Re: Paris Jackson Possible Suicide Attempt Rushed to Hospital SHE IS OK
Ahsoka I understand you, but you are talking about the kids at the ages they were when Michael died. I was speculating on a time when the masks are removed. I don't know what age he decided to do so, but you can bet that a 16 + child will not be going out in a mask. Certainly Michael will not have his children wearing masks for ever. I just found out in the AEG thread that Michael had his own rehab done in a house with his dr. He did not want the publicity and paps in his business. Now what do you think Michael would do with Paris with this suicidal situation? I will bet my last dollar that it would also be a private, in house treatment.
About family therapy^^: That is a good thing, but as we said before, is the family willing to change or implement what is learned? Some people are not good candidates for therapy. They have their mind set against it. Some people attend the sessions, but when they go home it is another thing.
Dri on the stand in the AEG trial, one of the 3T's said that the disagreement was because Grace wanted to continue the child rearing principles that Michael had put in place, e.g., how many times a week for TV, while Rebbie and some in the family disagreed, so Grace was let go.
Myotosis about your point: I think the issues are probably largely generational and I would not expect someone of eighty plus to be very open to changing their mind about what is 'good' or 'not good' for children, in terms of bringing them up. /I]
I get what you are saying but it is more than being 80+, because she had the same way of thinking long before she was 80 based on the way she dealt with Joe and used Michael for the family. I don't think this behavior has anything to do with generation or because she comes from people born in the 1900s. I have heard 70+ year old women say "those are old time ways." One grandmother told me she told her grandchildren not to say "Ma'am and Sir" when she took them to the South in the US. She said the people there feel children have to say ma'am and sir as a form of respect, but since she has been up North for decades (New York) she does not believe in that and calls it old fashion. So the problem with Katherine is beyond generation and more to do with a pattern of behavior that was used and found to work, so the behavior was used over and over again.
I have been to workshops where people in their 60s and 70s are there to learn how to deal with their grandchildren with behavioral problems or how to deal with their grandchildren who are different from when they themselves were young. This means that age does not necessarily stop the learning process. To expand on Victory's point the elderly can change. Look at how many elderly people we see in the bus, train, restaurants, etc., with Ipads, cell phones tweeting or texting, or with lap tops. They are embracing new technologies and learning about it, even though some can't be bothered. Therefore, 80+ Katherine can change if she wants to. The thing is she does not want to. She made the comment that she did not understand the kids today, and left it at that. However, once you have youngsters in your care you need to learn to understand them, and as a retiree you have a lot of time on your hands to do that learning and understanding--unless you decide to spend your time in courtroom.
Next, My mom is 86 and her parents were born in the 1900's too. Growing up I have no recollection of any of my friends or people we knew having to work and being used in the way Michael was. Therefore, this problem is more than generation. Otherwise all people born in the 1900s who had children of Katherine's age in the 1940's, would have been doing the same thing they did.
Hopefully Debbie will be very different.