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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

AlwaysThere said:
Wow, “Shut Up and Dance” is… average sounding. I recall Joe Vogel saying it was Stevie Wonder reminiscent, and I can kinda hear that. Maybe with vocals it would be better, but this little snippet isn’t very encouraging.
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Did he record vocals for it though? I thought I read somewhere he never recorded vocals for it, but I could be remembering wrong
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Unfortunate there's no vocals but not surprising.
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Interesting slightly off topic hypothetical, would you (you being anyone reading this) trade the unreleased tracks with vocals for the ones that have no vocals?

Let's say I Am a Loser has no vocals in exchange for, say, a fully complete Ghost of Another Lover.

Dream Away is bare and empty but Water is about fully realized.

Hollywood Tonight had a complete bridge but Xscape loses its middle section.

And so on and so forth.
 
I'd even do that with released songs depending on what song we're talking here. I wouldn't hesitate switching "You Rock My World" for a version of "Monster" (the Invincible outtake) with complete vocals.
 
AlwaysThere said:
^^ That is a damn good question.

I’d say it depends on the songs we’re switching.
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Its basically just a variation of "I'd give my firstborn son for a chance to shake Michael's hand"

"I'd give the entire Invincible album to hear Michael's follow up to the Invincible album!"

ChanceToDance said:
I'd even do that with released songs depending on what song we're talking here. I wouldn't hesitate switching "You Rock My World" for a version of "Monster" (the Invincible outtake) with complete vocals.
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That's cheating and you know it. But more importantly it's boring. Just another form of "Change Michael's albums on a whim". Keep it to the leaks and outtakes.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
That's cheating and you know it. But more importantly it's boring. Just another form of "Change Michael's albums on a whim".
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Don't care. P.Y.T and The Way You Make Me Feel for Adore You
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I'd exchange every single one of Bryan Loren's songs (except Mind Is The Magic probably) for a solo version of To Satisfy You, it's Bryan's best song and it's a shame that the duet is all there is to it as far as MJ's recorded vocals goes.
 
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For the Thriller sessions, I’d gladly trade Nite Line for Spice of Life (assuming there's at least a super rough demo somewhere). The Manhattan Transfer version is fire and honestly makes me hope Michael recorded it too, if he did, who knows what happened to the tapes?

For Bad, I’m giving up Streetwalker in exchange for Crack Kills. We don’t even know what it sounds like, but just from the title alone, I’m calling it a banger.

When it comes to Dangerous, we all know the only unreleased track that truly deserves to be finished is GOAL. Just sacrifice any of the Loren tracks lmao.

For HIStory, I’d trade In the Back for Faces. I feel like a finished version of that could’ve actually been a hit.

As for the later years, I’m dropping CGYWOOM for pretty much any unreleased track from the final sessions? except Water, that snippet already sounds weak as hell. I’d probably go with Dark Lady, Rocker, or Monster.
 
There's not many actual HIStory outtakes, most of the songs fully recorded made it on there, the other were either released somewhere else, or leaked.
 
JamesCMJJ said:
There's not many actual HIStory outtakes, most of the songs fully recorded made it on there, the other were either released somewhere else, or leaked.
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HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I

HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I (often shortened to HIStory) is the ninth studio album by American singer-songwriter Michael Jackson, released through Epic Records on June 16, 1995. The album includes two discs: the first one, with Jackson's greatest hits, and the second with fifteen...
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“Heaven Can Wait” swapped for “Beautiful Girl.”

“P.Y.T.” swapped for “Who Do You Know.”

“We’ve Had Enough” swapped for “Fall Again.”

I’m in.
 
Hot_Street said:

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HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I

HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I (often shortened to HIStory) is the ninth studio album by American singer-songwriter Michael Jackson, released through Epic Records on June 16, 1995. The album includes two discs: the first one, with Jackson's greatest hits, and the second with fifteen...
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I don't think all of the gottahaverockandroll HIStory songs were recorded by MJ or even exactly for MJ, iirc some of them were copyrighted at USCO as someone else's songs, one of them was even released by David Hasselhoff lmao. The titles also feel very not-MJ but I mean, they're outtakes for a reason so who knows.

Other than that, a lot of these are either confirmed instrumentals or were nothing more than lyric sheets at this point in time. The only ones that were for sure recorded for HIStory (that we know of) are Changes, Faces (intro only), Ghosts, In the Back, Innocent Man, Is It Scary, Morphine, Much Too Soon and Why, and we already have most of these songs.
 
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love1sfatal said:
I don't think all of the gottahaverockandroll HIStory songs were recorded by MJ or even exactly for MJ, iirc some of them were copyrighted at USCO as someone else's songs, one of them was even released by David Hasselhoff lmao. The titles are also very not-MJ but I mean, they're outtakes for a reason so who knows.

Other than that, a lot of these are either confirmed instrumentals or were nothing more than lyric sheets at this point in time. The only ones that were for sure recorded for HIStory (that we know of) are Changes, Circles (?), D.N.A. (?), Faces (intro only), Ghosts, In the Back, Innocent Man, Is It Scary, Morphine, Much Too Soon and Why, and we already have most of these songs.
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Don't Be Messin' 'Round could also be in good condition, after all the song was quite acceptable in the 80s.
 
Yeah I was just gonna edit cause I wasn't sure about this one! Don't know about new vocals but I think there's a chance there might've been some minor upgrades done to it like DYKWYCA.
But at the same time I could never find a proper source for DBMR ever being worked on for HIStory, so idk tbh.
 
"On the Line" would be a great bonus for HIStory 30. It was recorded in 1996 and released during the HIStory tour.
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On the Line

"On the Line" is a song written by American singer-songwriter Michael Jackson, released as the first track from the Spike Lee movie, Get on the Bus. It was released as a single on January 11, 1997. The full version was released in 2004 as the forty-eighth track from The Ultimate Collection. The...
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AlwaysThere said:
“Heaven Can Wait” swapped for “Beautiful Girl.”

“P.Y.T.” swapped for “Who Do You Know.”

“We’ve Had Enough” swapped for “Fall Again.”

I’m in.
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You're disqualified. Don't affect the canon.

Also neither of those tracks were on Invincible. Fall Again??? It doesn't even have a full bridge.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
You're disqualified. Don't affect the canon.

Also neither of those tracks were on Invincible. Fall Again??? It doesn't even have a full bridge.
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Thought we were considering finished tracks and unfinished tracks, not specifically album tracks. My mistake. Still learning how to read.

In that case, swapping “Cry” for “Fall Again.”
 
@AlwaysThere You're confused Sweetie.

Interesting slightly off topic hypothetical, would you (you being anyone reading this) trade the unreleased tracks with vocals for the (also unreleased) ones that have no vocals?
 
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