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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Pollonio said:
Stop the War is the early version of We've Had Enough
Michael is Be Me 4 a Day ?
You forget the outtakes of Rodney Jerkins sessions : The Pain, Pressure, Maybe We Can Do It (feat. P Diddy), and some others stuff like The Gloved One, Seduction
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Where does the “Stop the War” info come from?
 
AlwaysThere said:
What!? How did this slide under the radar? Could you provide a link? I can’t seem to find it.
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It's not MJFrance but MJ Backstage

Interview de Carole Bayer Sager – MJBackstage

mjbackstage.be mjbackstage.be

I quote :
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MJB. Il se dit aussi que vous auriez collaboré sur une chanson qui s’appelle Stop The War. Pouvez-vous nous en dire plus ?

CBS. Ouhhh… Je crois que cette chanson est en fait We’ve Had Enough. On a écrit cette chanson avec Rodney Jerkins à l’époque d’Invincible, l’album qui marque ma dernière collaboration professionnelle avec Michael."
 
I dont know if this was posted before…
A swiss MJ fansite posted a video talking about the creation of Invincible.

He also plays snippets of the unreleased song „Jungle“. He says that MJ never recorded vocals for it. So the singer on the song he plays is apparently Dr. Freeze. Sounds like a really interesting song imo. Sad that MJ never did his vocals.

Anyway. Here is the link to the vid. Jungle starts at around 40:02
Snippets of Jungle
 
mjfan_93 said:
I dont know if this was posted before…
A swiss MJ fansite posted a video talking about the creation of Invincible.

He also plays snippets of the unreleased song „Jungle“. He says that MJ never recorded vocals for it. So the singer on the song he plays is apparently Dr. Freeze. Sounds like a really interesting song imo. Sad that MJ never did his vocals.

Anyway. Here is the link to the vid. Jungle starts at around 40:02
Snippets of Jungle
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Man, MJ fans are eating GOOD this week! The melody is catchy and reminds me a lot of Tabloid Junkie. Hopefully it gets leaked full one day.
 
mjfan_93 said:
I dont know if this was posted before…
A swiss MJ fansite posted a video talking about the creation of Invincible.

He also plays snippets of the unreleased song „Jungle“. He says that MJ never recorded vocals for it. So the singer on the song he plays is apparently Dr. Freeze. Sounds like a really interesting song imo. Sad that MJ never did his vocals.

Anyway. Here is the link to the vid. Jungle starts at around 40:02
Snippets of Jungle
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"Why You Wanna Trip On Me" but more aggressive. What a bummer MJ never recorded it. But there is A.I. so... :sneaky:
 
mjfan_93 said:
I dont know if this was posted before…
A swiss MJ fansite posted a video talking about the creation of Invincible.

He also plays snippets of the unreleased song „Jungle“. He says that MJ never recorded vocals for it. So the singer on the song he plays is apparently Dr. Freeze. Sounds like a really interesting song imo. Sad that MJ never did his vocals.

Anyway. Here is the link to the vid. Jungle starts at around 40:02
Snippets of Jungle
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Isn't that an alternative or even earlier mix of "The Way You Love Me" at 0:54? Could that mix be from the same DAT where "Jungle City" was found? There is also "What More Can I Give" on the tape but they didn't play the song in the video, maybe in part 2...
 
mjfan_93 said:
I dont know if this was posted before…
A swiss MJ fansite posted a video talking about the creation of Invincible.

He also plays snippets of the unreleased song „Jungle“. He says that MJ never recorded vocals for it. So the singer on the song he plays is apparently Dr. Freeze. Sounds like a really interesting song imo. Sad that MJ never did his vocals.

Anyway. Here is the link to the vid. Jungle starts at around 40:02
Snippets of Jungle
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Ok- WOW, first off, WOW, second, I am actually in shock holy cow we got to hear Jungle!!! Unbelievable, it sounds fantastic, like one of MJ's classic earworms, I truly truly cannot believe he did not record it, bummer. And on that note can you fill me in on what this is?? I don't speak german and would really like to know who these people are, why/how they have this stuff and just the whole reasoning and intention behind this video in general, I guess you could say I'm out of the loop on that regard... and it would help me know what to expect in part two too.
 
N.I.O.47 said:
Ok- WOW, first off, WOW, second, I am actually in shock holy cow we got to hear Jungle!!! Unbelievable, it sounds fantastic, like one of MJ's classic earworms, I truly truly cannot believe he did not record it, bummer. And on that note can you fill me in on what this is?? I don't speak german and would really like to know who these people are, why/how they have this stuff and just the whole reasoning and intention behind this video in general, I guess you could say I'm out of the loop on that regard... and it would help me know what to expect in part two too.
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The video is about the original release plans MJ and Sony had about "Invincible" and overall facts and information about the album. They also play songs that were made by 1999/early 2000 to show which tracks could have been on the album if it was released right at the start of the new millennium.
 
N.I.O.47 said:
Ok- WOW, first off, WOW, second, I am actually in shock holy cow we got to hear Jungle!!! Unbelievable, it sounds fantastic, like one of MJ's classic earworms, I truly truly cannot believe he did not record it, bummer. And on that note can you fill me in on what this is?? I don't speak german and would really like to know who these people are, why/how they have this stuff and just the whole reasoning and intention behind this video in general, I guess you could say I'm out of the loop on that regard... and it would help me know what to expect in part two too.
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It seems that the guy is one of the persons who run the fansite jackson.ch.

He is talking about the creation of Invincible in general and how it could be if MJ would have released it already in 2000. Thats why he is playing outtakes and early takes.
He says that he would have prefered more MJ solo productions (like Hollywood Tonight) on the album. I have no idea how he earns Jungle and i dont know what to except from part 2 of the video.

But i certainly will share it here 😉
 
mjfan_93 said:
It seems that the guy is one of the persons who run the fansite jackson.ch.

He is talking about the creation of Invincible in general and how it could be if MJ would have released it already in 2000. Thats why he is playing outtakes and early takes.
He says that he would have prefered more MJ solo productions (like Hollywood Tonight) on the album. I have no idea how he earns Jungle and i dont know what to except from part 2 of the video.

But i certainly will share it here 😉
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Did he mention when the mix of TWYLM was made?
 
MultiResearcher said:
Isn't that an alternative or even earlier mix of "The Way You Love Me" at 0:54? Could that mix be from the same DAT where "Jungle City" was found? There is also "What More Can I Give" on the tape but they didn't play the song in the video, maybe in part 2...
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Also decided that is good to point out the guy in the video says that "Jungle" was produced by Brad Buxer and recorded by Dr. Freeze.
The track starts with beatbox then it gradually builds into full instrumental.
In early 2000, the song along with 3 other demos (i.e. "The Way You Love Me", "What More Can I Give" and "Blue Powder") were put by Buxer on a DAT titled "MJ Bible", which served as a compilation of Michael's favorite ideas. That same tape was auctioned in 2018.
MJ later lost complete interest in the song and the way Freeze sings is what appears to be his interpretation of how Michael would had recorded the track.
 
mjfan_93 said:
I dont think so. But i guess it was definitely made before 2000. maybe in 1998/1999…
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Assuming that the mix comes from the tape that was auctioned or that it's a copy it says that the mix is from March 7th 2000. It might be an early mix indeed.
 
Hollywood_Tonight said:
They might play “Shut Up and Dance” too since it’s from the same era.
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If the songs come from the MJ Bible DAT it's more likely that we'll get the remaining songs on the tape like WMCIG and Blue Powder. It would be incredible if the person showed other songs from that era like Shut Up And Dance or Monster though.
 
Pollonio said:
It's not MJFrance but MJ Backstage

Interview de Carole Bayer Sager – MJBackstage

mjbackstage.be mjbackstage.be

I quote :
"
MJB. Il se dit aussi que vous auriez collaboré sur une chanson qui s’appelle Stop The War. Pouvez-vous nous en dire plus ?

CBS. Ouhhh… Je crois que cette chanson est en fait We’ve Had Enough. On a écrit cette chanson avec Rodney Jerkins à l’époque d’Invincible, l’album qui marque ma dernière collaboration professionnelle avec Michael."
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Thank you so much! What a fascinating revelation.
mjfan_93 said:
I dont know if this was posted before…
A swiss MJ fansite posted a video talking about the creation of Invincible.

He also plays snippets of the unreleased song „Jungle“. He says that MJ never recorded vocals for it. So the singer on the song he plays is apparently Dr. Freeze. Sounds like a really interesting song imo. Sad that MJ never did his vocals.

Anyway. Here is the link to the vid. Jungle starts at around 40:02
Snippets of Jungle
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This sounds CRAZY.
 
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