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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

I don't know exactly what gives me this impression but most of those titles sound like ballads tbh, back when T40 came out I was a bit let down that all the new songs were ballads so I'm hoping there's at least one song here that's something more upbeat, outside of "Hot Street" of course.

I find it kinda surreal that "Hot Street" is even being recognized in the biopic, back when T40 came out I remember being fine with the song not ending up on the album so it could've been saved for a proper release, but if you told me back then they were saving it for the biopic my mind would have been so blown lol.
 
My best guess would be they're just titles of interludes like "Light Man" or "The Thrill". All of them leading over to his actual songs with new stage scenery.
 
I really wonder if Midas and Paradise are real songs or not, they sound interesting. If they are indeed real, they help fill the 30 songs recorded for Thriller list

Released:
Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
Baby Be Mine
The Girl Is Mine
Thriller
Beat It
Billie Jean
Human Nature
PYT
The Lady In My Life

Unreleased (Later Released):
The Toy
Who Do You Know
Carousel
Got The Hots
She's Trouble
Behind The Mask (Demo)

Unreleased (Leaked & Unheard with Vocals):
Hot Street
Nite Line
Don't Be Messin' 'Round
Rolling The Dice
Nymphette Lover
Spice of Life
Learned My Lesson
Odesa*
Paradise*
Out of the Dark*
Midas*

Unreleased (Unconfirmed if contains Vocals)
Mystery
Attitude
Stand Tall
MJ Melody
Where Is Love?

Miscellaneous:
Behind The Mask (V2)
PYT (Demo)
 
Don't get too much hyped over those "new" song titles. These could have been simply made up fictitious titles - except Hot Street.

Seems like they're gonna show how the album initially did sound doo-doo; Q getting rid of one song (HS) & mixing everything again from scratch.
 
ChanceToDance said:
I don't know exactly what gives me this impression but most of those titles sound like ballads tbh, back when T40 came out I was a bit let down that all the new songs were ballads so I'm hoping there's at least one song here that's something more upbeat, outside of "Hot Street" of course.

I find it kinda surreal that "Hot Street" is even being recognized in the biopic, back when T40 came out I remember being fine with the song not ending up on the album so it could've been saved for a proper release, but if you told me back then they were saving it for the biopic my mind would have been so blown lol.
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I doubt it will be in the film, probably just a note on the wall as seen and mentioned when trying to figure out the track list
 
Fuzball said:
Don't get too much hyped over those "new" song titles. These could have been simply made up fictitious titles - except Hot Street.

Seems like they're gonna show how the album initially did sound doo-doo; Q getting rid of one song (HS) & mixing everything again from scratch.
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I mean, if they showed Hot Street, then why would they lie with the other unknown ones?

Also I'm really happy that they didn't put Hot Street onto Thriller 40 now lol. I bet we're in for a treat in terms of Unreleased material when the film releases
 
Fuzball said:
Don't get too much hyped over those "new" song titles. These could have been simply made up fictitious titles - except Hot Street.

Seems like they're gonna show how the album initially did sound doo-doo; Q getting rid of one song (HS) & mixing everything again from scratch.
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They showed Hot Street which we know is legit, so why would they make up those other titles lol?
 
Is Midas really a song? In fact, Midas was a king, just like Michael, around whom myths still surround today.
And one more thing they had in common: everything they both touched turned to gold.
Midas (/ˈmaɪdəs/; Ancient Greek: Μίδας) was a king of Phrygia with whom many myths became associated, as well as two later members of the Phrygian royal house.
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His father was Gordias, and his mother was Cybele. The most famous King Midas is popularly remembered in Greek mythology for his ability to turn everything he touched into pure gold
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Fuzball said:
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"deep dive into some of the early versions of songs he [Matt Forger] worked on with Michael"

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This is impeccable timing, whoever goes to that seminar should ask Matt Forger about those new titles to see if they're real songs or if they're working titles of songs we've already heard and what-not.
 
threepea11 said:
I really wonder if Midas and Paradise are real songs or not, they sound interesting. If they are indeed real, they help fill the 30 songs recorded for Thriller list

Released:
Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
Baby Be Mine
The Girl Is Mine
Thriller
Beat It
Billie Jean
Human Nature
PYT
The Lady In My Life

Unreleased (Later Released):
The Toy
Who Do You Know
Carousel
Got The Hots
She's Trouble
Behind The Mask (Demo)

Unreleased (Leaked & Unheard with Vocals):
Hot Street
Nite Line
Don't Be Messin' 'Round
Rolling The Dice
Nymphette Lover
Spice of Life
Learned My Lesson
Odesa*
Paradise*
Out of the Dark*
Midas*

Unreleased (Unconfirmed if contains Vocals)
Mystery
Attitude
Stand Tall
MJ Melody
Where Is Love?

Miscellaneous:
Behind The Mask (V2)
PYT (Demo)
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Total odd ball idea here but is it possible these are retitled songs? Paradise for example made me think of Neverland Landing which would be an understandable name change. I would be extremely surprised if these are actual songs intended for the Thriller album with full vocals that will be used during the movie that we have never heard of considering how unlikely that is. We probably know of like 95% of the songs w vocals that are left as far as titles. The fact "Hot Street" also appears though gives me some hope.
 
Victorious said:
It's very possible that The Estate knew ther would be a biopic eventually (even before MJ died), so maybe they saved the best demo's for now...
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2010 = they barely catalogued anything and were short on tracks from his later years
2012 = most complete tracks for inclusion were chosen, Wembley only venue to have multitracks, VHS only, U-matic tape and films found after release
2014 = LA Reid wanted the album, not the estate
2015 = Off The Wall 2015 project cancelled incl unreleased demos and remixes/features
2016 = Journey From Motown To Off The Wall releases, previously part of the cancelled 2015 project
2017 = Compilation and Thriller 3D release
2018 = Home media release cancelled
2019 or 2020 = HIStory Medley in HD was screened at MJ One
2022 = Thriller 40 album, demanded by Sony iirc, documentary postponed due to no streaming service found (the exact same version screened in 2022 is the one that released)
2023 = Thriller 40 documentary, cheaply produced, due to the estate cheaping out since they didn't wanna do it in the first place iirc
 
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