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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Fuzball said:
According to Shana, verse lyrics to "Family Thing":

''Squeeze the trigger til' I'm dead,
The blood is running good and red,
And the pain is quite enormous,
Also I wouldn't be human if I laid here and ignored this,
But I'm hard as nails.''
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A version exists with these vocals?
 
SeriousFX said:
hello, it do be me
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Also 1 more question,

For the “Lying to Myself” [V1] entry in the dangerous section of the chart, it says that snippets of the song can be heard in The Detail’s retrospective video, but I can’t seem to find where in the video it can be heard, do you know when is the timestamp when it can be heard?
 
threepea11 said:
Also 1 more question,

For the “Lying to Myself” [V1] entry in the dangerous section of the chart, it says that snippets of the song can be heard in The Detail’s retrospective video, but I can’t seem to find where in the video it can be heard, do you know when is the timestamp when it can be heard?
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I'll go and check to make sure.
 
Clay7 said:
Yeah np! Theres a tonn of fake/wrong information on your tracker, not to be overly critical. I actually was working on my own but didn't make it public.
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Can you let me know so I can improve it?
 
Clay7 said:
Yeah np! Theres a tonn of fake/wrong information on your tracker, not to be overly critical. I actually was working on my own but didn't make it public.
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hey check dm
 
Jacksonunreleased said:
@Fuzzball if you think that i am Tyler you re ****** moron you are the worst piece of shit ever ! Second i only have one account and that this one !
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Tyler446 said:
listen yall can look into my account all you want. because i'm not him. and y'know what you can add me on discord to prove it.
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Fuzball said:
same attitude, same intention, same vocabulary
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Yeah..... this is definitely one person 🤣🤣
Stevie Wonder & Ray Charles' eyes combined together can see this is the same person. Smh way too much time on 1 person's hand for sure!
 
Saka21 said:
I'm beginning to realize that a huge part of the fun is predicting and imagining what these tracks could sound like.

Take "Water," described by insiders (Trevis) as a masterpiece and one of the most unique pieces MJ ever made. It makes you wonder: What could it possibly sound like? What kind of stuff was MJ experimenting with at that time? Could he have revolutionized pop music again if the sounds he was creating were released to the world instead of hidden in the vault?

So many titles we consider holy grails just sound cool af. A name like "Crack Kills" makes you assume it's a dark track, perhaps with a mid 80s rap feel. Then a snippet leaked, and if it's authentic, it sounds nothing like what I thought, lol.

I remember thinking "Deep In The Night" would have a cinematic, "Smooth Criminal"-esque vibe, smooth atmosphere, but it turned out what it is. The same goes for "Chicago 1945", everyone and their moms expected a moody piece, but it ended up being a lost sister to "Billie Jean".

In a way, perhaps some of these tracks are better off staying unleaked. Once you hear them you can only say, "Oh, so that's what it sounds like", and the track you've been imagining for years is never the same again.
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Don't make me give up my hopes for "Michael Mckellar, Buffalo Bill & Lucy is in love with linus" lol i still have a great feeling/ potential about those 3!!
 
threepea11 said:
Also I remember that people used to say that the version of PoF released on B25 wasn't the final version, and that there is a more developed one that's still unheard, anyone know anything about this?
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Yes. I have a higher quality snippet of it. I wanna hear this version so badly. I have to find it on my hard drive but I know for sure I have it. The beat sounds a little more flavorful but I haven't heard the final product. Not sure why they don't give us the finished versions of certain songs. I've heard it was three different pyt's but I've only heard Michael's & Ingram's versions. Not Quincys
Fuzball said:
Bill Bottrell:

"Do You Know" had vocals but I didn't think it was coming together.
I don't think Crack Kills had vocals
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& so the version that just leaked is fake then?
 
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I wonder what song that was. I took this screenshot years ago in the old ITSWMJ thread
 
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