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There's not many actual HIStory outtakes, most of the songs fully recorded made it on there, the other were either released somewhere else, or leaked.
 
JamesCMJJ said:
There's not many actual HIStory outtakes, most of the songs fully recorded made it on there, the other were either released somewhere else, or leaked.
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HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I

HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I (often shortened to just HIStory) is the ninth studio album by American singer-songwriter Michael Jackson, released through Epic Records on June 16, 1995. The album includes two discs: the first one, with Jackson's greatest hits, and the second with...
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“Heaven Can Wait” swapped for “Beautiful Girl.”

“P.Y.T.” swapped for “Who Do You Know.”

“We’ve Had Enough” swapped for “Fall Again.”

I’m in.
 
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HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I

HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I (often shortened to just HIStory) is the ninth studio album by American singer-songwriter Michael Jackson, released through Epic Records on June 16, 1995. The album includes two discs: the first one, with Jackson's greatest hits, and the second with...
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I don't think all of the gottahaverockandroll HIStory songs were recorded by MJ or even exactly for MJ, iirc some of them were copyrighted at USCO as someone else's songs, one of them was even released by David Hasselhoff lmao. The titles also feel very not-MJ but I mean, they're outtakes for a reason so who knows.

Other than that, a lot of these are either confirmed instrumentals or were nothing more than lyric sheets at this point in time. The only ones that were for sure recorded for HIStory (that we know of) are Changes, Faces (intro only), Ghosts, In the Back, Innocent Man, Is It Scary, Morphine, Much Too Soon and Why, and we already have most of these songs.
 
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I don't think all of the gottahaverockandroll HIStory songs were recorded by MJ or even exactly for MJ, iirc some of them were copyrighted at USCO as someone else's songs, one of them was even released by David Hasselhoff lmao. The titles are also very not-MJ but I mean, they're outtakes for a reason so who knows.

Other than that, a lot of these are either confirmed instrumentals or were nothing more than lyric sheets at this point in time. The only ones that were for sure recorded for HIStory (that we know of) are Changes, Circles (?), D.N.A. (?), Faces (intro only), Ghosts, In the Back, Innocent Man, Is It Scary, Morphine, Much Too Soon and Why, and we already have most of these songs.
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Don't Be Messin' 'Round could also be in good condition, after all the song was quite acceptable in the 80s.
 
Yeah I was just gonna edit cause I wasn't sure about this one! Don't know about new vocals but I think there's a chance there might've been some minor upgrades done to it like DYKWYCA.
But at the same time I could never find a proper source for DBMR ever being worked on for HIStory, so idk tbh.
 
"On the Line" would be a great bonus for HIStory 30. It was recorded in 1996 and released during the HIStory tour.
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On the Line

"On the Line" is a song written by American singer-songwriter Michael Jackson, released as the first track from the Spike Lee movie, Get on the Bus. It was released as a single on January 11, 1997. The full version was released in 2004 as the forty-eighth track from The Ultimate Collection. The...
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AlwaysThere said:
“Heaven Can Wait” swapped for “Beautiful Girl.”

“P.Y.T.” swapped for “Who Do You Know.”

“We’ve Had Enough” swapped for “Fall Again.”

I’m in.
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You're disqualified. Don't affect the canon.

Also neither of those tracks were on Invincible. Fall Again??? It doesn't even have a full bridge.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
You're disqualified. Don't affect the canon.

Also neither of those tracks were on Invincible. Fall Again??? It doesn't even have a full bridge.
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Thought we were considering finished tracks and unfinished tracks, not specifically album tracks. My mistake. Still learning how to read.

In that case, swapping “Cry” for “Fall Again.”
 
@AlwaysThere You're confused Sweetie.

Interesting slightly off topic hypothetical, would you (you being anyone reading this) trade the unreleased tracks with vocals for the (also unreleased) ones that have no vocals?
 
It's entirely possible that the estate have recovered some iPhone vocal demos. I think it's very unlikely they would ever release something like that, though.
 
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It's entirely possible that the estate have recovered some iPhone vocal demos. I think it's very unlikely they would ever release something like that, though.
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Didn't mean literally, but some fairy dust of truth. He probably didn't use the phone to record demos as he had higher quality pocket sized equipment for that. maybe quick ideas though
But now it got me thinking...(off topic) June 2009 iphone was the first decent one. I wonder whether he got sent one in advance.
 
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Didn't mean literally, but some fairy dust of truth. He probably didn't use the phone to record demos as he had higher quality pocket sized equipment for that. maybe quick ideas though
But now it got me thinking...(off topic) June 2009 iphone was the first decent one. I wonder whether he got sent one in advance.
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Garage Band actually wasn't on iPhones until 2011 so the timeline doesn't match up to cope 😮‍💨

It would be Garage Band on a Macbook or iMac instead #believe #thedreamgoeson
 
Voice Memos came to iOS for iOS 3 which released June 17th 2009.

I think it's why Murray recorded Michael on a random app. Maybe MJ also used that app?
 
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HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I

HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I (often shortened to just HIStory) is the ninth studio album by American singer-songwriter Michael Jackson, released through Epic Records on June 16, 1995. The album includes two discs: the first one, with Jackson's greatest hits, and the second with...
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And how many of those actual have vocals
 
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And how many of those actual have vocals
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Songs no. 1-2; 5-8; 18; 25; 30; 32; 35-36 are all grooves w/no vocals
Songs no. 3-4; 9; 11; 40 (and possibly 31 and 42) have barely any releasable vocals (choruses only or scratch vocals throughout)
Songs no. 13-14; 16; 20-22; 26-27; 29; 33-34; 37-39 were likely just songs by other MJJ Productions artists
Song no. 41 only exists as a writer's demo
Songs no. 10; 12; 17; 19; 23 were already released
Song no. 28 never left the writing stage
Only song no. 24 has something releasable (mix no. 9 w/strings)
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Interesting slightly off topic hypothetical, would you (you being anyone reading this) trade the unreleased tracks with vocals for the ones that have no vocals?

Let's say I Am a Loser has no vocals in exchange for, say, a fully complete Ghost of Another Lover.

Dream Away is bare and empty but Water is about fully realized.

Hollywood Tonight had a complete bridge but Xscape loses its middle section.

And so on and so forth.
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There’s not much I wouldn’t do for a complete ‚Ghost Of Another Lover‘ in HQ… 🤣
 
Email from The estate about biopic and later project (Dangerous and HIStory Documentaries… maybe we will get some new stuff soon

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Thank you for your continued support of Michael Jackson’s legacy.

We continue to hear from many of you about your disappointment with not having any official updates on the Michael biopic. So, we wanted to just let you all know that, just like you, the Online Team continues to ask for information on the film.

Rest assured that once the movie studio, who ultimately controls the release of the information, does provide information and/or assets, we will be sharing that information and/or assets with you!! And, like you, we hope that more details are released very soon.

As hard as it is to remain patient, we try to remind ourselves how Michael could not be rushed when it came to his art and how amazing the results were when he finally released each album, short film, etc. We are hopeful that the additional time and work on the film will serve to make it an even better movie experience for all of us and that our patience will be rewarded in the end with a film that we can all cheer for and celebrate as being Michael-worthy.

We also appreciate that the delays in the release of the biopic have the added impact of delaying the projects the Estate has planned, including well-deserved documentaries for both Dangerous and HIStory and other projects as well. And while we appreciate and understand the additional disappointment that this causes for us all, we have confirmed that the Estate looks forward to being in a position to restart its efforts with respect to all of the projects that are planned to follow the release of the biopic.

We appreciate your outreach and excitement. As soon as we have news to share, we will send another email out.

In the meantime, feel free to continue to email us with your questions and comments, and we will continue to do our best to provide you with the information and/or guidance we can.

Thank you,

MJ Online Team
 
Honestly, using the biopic as a springboard to start funneling new projects out is a great idea. Remind people why they love MJ, then hit them with, “Wanna see/hear stuff you’ve never heard before?” I think that’s a lot more enticing timeline wise than just releasing something at random.

Of course it’s all in the execution, but this could be another MJ renaissance if done well.
 
I just hope they'll drop those documentaries at random dates that comes soon after the biopic's release instead of waiting for certain anniversary dates to come up, by the time they come the biopic will have long been forgotten by the general public and it won't have the same impact. Imagine if we're still forced to wait 5+ years for the Dangerous documentary that would suck so badly lol
 
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