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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Bill Bottrell on Planet Earth (aka Earth Song):

It was to be the intro. MJ thought he might need it for a long-form or any other use. Like live shows.
It started with an orchestra written by George Del Barrio.
Then during History, MJ took out the orch and just did the poem.
 
Fuzball said:
Bill Bottrell on Planet Earth (aka Earth Song):

It was to be the intro. MJ thought he might need it for a long-form or any other use. Like live shows.
It started with an orchestra written by George Del Barrio.
Then during History, MJ took out the orch and just did the poem.
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I'd love to hear the orchestra then.
 
Fuzball said:
Bill Bottrell:

MJ had me working on Brian's Serious Effect. Looking at my journals apparently I spent much time on it.
Was it ever released?
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It's actually wild he doesn't know if his own material was ever released.
 
It would be interesting to hear from Bill why "If you don't love me" mix sounds so different from the sessions leak to the mastered version that was supposed to come out with the Dangerous Special Edition in 2001.
 
Fuzball said:
Bill Bottrell on Planet Earth (aka Earth Song):

It was to be the intro. MJ thought he might need it for a long-form or any other use. Like live shows.
It started with an orchestra written by George Del Barrio.
Then during History, MJ took out the orch and just did the poem.
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Is he saying MJ recorded the poem we have during the HIStory sessions and not the Dangerous ones?
 
Yes but if you look at the Bill Bottrell quote above he says: "Then during History, MJ took out the orch and just did the poem."
So does that mean MJ re-recorded the poem?
 
↑↑↑ This is what the artists who made music for MJ (songs of which he never got the opportunity to record) should do, or at least give them away for other vocalists to record. Like I said pages ago; some of those writer's demos have potential, they're great to listen to. It's a waste that they're forced to be obscured indefinitely. I wish Ne-Yo would go ahead and release the songs he made for Michael as well.
 
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ChanceToDance said:
↑↑↑ This is what the artists who made music for MJ (songs of which he never got the opportunity to record) should do, or at least give them away for other vocalists to record. Like I said pages ago; some of those writer's demos have potential, they're great to listen to. It's a waste that they're forced to be obscured indefinitely. I wish Ne-Yo would go ahead and release the songs he made for Michael as well.
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I agree, though I highly prefer prudence with the people they choose. I don’t wanna hear Chris Brown, for example, singing any of those songs.
 
I recall speculation that there could be a more complete version of The Verdict than the leaked one. Did any more info come of that or was it just baseless speculation?
 
SmoothGangsta said:
I recall speculation that there could be a more complete version of The Verdict than the leaked one. Did any more info come of that or was it just baseless speculation?
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Likely baseless assumption. The most the Dangerous-era version got was BGs done under the supervision of Teddy Riley, and it's highly possible the HIStory-era version remained an unrecorded groove.
 
SeriousFX said:
Likely baseless assumption. The most the Dangerous-era version got was BGs done under the supervision of Teddy Riley, and it's highly possible the HIStory-era version remained an unrecorded groove.
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Was it ever confirmed that the BGs were recorded? If you’re referencing the handwritten list of song titles, could it be possible that he was noting that the BGs still had to be recorded, not that they already were?
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
Bill's journals must give such an insight into the creative process that goes into making these records. I love how we're finding new information from them
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It wouldn't surprise me if his notes for Victory or Dangerous sessions would reveal more songs that were mentioned in the 1993 deposition tapes.
 
He's been very generous with his time and effort, I hope he knows how much we appreciate it. I love that it's as close to definitive as we're probably going to get on unreleased material

Slightly off topic, but I'd love either more of the 93 deposition or the 1989 deposition that is referenced to leak. It's fascinating to have insight from Michael himself about his work. I'm still annoyed at how little he was asked about his work.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
Bill's journals must give such an insight into the creative process that goes into making these records. I love how we're finding new information from them
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Bill is very accurate when he refers to his journals.

Bill is not very accurate when referring to his memory.

That's not a critique; that's just an inevitability of someone who's live such a wonderful and successful life.
 
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