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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Gluepix said:
How do you know Saturday Woman has incomplete vocals? The only reliable info available about the song comes from Frank Cascio, who briefly mentioned it on his book “My Friend Michael”. Damien Shields recently confirmed on his Twitter that he’s never listened to it, so that info about it having incomplete vocals couldn’t have originated from him.
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"Frank Cascio" and "reliable" should not be used in the same sentence unless you are saying "Frank Cascio is not reliable"
 
Clay7 said:
"Frank Cascio" and "reliable" should not be used in the same sentence unless you are saying "Frank Cascio is not reliable"
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Ironically enough he seems reliable when it comes to that part, he said that Chicago 1945 was about a girl who went missing and Turnin' Me Off was considered for Dangerous and nowadays we know both are true.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Ironically enough he seems reliable when it comes to that part, he said that Chicago 1945 was about a girl who went missing and Turnin' Me Off was considered for Dangerous and nowadays we know both are true.
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Yeah he has been right about some things but problem is its difficult to sift through the bullshit lol
 
ChanceToDance said:
Frank Cascio said on his book that parts of the verses are mumbled, so it isn't vocally complete.
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This is a direct quote from his book:
The first verse went : “I don’t want to say that I don’t love you/I don’t want to say that I disagree…” then Michael mumbled the rest of the lines because he wasn’t sure of them yet.
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Frank strongly implies that Michael worked on it further, and this is supported by the fact that the song title was found in a note (not yet publicly available) in Michael’s bedroom shortly after his death. I think it’s best to leave the song’s completion status as “unclear”, since so little is known about it.
 
Also, you'd be thinking of Eddie Cascio when it comes to the true liar in the family. Frank's mostly-accurate as far as his testimony goes.
 
Clay7 said:
"Frank Cascio" and "reliable" should not be used in the same sentence unless you are saying "Frank Cascio is not reliable"
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Because he got paid because Branca and some ol' Sony Heads was stupid? If anything, someone who can facilitate all that and get away with it probably knows exactly what he's doing. He should be working for the Pentagon at this point.
 
Btw, are the snippets of Saturday Woman circulating online legit? I personally think most of them are fake, with the exception of one in which you can clearly hear Michael saying “she’s a Saturday woman”.
 
Gluepix said:
Btw, are the snippets of Saturday Woman circulating online legit? I personally think most of them are fake, with the exception of one in which you can clearly hear Michael saying “She’s a Saturday woman”.
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Fakey
 
Here’s the snippet in question, and it’s the only one which isn’t in dogshit quality:
 
Gluepix said:
This is a direct quote from his book:

Frank strongly implies that Michael worked on it further, and this is supported by the fact that the song title was found in a note (not yet publicly available) in Michael’s bedroom shortly after his death. I think it’s best to leave the song’s completion status as “unclear”, since so little is known about it.
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When MJ recorded Hollywood Tonight he wasn't sure of the third verse/bridge lyrics yet, but even though he wrote them eventually he still never recorded them. He also planned to work on the song in London but the verse and the bridge still went unrecorded. I agree that the status for now is unknown but at least we know for certain that the version from Dangerous is vocally incomplete.
 
Available information about the 'Saturday Woman' unreleased song comes also from the Vera Serova versus Sony Music and The Estate of Michael Jackson lawsuit (in 2014).

Frank Cascio also described it (in his book) as an unreleased song, which suggests that the song exists in a releasable state (despite being with certain incomplete vocals).

Note that the song can be found also as 'Saturday Night Woman', or simply as 'Saturday' (these are alternative titles of the song).
 
Gluepix said:
Btw, are the snippets of Saturday Woman circulating online legit? I personally think most of them are fake, with the exception of one in which you can clearly hear Michael saying “she’s a Saturday woman”.
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Fake
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Because he got paid because Branca and some ol' Sony Heads was stupid? If anything, someone who can facilitate all that and get away with it probably knows exactly what he's doing. He should be working for the Pentagon at this point.
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no hes sold fake items before claiming them to be mj songs such as "La Mia" which was some weird trash thing with two impersonators on it
 
mj_frenzy said:
Available information about the 'Saturday Woman' unreleased song comes also from the Vera Serova versus Sony Music and The Estate of Michael Jackson lawsuit (in 2014).

Frank Cascio also described it (in his book) as an unreleased song, which suggests that the song exists in a releasable state of completion (despite being with certain incomplete vocals).

Note that the song can be found also as 'Saturday Night Woman', or simply as 'Saturday' (these are alternatives titles).
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If I’m thinking of the same portion of the lawsuit, they literally just pulled data from the Wikipedia page. There’s tons of false info in there.
 
What about Angel? I keep seeing claims that Babyface described the song as being “simply fantastic” during an interview, but they never back them up with sources lol.
 
Clay7 said:
no hes sold fake items before claiming them to be mj songs such as "La Mia" which was some weird trash thing with two impersonators on it
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Didn’t “La Mia” supposedly feature Pavarotti? Or was it a cover of Pavarotti’s “La Mia Canzone al Vento”?
 
AlwaysThere said:
It doesn’t exist. The only source to ever claim that is a fan magazine, and apparently after the fact they said they were duped.
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In that case, it should be removed from the “List of unreleased songs recorded by Michael Jackson” Wikipedia article, at least until verifiable evidence for its existence is provided.
 
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