HIStory
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How am I bringing in MJ's PRIVATE life by referring to a PUBLIC video/performance--a concert that was broadcast on TV?? OMG.
How am I becoming one of the critics who can't see him as sexy with a woman??
This is nuts.
I am expressing what I don't see so much in the ITC but that does not mean he was not capable of being sexy with or without a female onstage in public. In TWYMMF he runs after a hot babe on stage, scantily clad, etc--and it is hot, yes, but I don't need that to know that MJ is hot--he is hot without that other female strutting around on stage. I think the chemistry in the video w. Tatiana was better than with Noami--but I guess saying that is going to cause another claim thst I am an MJ hater or getting close to one--LOL.
This is getting way too personal and an attack on me, which is totally uncalled for and inappropriate.
I merely questioned--ages ago--the claim by Fast that MJ reached a sexualized adult hotness in Dangerous b/c IMO he showed that before. Get it????
Sigh.
Saying that IMO you are mixing his private life in the discussion is a "personal attack on you"? :smilerolleyes:
My point is that of course, there will going to be more chemistry with someone who he was really in love with than with someone who he wasn't. But didn't we go astray a bit with the whole discussion about chemistry with this or that woman? Because Fast's point is not about with whom MJ had more chemistry. It's about which one of his performances were more sexualized.
To me it was interesting that you went back to that performance with Diana and did not compare ITC to his other videos and performances in video where he was with other female partners. Upside Down has a somewhat unfair advantage over his other performances with women since he was in love with Diana (that's the bringing his private life into it in my view).
At least now you named TWYMMF as being more credible and having more chemistry to you than ITC. Which is interesting because the things you have criticized in ITC (MJ and Naomi not dancing with each other, Naomi not being a great dancer, not touching each other etc) are there in TWYMMF as well - actually even more so than in ITC. In fact MJ was often criticized for the video being "anti-climax" when they only hug at the end. I do not agree with that criticism and I think MJ had chemistry with Tatiana as well, but I cannot see it as more chemistry than with Naomi. But that's a subjective judgement and again the whole chemistry thing is a bit of a moot point. Fast's point was about sexualized performances, not chemistry.
I understand that you are trying to say that MJ reached sexualized adult hotness before Dangerous and that was your point, but you were the one who brought in a spontaneous 10 second performance with Diana Ross on stage in support of that. And that's IMO is crossing over to MJ's private life because the reason why that scene had such great chemistry is because MJ was really in love with Diana. (And again: it had chemistry, but it was not a sexualized performance. There's a difference!) I think it would have been more fair if we compare his performance with Naomi to those of with Ola Ray or Tatiana. And to me he is more sexualized and daring in ITC than he has ever been before with other female partners in his videos.
Need I say more? When did he ever go this far before?
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