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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Fuzball said:
I know about the laptop theft. You say Brad "doesn't leak" but Brad IS the leak. This is the leak I am interested in.
Does he play rarities from Bruce or Teddy's locker?
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So it's kind of ironic a thief stole from a thief.
 
Derek1984 said:
Loren is not off. Both are not the same. MJ recorded a song called Deep In The Night in 1990. Loren had no clue about that song. The song Loren wrote for Invincible was pure coincidence it had the same name.

As for the Invincible song that Loren wrote, I don't think he could confirm that was ever recorded by MJ.
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Hmm a coincidence..? A title like that..?
 
It’s hilarious to me that the fan community is understandably desperate for info and sprawling to hear from MJ’s collaborators, but the few times Bryan Loren has said something our collective reaction has been “yeah yeah yeah pipe down” lmao
 
AlwaysThere said:
It’s hilarious to me that the fan community is understandably desperate for info and sprawling to hear from MJ’s collaborators, but the few times Bryan Loren has said something our collective reaction has been “yeah yeah yeah pipe down” lmao
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Yeah, I think it's probably because people don't find him to be trustworthy (with good reason). He also comes across as an asshole whenever he does speak, so of course people are less interested in what he has to say.
 
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AlwaysThere said:
It’s hilarious to me that the fan community is understandably desperate for info and sprawling to hear from MJ’s collaborators, but the few times Bryan Loren has said something our collective reaction has been “yeah yeah yeah pipe down” lmao
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Satisfy You might be Loren's greatest track. The MJ vocals on the chorus sound so good... So is there an MJ version?
 
AlwaysThere said:
It’s hilarious to me that the fan community is understandably desperate for info and sprawling to hear from MJ’s collaborators, but the few times Bryan Loren has said something our collective reaction has been “yeah yeah yeah pipe down” lmao
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Flirting vs Harassment lol
 
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BlackAnon said:
At the request of Bruce and Michael I feel. Brad didn’t have access to Hayvenhurst so he had to get the keys from someone but Bills feelings are still valid.
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I can understand where his bitterness is coming from. Brad took EVERYTHING off Hayvenhurst, not only multitrack tapes and reels with stereo mixes (which he was tasked to do so) but he also took Bill's personal stuff (DAT tapes & cassettes).

Now when the community is asking Bill about songs, all he can rely to are his memories and notes. Had he been still in possesion of his copies, he surely could response with spot on details.
 
Fuzball said:
I can understand where his bitterness is coming from. Brad took EVERYTHING off Hayvenhurst, not only multitrack tapes and reels with stereo mixes (which he was tasked to do so) but he also took Bill's personal stuff (DAT tapes & cassettes).

Now when the community is asking Bill about songs, all he can rely to are his memories and notes. Had he been still in possesion of his copies, he surely could response with spot on details.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think Brad has everything that Bill worked on. To my knowledge, Brad has never played anything like Tomboy, Make or Break, etc. at his seminars.
 
Derek1984 said:
I could be wrong, but I don't think Brad has everything that Bill worked on. To my knowledge, Brad has never played anything like Tomboy, Make or Break, etc. at his seminars.
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Inthestudiowithmj said:
He could still have them potentially, just hasn’t played them
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Okay what exactly did Brad take from Bill? The songs that he plays at the seminars?

If he had Tomboy and Make or Break, wouldn't we have gotten those from the files?

I don't recall John mentioning Bill on MOB
 
So did Bill ever talk about Messin' Round..? Can someone with Twitter ask him if there is a further developed version than the ones we know?
 
Fuzball said:
I can understand where his bitterness is coming from. Brad took EVERYTHING off Hayvenhurst, not only multitrack tapes and reels with stereo mixes (which he was tasked to do so) but he also took Bill's personal stuff (DAT tapes & cassettes).

Now when the community is asking Bill about songs, all he can rely to are his memories and notes. Had he been still in possesion of his copies, he surely could response with spot on details.
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I don't think Bill usually made copies of songs for himself from the MJ sessions... Or at least stuff he worked on when Michael was in the room with him during Bad. That it was supposedly part of the "rules" Michael set.

Pretty confident I read this from Bill's posts on Gearspace, but this should be somewhere on the net.
 
Victorious said:
So did Bill ever talk about Messin' Round..? Can someone with Twitter ask him if there is a further developed version than the ones we know?
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Also about Someone Put Your Hand Out! That one did not appear in his calendars, so I wonder if he got to work on it
 
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