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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Guys I have question about song adore you I saw the snippet MJ sung .did he sung verse or chords there is choir group sing ?
 
Fuzball said:
“There are a couple of songs we recorded for the Bad album that we had to cut that are just sensational.”
- Frank DiLeo to RS magazine in early 2010

I'm pretty sure Frank meant songs that were worked at Westlake. From the engineers we know that only 12 songs were fully finished.

Price Of Fame and Crack Kills were worked on until early 1987 (prob Feb/Mar??). Fly Away, Someone Put Your Hand Out, Turning Me Off, Al Capone, Don't Be Messin' Around were worked on at least until late 1986. Maybe there're other songs that were still on the table in 1987 that haven't been mentioned by engineers yet?!?
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There are only so many songs Michael could have made
 
Fuzball said:
“There are a couple of songs we recorded for the Bad album that we had to cut that are just sensational.”
- Frank DiLeo to RS magazine in early 2010

I'm pretty sure Frank meant songs that were worked at Westlake. From the engineers we know that only 12 songs were fully finished.

Price Of Fame and Crack Kills were worked on until early 1987 (prob Feb/Mar??). Fly Away, Someone Put Your Hand Out, Turning Me Off, Al Capone, Don't Be Messin' Around were worked on at least until late 1986. Maybe there're other songs that were still on the table in 1987 that haven't been mentioned by engineers yet?!?
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IIRC, he was also mentioned as really digging "Buffalo Bill", and although technically Victory era, perhaps he just lumped any solo post-Thriller tunes as being earmarked for Bad. Can't imagine these guys are as hung up on dates and such like us fans.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1742664324890624361

Ha ha. It's a demo. You get what you pay for.

Sometimes M. would run a song through many times while he formed the words, the sound of 'em, the vowels, the rhymes, the rhythm of the phrases.

There's a longer version of this. Like 15 minutes. It's got epic vocal moments - goose bumps.
I just threw the track together just for the purpose. I sat with guitar, M. experimented on the mic.
Fond memories of both of these.

Brad Sundberg played the long one at one of his things.
Took me by surprise cause I didn't have it! Kinda insulted. Took a couple years for him to finally send it to me.

I like the pre-Slash versions tho.
Whole nother vibe.
 
Fuzball said:
“There are a couple of songs we recorded for the Bad album that we had to cut that are just sensational.”
- Frank DiLeo to RS magazine in early 2010

I'm pretty sure Frank meant songs that were worked at Westlake. From the engineers we know that only 12 songs were fully finished.

Price Of Fame and Crack Kills were worked on until early 1987 (prob Feb/Mar??). Fly Away, Someone Put Your Hand Out, Turning Me Off, Al Capone, Don't Be Messin' Around were worked on at least until late 1986. Maybe there're other songs that were still on the table in 1987 that haven't been mentioned by engineers yet?!?
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Are we sure these were worked on at Westlake? It's hard to pin what made it to Westlake as opposed to what stayed at Hayvenhurst
 
BlackAnon said:
Are we sure these were worked on at Westlake? It's hard to pin what made it to Westlake as opposed to what stayed at Hayvenhurst
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those titles were mentioned by engineers who worked at Westlake with Q and Bruce
 
Fuzball said:
those titles were mentioned by engineers who worked at Westlake with Q and Bruce
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Reason why I’m asking is because with Michael’s team confirming Streetwalker as the only outtake from the album and everything else being discarded during pre production, were the songs actually worked on at Westlake or were they only previewed
 
BlackAnon said:
Reason why I’m asking is because with Michael’s team confirming Streetwalker as the only outtake from the album and everything else being discarded during pre production, were the songs actually worked on at Westlake or were they only previewed
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Streetwalker is the only unreleased song that was finalized in 1987.

The others were discarded at different WIP stages.
 
I'd love more info on the Bad sessions and what songs were worked on and when others were discarded.

From what I've read the Bad sessions at Westlake lasted at least a year, that seems like a lot of time to work on just 12 songs. Surely some were at least worked? For instance the production on Fly Away feels more polished than most of the demo's we've heard from the sessions.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Time for another bingo round!

Is the fake song super fake?

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SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I'd love more info on the Bad sessions and what songs were worked on and when others were discarded.

From what I've read the Bad sessions at Westlake lasted at least a year, that seems like a lot of time to work on just 12 songs. Surely some were at least worked? For instance the production on Fly Away feels more polished than most of the demo's we've heard from the sessions.
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Hayvenhurst also has a studio and I'd assume the songs were recorded there before making their way to Westlake

How I see it is Michael recorded at Hayvenhurst while Quincy prepped the Westlake studio. Once everything was situated at Westlake, Michael brought his works in progress to see what has potential to be included on the album. They gathered to listen to the songs and what they felt wasn't strong enough was discarded until they narrowed down the 12 strongest
 
Michaels most creative period of music was between 1983-1986 everything he worked on at home during that era was amazing
 
BlackAnon said:
Hayvenhurst also has a studio and I'd assume the songs were recorded there before making their way to Westlake

How I see it is Michael recorded at Hayvenhurst while Quincy prepped the Westlake studio. Once everything was situated at Westlake, Michael brought his works in progress to see what has potential to be included on the album. They gathered to listen to the songs and what they felt wasn't strong enough was discarded until they narrowed down the 12 strongest
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Reasonable to assume sessions at Hayvenhurst continued concurrently with those at Westlake, as well, given MJ's prolific nature. Interesting to note is John Barnes stating the intention at Hayvenhurst was making records rather than mere demos. Leaves me curious as to how the initial versions compare to or evolved into the later ones.
 
FlyAway0086 said:
Reasonable to assume sessions at Hayvenhurst continued concurrently with those at Westlake, as well, given MJ's prolific nature. Interesting to note is John Barnes stating the intention at Hayvenhurst was making records rather than mere demos. Leaves me curious as to how the initial versions compare to or evolved into the later ones.
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Well we got the Speed Demon demo. If any indication, very similar to final song. Just more polished once recorded at Westlake.
 
Derek1984 said:
Well we got the Speed Demon demo. If any indication, very similar to final song. Just more polished once recorded at Westlake.
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Off topic but I would love to hear actual real demos of Liberian Girl , Bad ( the actual song) , a few from Dangerous like In The Closet , Remember the Time. I think being the perfectionist he was , there would be multiple demos of each song, like we found with Human Nature and Billie Jean.
 
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