stranger.
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michaeljackson&lisamarie said:
I'm sorry, but we're going to have to agree to disagree. I see straight through Debbie. and yes she loves media attention. as for lisa well I'm not going to get to much into that. I know that's touchy subject for a lot of fans. either you hate her or you like her. I happen to be one who likes her. I truly believe she loved Michael and still does. and same for Michael twords her. she said things about Michael that I didn't like, but I know she did it out of anger and hurt. she regrets it and always will. she did her interview with oprah back in 2010 to get the truth out and set the record straight. she did and haven't done any television interviews about Michael since.

well enough about lisa. I don't trust Debbie and never will. obviously Michael didn't trust her either and saw her for who she truly is. It's all good though. we all want the samething for paris. to be okay and get the love and care that needs.
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And I see straight through LMP. And the 2010 interview with Oprah she also said MJ was "high as a kite" in the Bashir documentary so as for her getting "the truth" out there imo she only added to the wrongful label of being an addict MJ has gotten since his passing. Her speaking good of MJ now is only because he is dead. If he wasn't dead she'd still claim he manipulated her and blah blah. To me LMP is just as fake as her mother. And I doubt MJ thought very highly of her at the time of his passing.

But yeah back on topic, we all want the same: for Paris and her brothers to be living in a safe place where they are loved for them and not their money. Like I said Debbie isn't perfect, but I doubt she'll put the children in reality shows, sign a contract with them with a porn producer, make them spokespeople for a fake Heal The World foundation, make them promote a Mr. Pink drink, be put on a witness stand so they can rip up all horrifying details about their fathers death and the list goes on. Even if Debbie isn't ideal she's still so much better than the Jacksons. If the kids aren't gonna be with Debbie or the Jacksons then who will they be with? It seems to be their only two choices and to me Debbie is by far the best choice here.
 
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We don't live with those kids so we can only assume Debbie would be better. At this point, everyone is suspect...
 
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ScaredOfTheMoon said:
And I see straight through LMP. And the 2010 interview with Oprah she also said MJ was "high as a kite" in the Bashir documentary so as for her getting "the truth" out there imo she only added to the wrongful label of being an addict MJ has gotten since his passing. Her speaking good of MJ now is only because he is dead. If he wasn't dead she'd still claim he manipulated her and blah blah. To me LMP is just as fake as her mother. And I doubt MJ thought very highly of her at the time of his passing.

But yeah back on topic, we all want the same: for Paris and her brothers to be living in a safe place where they are loved for them and not their money. Like I said Debbie isn't perfect, but I doubt she'll put the children in reality shows, sign a contract with them with a porn producer, make them spokespeople for a fake Heal The World foundation, make them promote a Mr. Pink drink, be put on a witness stand so they can rip up all horrifying details about their fathers death and the list goes on. Even if Debbie isn't ideal she's still so much better than the Jacksons. If the kids aren't gonna be with Debbie or the Jacksons then who will they be with? It seems to be their only two choices and to me Debbie is by far the best choice here.
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oh man I'll never forget that bashir interview. damn I hate that guy so much. alright guys don't kill me, but I think Michael may have been on something during that interview too. this is my opion though. you guys don't have to agree with me. I've watched that interview so many times and I do think lisa may be right. she also said though that, that ashole bashir manipulated the footage to make Michael look bad. and she is so right. bashir tricked Michael and did that whole interview to make him look bad. he twisted everything that Michael said around. I hope one day he gets his.
 
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Latoya is on the Talk right now. I missed the beginning so I don't know if she said anything about Paris. She is a guest co-host.
 
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michaeljackson&lisamarie said:
I'm sorry, but we're going to have to agree to disagree. I see straight through Debbie. and yes she loves media attention. as for lisa well I'm not going to get to much into that. I know that's touchy subject for a lot of fans. either you hate her or you like her. I happen to be one who likes her. I truly believe she loved Michael and still does. and same for Michael twords her. she said things about Michael that I didn't like, but I know she did it out of anger and hurt. she regrets it and always will. she did her interview with oprah back in 2010 to get the truth out and set the record straight. she did and haven't done any television interviews about Michael since.

well enough about lisa. I don't trust Debbie and never will. obviously Michael didn't trust her either and saw her for who she truly is. It's all good though. we all want the samething for paris. to be okay and get the love and care that needs.
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I agree with you about Lisa, but completely disagree with you about Debbie.

Debbie hasn't done anything for anyone to be so overly judgmental towards her. I get some of the criticism, but this over the top stuff, i'm not getting. Out of all things we've seen recently as an MJ fan, how can any fan be so upset over Debbie? And to say she's loves media attention is a joke. She acts nothing like Latoya, who is the definition of someone who loves media attention. A famewhore plots with the media, and I don't see Debbie doing this at all, while I sure as hell do with some of the Jacksons.

The most telling thing about Debbie is, she is one of the few people from MJ's world that I don't at all fear if she were to do a sit down interview. I see her repping hard for our MJ when asked about him. How many other people can you say that about? Just overall, at least with Debbie, you can point out both pros and cons about her. While most folks from MJ's world are just straight up horrible ass people and it's a struggle to point out any good things about them.
 
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marebear said:
Latoya is on the Talk right now. I missed the beginning so I don't know if she said anything about Paris. She is a guest co-host.
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I saw that, but didn't catch the beginning either and was wondering the samething.
 
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AngieJ said:
I agree with you about Lisa, but completely disagree with you about Debbie.

Debbie hasn't done anything for anyone to be so overly judgmental towards her. I get some of the criticism, but this over the top stuff, i'm not getting. Out of all things we've seen recently as an MJ fan, how can any fan be so upset over Debbie? And to say she's loves media attention is a joke. She acts nothing like Latoya, who is the definition of someone who loves media attention. A famewhore plots with the media, and I don't see Debbie doing this at all, while I sure as hell do with some of the Jacksons.

The most telling thing about Debbie is, she is one of the few people from MJ's world that I don't at all fear if she were to do a sit down interview. I see her repping hard for our MJ when asked about him. How many other people can you say that about? Just overall, at least with Debbie, you can point out both pros and cons about her. While most folks from MJ's world are just straight up horrible ass people and it's a struggle to point out any good things about them.
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I respect your opion toward Debbie, but I just don't agree with it. maybe one day i'll change my tune about Debbie, but I doubt it.
 
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Obviously you have tean lisa team debbie team jackson family etc etc. tbh there cant imo be many worse ppl out there who can do a worse job than the family have. the problem is there seems to be very few choices. but frankly imo its getting to a point of anyone seems better than the family.

re lisa ive never seen someone be so two faced and play the victim card as her.ive also never seen someone with such a selective memory disorder as she had (wade beats her now !) when claiming she got away from him asap. forgetting the years after they divorced they spent together around the world. allowing swayer to ask why did u marry that thing with an urgh look on her face.
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
Obviously you have tean lisa team debbie team jackson family etc etc. tbh there cant imo be many worse ppl out there who can do a worse job than the family have. the problem is there seems to be very few choices. but frankly imo its getting to a point of anyone seems better than the family.

re lisa ive never seen someone be so two faced and play the victim card as her.ive also never seen someone with such a selective memory disorder as she had (wade beats her now !) when claiming she got away from him asap. forgetting the years after they divorced they spent together around the world. allowing swayer to ask why did u marry that thing with an urgh look on her face.
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You just summed up perfectly why I dislike the Jackson family and LMP.

You're so right about no one being able to do a worse job than the Jackson family is doing right now, which is why I think Debbie would be a better option for the children even though it may not be 100% ideal. I certainly don't see how she (or anyone else for that matter) can ruin these kids and their lives more than the Jacksons already have.
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
Obviously you have tean lisa team debbie team jackson family etc etc. tbh there cant imo be many worse ppl out there who can do a worse job than the family have. the problem is there seems to be very few choices. but frankly imo its getting to a point of anyone seems better than the family.

re lisa ive never seen someone be so two faced and play the victim card as her.ive also never seen someone with such a selective memory disorder as she had (wade beats her now !) when claiming she got away from him asap. forgetting the years after they divorced they spent together around the world. allowing swayer to ask why did u marry that thing with an urgh look on her face.
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wait for me it has NOTHING to do with team lisa, team Jackson. I'm team paris and I just don't think Debbie would be a good guardian. It has nothing to do with me liking lisa and not liking Debbie. I'm just being honest and saying how I feel. I don't think Debbie would be a good guardian. and it has NOTHING to do with how I feel about lisa.
 
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I will say though I do believe Debbie loved Michael in her own way. I mean how can you not love him?lol. that doesn't mean I think she would be a good guardian for his kids though.
 
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Really?
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Yes, really. Out of all the things to be mad at the world about, not being able to attend a concert is not one of them, especially when it comes to the Jackson's. Are you going to tell me that's all that's going on with this family currently, a concert is the most of her problems, sorry, but I don't believe that. And as I said countless times, which a lot of you tend to seem to leave out, is that that story most likely isn't true. As I've said the very first time, she probably was bullied, and that's what drives her depression, that's what drove her to do what she did. Not simply being told "no, you can't go to this concert". Funny how everyone is attacking me with this "you don't know her personally", when the fact is, none of us do. So what exactly is the difference? Excuse me for not seeing the sense in flipping out over being denied not being able to attend a metal concert. Excuse me for not even believing the story or continuing to entertain that aspect of TMZ's report like some of you.
 
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Seven said:
Ask any school if there is bullying and they will say no. They are all liars, bullying goes on in every school but they do nothing about it.
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Which is why I said in the rest of that post you've quoted, that it's probable she was being bullied in school. She's getting bothered by comments people leave on social network sites. So there's no doubt in my mind that she's going through the same thing in school. Please, don't single out one part of a post and try to pick out that part as if I disagree with what you're saying, because I don't. Quote the whole thing.
 
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WhoIsIt89 said:
Yes, really. Out of all the things to be mad at the world about, not being able to attend a concert is not one of them, especially when it comes to the Jackson's. Are you going to tell me that's all that's going on with this family currently, a concert is the most of her problems, sorry, but I don't believe that. And as I said countless times, which a lot of you tend to seem to leave out, is that that story most likely isn't true. As I've said the very first time, she probably was bullied, and that's what drives her depression, that's what drove her to do what she did. Not simply being told "no, you can't go to this concert". Funny how everyone is attacking me with this "you don't know her personally", when the fact is, none of us do. So what exactly is the difference? Excuse me for not seeing the sense in flipping out over being denied not being able to attend a metal concert. Excuse me for not even believing the story or continuing to entertain that aspect of TMZ's report like some of you.
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Let me quote what I actually replied to with asking "really?" It wasn't about the concert (and BTW if you don't believe that concert story then I don't know why you keep bringing that up and harping on it):

Something we tend to call in America, "parenting". Telling a kid there are more things in life to be upset over, like all the crap newspapers print about your father, so to let that go, is parenting.
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