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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Does anyone know, if MJ did recorded a demo of You’re the one that was presented to Jennifer Holliday? I love that song so much!
 
rbn said:
Does anyone know, if MJ did recorded a demo of You’re the one that was presented to Jennifer Holliday? I love that song so much!
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MJ sang most of the songs he gave to other artists. Unfortunately we don't have any confirmation for this song, which I also really like.
 
Beano Wild said:
im sorry but im getting genuinely fed up of frenzy, can we not just ban him for misinfo like lmfao
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Hes been doing it for years. It seems spreading misinformation is not a valid reason for the forum mods to ban or give a timeout to users.
 
Do we have any information about „Rise Above It All“? Did he laid down vocals for this song?

Thats apparently a outtake from the sessions with Dr. Freeze.
 
mjfan_93 said:
Did he laid down vocals for this song?
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Probably not, A Place With No Name, Blue Gangsta and Break of Dawn were the songs that took priority in the sessions and seeing how MJ never recorded Jungle City that makes it even less likely that he recorded Rise Above It All.
 
Lotfi11k said:
According to MJBeats, the songs recently registered with ASCAP are:

Kreeton Overture
Be Me 4 A Day
Man In Black
Descending Angels
Endt It
I Have This Dream
Promise
Remember This Night
Seven Digits
Shut Up And Dance
Slipped Away
Stay
Verdict
You’re The One.

What u think about those
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Check my previous posts (in this thread) about many of the songs from this list.

About 'Seven Digits', people who heard snippets of it (in a seminar) stated that these snippets sound similar to 'D.S.' and 'Morphine' (mainly, in terms of vocal structures and chords).

Apparently, this is also the reason why Bryan Loren (after the release of the 'Dangerous' album) was disgruntled towards Michael Jackson.

According to the producer, parts of their work (during the 'Dangerous' album sessions) were later used in Michael Jackson's subsequent albums without Bryan Loren being given appropriate credits for that.

Aside Bryan Loren, it is said that 'Descending Angels' was used as an underscore in the singer's 'Ghosts' short film (1996).

An underscore is a soft soundtrack theme that accompanies a scene, in order to set the mood of that scene.

'Descending Angels' was also used in the 'Thriller'/'Threatened' segment of Michael Jackson's 'This Is It' performance.
 
mj_frenzy said:
Check my previous posts (in this thread) about many of the songs from this list.

About 'Seven Digits', people who heard snippets of it (in a seminar) stated that these snippets sound similar to 'D.S.' and 'Morphine' (mainly, in terms of vocal structures and chords).

Apparently, this is also the reason why Bryan Loren (after the release of the 'Dangerous' album) was disgruntled towards Michael Jackson.

According to the producer, parts of their work (during the 'Dangerous' album sessions) were later used in Michael Jackson's subsequent albums without Bryan Loren being given appropriate credits for that.

It is said that 'Descending Angels' was used as an underscore in the singer's 'Ghosts' short film (1996).

An underscore is a soft soundtrack theme that accompanies a scene, in order to set the mood of that scene.

'Descending Angels' was also used in the 'Thriller'/'Threatened' segment of Michael Jackson's 'This Is It' performance.
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I did not found your posts .i did not understand u about descending angel .about seven degits .she look like song history .can u explain to me and tell me about rest of songs because I did not found your posts
 
AdeZ said:
I do, very rough demo, babyface does the verses.

Don't know who your "sources" are, but they're wrong.

I can confirm to you the most complete version of the song, is exactly what Damien is describing, doesn't have any lead vocals, phenomenal instrumental though.
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Where did u heard wiling and waiting .did MJ sing in that song or no
 
AdeZ said:
I do, very rough demo, babyface does the verses.

Don't know who your "sources" are, but they're wrong.

I can confirm to you the most complete version of the song, is exactly what Damien is describing, doesn't have any lead vocals, phenomenal instrumental though.
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What does it mean very rough demo
What song u mean that don't have vocals MJ tomboy or adore you ?
 
Lotfi11k said:
I did not found your posts .i did not understand u about descending angel .about seven degits .she look like song history .can u explain to me and tell me about rest of songs because I did not found your posts
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Check my previous posts (in general) about many of the unreleased songs that you are asking information for.

'Shut Up And Dance' was meant for the 'Invincible' album, and it was allegedly planned as the lead single from the early, original version of that album.

Michael Durham Prince claims that he has that funky song in his laptop.

'Shut Up And Dance' is said to have Michael Jackson's vocals on it (at least, the chorus of it).

Also, author Joseph Vogel implies, in his 'Man In The Music' book, that most of the Bryan Loren tracks have vocals on them.

This seems to suggest that not only 'Verdict' has vocals, but also tracks like, 'Do Not Believe It', 'Seven Digits', etc, which were recorded at the Westlake Recording Studios (California) in the early 'Dangerous' album recording sessions.
 
mj_frenzy said:
Check my previous posts (in general) about many of the unreleased songs that you are asking information for.

'Shut Up And Dance' was meant for the 'Invincible' album, and it was allegedly planned as the lead single from the early, original version of that album.

Michael Durham Prince claims that he has that funky song in his laptop.

'Shut Up And Dance' is said to have Michael Jackson's vocals on it (at least, the chorus of it).

Also, author Joseph Vogel implies, in his 'Man In The Music' book, that most of the Bryan Loren tracks have vocals on them.

This seems to suggest that not only 'Verdict' has vocals, but also tracks like, 'Do Not Believe It', 'Seven Digits', etc, which were recorded at the Westlake Recording Studios (California) in the early 'Dangerous' album recording sessions.
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But they said shut up and dance don't have vocals .what about end it and promise
 
Lotfi11k said:
But they said shut up and dance don't have vocals .what about end it and promise
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Did it not yet register with you, that you probably should not ask „fake info frenzy“ regarding songs?
Especially not for reliable info.

Why you keep ignoring the advise from other users & keep on asking & asking those questions which will lead to nothing substantial?
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
Did it not yet register with you, that you probably should not ask „fake info frenzy“ regarding songs?
Especially not for reliable info.

Why you keep ignoring the advise from other users & keep on asking & asking those questions which will lead to nothing substantial?
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That just might be frenzy as well (lotfi) my friend....
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
Did it not yet register with you, that you probably should not ask „fake info frenzy“ regarding songs?
Especially not for reliable info.

Why you keep ignoring the advise from other users & keep on asking & asking those questions which will lead to nothing substantial?
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U mean frenzy is lie ?
 
wonderouzmj said:
That just might be frenzy as well (lotfi) my friend....
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You may well be right pal.. :ROFLMAO:
I could also see that one day (maybe April 1st 2023) it will be revealed that we were all trolled by those accounts for the longest ongoing April Fools joke ever..
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
You may well be right pal.. :ROFLMAO:
I could also see that one day (maybe April 1st 2023) it will be revealed that we were all trolled by those accounts for the longest ongoing April Fools joke ever..
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Can u shut up ? I'm just asked about unreleased songs
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
Did it not yet register with you, that you probably should not ask „fake info frenzy“ regarding songs?
Especially not for reliable info.
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That's mainly why I'm still responding and trying to correct frenzy's posts, after so many years. New fans who come to this forum, like @Lotfi11k, will read their posts and believe them to be correct.
 
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mj_frenzy said:
Check my previous posts (in general) about many of the unreleased songs that you are asking information for.

'Shut Up And Dance' was meant for the 'Invincible' album, and it was allegedly planned as the lead single from the early, original version of that album.

Michael Durham Prince claims that he has that funky song in his laptop.

'Shut Up And Dance' is said to have Michael Jackson's vocals on it (at least, the chorus of it).

Also, author Joseph Vogel implies, in his 'Man In The Music' book, that most of the Bryan Loren tracks have vocals on them.

This seems to suggest that not only 'Verdict' has vocals, but also tracks like, 'Do Not Believe It', 'Seven Digits', etc, which were recorded at the Westlake Recording Studios (California) in the early 'Dangerous' album recording sessions.
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“Shut Up and Dance” was never considered as the lead single. That would imply that it was developed enough to be on an early configuration of the album, which it wasn’t. I’d love to see a source.

Michael Prince co-wrote it, so he absolutely has copies (but he also has copies of almost everything he recorded/mixed for MJ).

There are two demos of “Shut Up and Dance”: one sung by co-writer Eric Kirkland and one by an unidentified female vocalist. Joe Vogel, Damien Shields, and Michael Prince have all stated that MJ never recorded it. Vogel insinuated that there may be some VERY preliminary scratch vocals, but not nearly enough to Frankenstein a finished song.

As for the Loren tracks, Vogel never “implies” that they’re mostly finished. They worked on around two dozen, but we’ve heard most of the “finished” ones already. Basically everything else is scratch vocals or instrumentals, as Loren himself confirmed during his Paris seminar in 2018.

If I’m not mistaken, “Verdict” is just an instrumental. “Don’t Believe It” and “Seven Digits” have scratch vocals. “Truth About Youth” has conflicting accounts. “Call It Off” and “All the Truth” are in the same layout as “To Satisfy You” — Loren sings the verses, MJ sings the choruses.
 
dethorro said:
That's mainly why I'm still responding and trying to correct frenzy's posts, after so many years. New fans who come to this forum, like @Lotfi11k, will read their posts and believe them to be correct.
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I'm just asking about unreleased songs i really don't know who say truth don't blame me
 
AlwaysThere said:
“Shut Up and Dance” was never considered as the lead single. That would imply that it was developed enough to be on an early configuration of the album, which it wasn’t. I’d love to see a source.

Michael Prince co-wrote it, so he absolutely has copies (but he also has copies of almost everything he recorded/mixed for MJ).

There are two demos of “Shut Up and Dance”: one sung by co-writer Eric Kirkland and one by an unidentified female vocalist. Joe Vogel, Damien Shields, and Michael Prince have all stated that MJ never recorded it. Vogel insinuated that there may be some VERY preliminary scratch vocals, but not nearly enough to Frankenstein a finished song.

As for the Loren tracks, Vogel never “implies” that they’re mostly finished. They worked on around two dozen, but we’ve heard most of the “finished” ones already. Basically everything else is scratch vocals or instrumentals, as Loren himself confirmed during his Paris seminar in 2018.

If I’m not mistaken, “Verdict” is just an instrumental. “Don’t Believe It” and “Seven Digits” have scratch vocals. “Truth About Youth” has conflicting accounts. “Call It Off” and “All the Truth” are in the same layout as “To Satisfy You” — Loren sings the verses, MJ sings the choruses.
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I did not understand what u said about truth about youth.do you have information what joe Vogel said about .tomboy .crack kills and other unreleased
 
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Lotfi11k said:
I'm asking about songs and u said bad things on Me
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I don't think anybody is saying bad things about you, they were just implying that you and 'Frenzy' might be the same person 😉

It's OK to ask questions, that's what the forum is here for! And you are more than welcome! Just be aware that some people here like to bombard threads with "facts" and quotes that might not always be accurate ❣️
 
knigofpop said:
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I don't think anybody is saying bad things about you, they were just implying that you and 'Frenzy' might be the same person 😉

It's OK to ask questions, that's what the forum is here for! And you are more than welcome! Just be aware that some people here like to bombard threads with "facts" and quotes that might not always be accurate ❣️
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No I'm not frenzy how i ask my self and respond to myself HHhH
 
Guys i found that snippet it look very real what's your opinion
 
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