The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Only one session with him for BB, I wonder if there's a more complete version. John also said the vocals were incomplete with the possibility of more reference vocals on the master tape
Pretty sure John said the song was started at Soundcastle? Bill was staff engineer there.
 
Pretty sure John said the song was started at Soundcastle? Bill was staff engineer there.
From that session probably not but John said the song was held off for inclusion on Bad. I'd have to try and get in touch with his estate to get more information.
 
Im a loser and i was loser there is any différence i mean more vocals or something ??
 
Snippets of I was the loser, a bit more of changes (verse stuff) & a good chance of a bit of world of candy. There’s a chance of a few other songs too, such as a version of Xscape featuring lil Wayne, a few writers demos, and some other stuff.
Meant to also mention possible snippets of Michael’s affirmation & some slow song Michael did in a phone call with production over it.
If I was the collector I'd honestly just create a burner account and post those snippets at once and get it over with since it'll clearly be a matter of time until they get out, wouldn't let some kids seek clout or make bank off my stolen collection. I recommend that they go ahead and do just that lol
 
If I was the collector I'd honestly just create a burner account and post those snippets at once and get it over with since it'll clearly be a matter of time until they get out, wouldn't let some kids seek clout or make bank off my stolen collection. I recommend that they go ahead and do just that lol
That's pretty much what I did the one and only time I was given access to an unreleased song. Went straight onto Bittorrent.
 
Since uneducated children keep bringing it up, I hope everyone knows I was so adamant on MIB being fake because some idiots decided to leak it first with ai vocals on top, along with it being the only Bryan Loren leak to never be transferred to a single tape before its release to the public.

I think anyone would be right to be extremely suspicious of it being fake with those two issues.
 
Since uneducated children keep bringing it up, I hope everyone knows I was so adamant on MIB being fake because some idiots decided to leak it first with ai vocals on top, along with it being the only Bryan Loren leak to never be transferred to a single tape before its release to the public.

I think anyone would be right to be extremely suspicious of it being fake with those two issues.
Indeed. I had my doubts hearing those first snippets. Grainy instruments that sounded AI extracted from the seminar recording… and those AI vocals that never were on the song in the first place. Red flags indeed.

But sure enough, once I heard the full song I was very convinced it was real. None of those AI alterations on the snippets were there. Plus, it matched the seminar recording too.
So I’m 90% convinced.
Would have been 100 if it were not for those doctored snippets shared by an unreliable source (the catfish producer) and if I knew the provenance…

Has Damien Shields given his thoughts on the authenticity of the MIB leak?
 
Makes me wonder why the RedOne track wasn’t released on Michael. He’s said there’s lots of ideas but one is releasable, it would just take a guest artist to fill out the missing parts. Why didn’t they get Lady Gaga on it, she was working with RedOne and MJ himself wanted her to open this is it. If the track is even remotely releasable, it would’ve done huge numbers as a single in 2010.
Michael may've wanted to have her perform at the show, but considering he didn't personally know her, I doubt he would've invited her to appear as a guest vocalist on the RedOne track.

Any track produced by RedOne between 2008 and 2010 could've been big if released as a single, but part of me is kinda glad that those tracks never came out because his other productions have aged poorly and sound dated now imho.
 
Since uneducated children keep bringing it up, I hope everyone knows I was so adamant on MIB being fake because some idiots decided to leak it first with ai vocals on top, along with it being the only Bryan Loren leak to never be transferred to a single tape before its release to the public.

I think anyone would be right to be extremely suspicious of it being fake with those two issues.
A lot of people on here did not believe it was real for the longest time for exactly the reason you described lol.
 
Since uneducated children keep bringing it up, I hope everyone knows I was so adamant on MIB being fake because some idiots decided to leak it first with ai vocals on top, along with it being the only Bryan Loren leak to never be transferred to a single tape before its release to the public.

I think anyone would be right to be extremely suspicious of it being fake with those two issues.
I still can’t believe it’s real lmao. I don’t blame you at all for the skepticism.
 

Yeah i do have the contact i lost respect for this community because they always talking down to the people and i understand why gatekeeping don't want to leak stuff because some of you are dissrespectfull and talk trash sometimes you want songs then learn it how to get it nothing is for free now we are not in 2009 anymore when songs gets leaked due to hacking now we are in 2025 and is hard to get access to certain asset that how it works we are in the world when streaming is dominate over the CD ERA i always want pepole to work together and to collaborate to get stuff not to fight and gets angry for something that get leaked just because they paid 50k or something for a godamm song i will always respect and admire the creativity of the late and great Michael Jackson so because of this crap i will take some time off just so pepole understand that this community is becoming a shell of his former self

Goodluck Moonwalkers you going to need it :)
You act like you went in the studio & made ts yourself... im not understanding nothing u mean because who tf are u to gatekeep his music like u contributed to doing something? Tf be wrong with yall!?
 
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