The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

[mjfp]

the plan was single releases only, and then a „compilation“ studio album featuring the previously released singles

 

[JamesCMJJ]

the plan was single releases only, and then a „compilation“ studio album featuring the previously released singles

essentially the inverted version of the Bad album rollout

 

[GYWOOM]

@arisenow Here's where I have a question, and it also applies to @GYWOOM, but:

Is there anything recorded in MJ’s lastest years that we haven't heard yet but that you guys would consider a really good song? Not a loop, or instrumental thing. Really hope theres something better recorded those years

And don't mention Rocker or Boy No, I don't find those that appealing.

Phonecall for Peace is nice but no not really

 

[threepea11]

It was briefly considered for Invincible, according to Damien Shields, but there's no evidence to suggest it ever got redone in the studio.

wasn't it basically considered for every album because Michael loved it so much?

 

[lotfi]

@arisenow did you heard tomboy or crack kills or children holiday .children hours

 

[threepea11]

For anyone that actually knows - There are only 2 songs that I really care about, all the rest are a gift IMO.

But are either Victory or Buffalo Bill actually believed to be in circulation? Is there any proof?

There was (apparently) some talk about some people hearing Victory a couple weeks ago. They described it as incomplete; a ballad/uptempo hybrid, something around the lines of Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now if I were to imagine.

Supposedly, a small snippet of Buffalo Bill played in a discord call, but nobody recorded it.

ofc, take these with a grain of salt, but I heard these from multiple people

 

[threepea11]

Phonecall for Peace is nice but no not really

Motif casually dropping a song title that was previously unknown

what era
and is it related to Pray for Peace?

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

I wouldn’t mind more songs getting the “Don’t Matter To Me” treatment, I’d just hope they’d pick better than Drake.

 

[threepea11]

Also @SeriousFX IYDLM is listed on both the Michael and Xscape sections, pretty sure that isn't correct, I dont remember Bill saying he revised it twice

 

[Inthestudiowithmj]

Phonecall for Peace is nice but no not really

Is that what neff-u played during the Michael documentary

 

[michaeljackson.nl]

Is that what neff-u played during the Michael documentary

No, that’s just them talking during sessions.

Motif casually dropping a song title that was previously unknown

what era
and is it related to Pray for Peace?

It is Pray for Peace, but MJ sings it in a phonecall to Buxer iirc.

 

[arisenow]

@arisenow did you heard tomboy or crack kills or children holiday .children hours

Tomboy? Yes.
Crack Kills? No.
Children’s Holiday? Yes.
Children’s Hour? Yes.

 

[threepea11]

Tomboy? Yes.

If I may ask, is it true that Tomboy is "vocally complete"? and is it actually related to Stop That?

 

[Saka21]

Unreleased Michael Jackson: Pray For Peace - Michael Jackson MJSTAR

The King Of Pop, Michael Jackson, once shared with MJSTAR details of a new song in a telephone conversation where Michael talked about life and music. Michael Jackson was inspired and ready to share with the world a brand new song entitled “Pray For Peace”. Michael told MJSTAR this new song...

mjstar.co.uk

 

[arisenow]

If I may ask, is it true that Tomboy is "vocally complete"? and is it actually related to Stop That?

It's very much a Barnes production, so it's not really what I would listen to on a daily basis. I only have a version with scratch vocals.

 

[michaeljackson.nl]

It's very much a Barnes production

= peak

 

[Glanni]

Children’s Holiday? Yes.
Children’s Hour? Yes.

are they similar to heal the world, what more can i give or people of the world?

 

[NetflexKing]

It's very much a Barnes production, so it's not really what I would listen to on a daily basis. I only have a version with scratch vocals.

Is there any song we could compare it to? Something it sounds similar to?

 

[threepea11]

It's very much a Barnes production, so it's not really what I would listen to on a daily basis. I only have a version with scratch vocals.

What songs did he produce/co-produce again? iirc it was TMO, MoB, Alright Now, and Cheater, may be missing some

According to Bill, the song was basically finished, vocally anyway. Idk, this track is weird to me, there the Stop That claim, and the I Bet You Remember hook claim

 

[ChanceToDance]

Unreleased Michael Jackson: Pray For Peace - Michael Jackson MJSTAR

The King Of Pop, Michael Jackson, once shared with MJSTAR details of a new song in a telephone conversation where Michael talked about life and music. Michael Jackson was inspired and ready to share with the world a brand new song entitled “Pray For Peace”. Michael told MJSTAR this new song...

mjstar.co.uk

So if the song was co-written by Barry Gibbs could the "Barri Gibbs MJ" song listed in the notes inside MJ's bedroom actually have been referring to "Pray For Peace" instead of "All In Your Name"?

 

[threepea11]

Also, in the 1993 disposition, when Michael is asked about Tomboy, he quietly whispers and moves his head to its beat as he tries to recall it. I say that because he did the same for Cheater (which basically matched the actual song) and another song as well that I'm forgetting. I know this is niche, but does his little beatbox match what Tomboy actually sounds like?

 

[Fuzball]

It's very much a Barnes production, so it's not really what I would listen to on a daily basis. I only have a version with scratch vocals.

If you have the song, lyrics please.

 

[Fuzball]

What songs did he produce/co-produce again? iirc it was TMO, MoB, Alright Now, and Cheater, may be missing some

Barnes didn't work on cheater.

 

[threepea11]

Barnes didn't work on cheater.

oh huh, thought he did for some reason

 

[threepea11]

After digging a bit, someone claims that Tomboy was reworked in Dangerous under the title She's Not A Girl, but this post is from 14 years ago so I highly doubt that's true

 

[arisenow]

are they similar to heal the world, what more can i give or people of the world?

Children's Holiday is so catchy! It's the better WOC, lol. In all seriousness though, if you've heard the J-Friends version, then you can imagine how Michael's demo sounded. I'm sure K would like to comment on Childrens Hour.

Is there any song we could compare it to? Something it sounds similar to?

Listen to "Turnin' Me Off" to understand how Barnes worked. I'm really not a fan.

I Bet You Remember hook claim

I understand why someone might think that.

If you have the song, lyrics please.

It's literally just a scratch vocal with no sensible lyrics. The melody is there; that's it. At least for my early HH version.

 

[SeriousFX]

It's literally just a scratch vocal with no sensible lyrics. The melody is there; that's it. At least for my early HH version.

Perhaps it's a rough mix from early on.

Does the version you have contain Roger Troutman's guitar ODs?

 

[arisenow]

Does the version you have contain Roger Troutman's guitar ODs?

It doesn't.

 

[threepea11]

Children's Holiday is so catchy! It's the better WOC, lol. In all seriousness though, if you've heard the J-Friends version, then you can imagine how Michael's demo sounded. I'm sure K would like to comment on Childrens Hour.

So despite the J-Friends version being from 1998, Michael's version is from circa 1993? interesting. Im guessing its more on the completed side

 

[Fuzball]

It's literally just a scratch vocal with no sensible lyrics. The melody is there; that's it. At least for my early HH version.

Do you really have that song?