The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

[threepea11]

Whelp I tried to warn people about Brad and his enlarged EGO (which fans help feed) and his lies about Michael no giving him credit for SIM (which evolved substantially over the years)

Im not the least bit surprise to hear he is staking a claim on other songs. Give a liar an inch and they will take a mile, that's why the fandom should have pushed back hard on his new post death stranger in moscow claims instead of just blindly believing him and taking his word as fact.

This was weeks ago

 

[threepea11]

Quick question, do we have a definitive estimate as to when Abortion Papers was recorded? I’ve seen 1983, 85, and 86 thrown around, but I have no idea for sure. Also, was the Song Groove title something that was made up for Bad 25? Or was it apart of the title originally?

 

[MsAshley]

Slash's Snakepit - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

mj and slash met in 1991. clearly, mj inspired slash's snakepit

 

[WerandMJJ]

the instrumental with BGV surfaced in 2020 and there were fake snippets in 2018-2019. Honestly no idea who made it. I want to say I did hear the CDQ track at some point but I may be misremembering. Looking on YT it looks like the original track has been removed and now it’s just shitty edits with MJ adlibs thrown ontop or instrumental remakes.

I saw somewhere that the performer is Jike Mackson, but I have no idea about the instrumental, maybe Sisk Reeves (he was the first to post the snippet of Saturday Woman on youtube)

 

[WerandMJJ]

If only we could somehow contact and ask Frank Cascio about the veracity of these snippets (he was the one who first mentioned it after all).

I think it's fake, cause Saturday Woman was recorded in 2000s

 

[Clay7]

I think it's fake, cause Saturday Woman was recorded in 2000s

We don’t know the time period for SW, only that MJ had a list of songs when he passed and it was on there, along with songs from the 80s and 90s lol

 

[Clay7]

If only we could somehow contact and ask Frank Cascio about the veracity of these snippets (he was the one who first mentioned it after all).

WHY in the hell would you ask FRANK CASCIO to verify ANYTHING

 

[Harun]

Any infos on this random song? I remember this being all over the MJ community back in the early 2000s!

I have the feeling we never really found out whether or not its Michael or if it has any connection to him. But before Invincible album release this song circulated online as a "MJ" Song.

HAHAHAHA THE GOOD OLD 2000

 

[Fuzball]

Quick question, do we have a definitive estimate as to when Abortion Papers was recorded? I’ve seen 1983, 85, and 86 thrown around, but I have no idea for sure. Also, was the Song Groove title something that was made up for Bad 25? Or was it apart of the title originally?

1983 or 1984

 

[Derek1984]

1983 or 1984

Was going to say the same. The vocals sound like 83 or 84.

 

[SeriousFX]

Quick question, do we have a definitive estimate as to when Abortion Papers was recorded? I’ve seen 1983, 85, and 86 thrown around, but I have no idea for sure. Also, was the Song Groove title something that was made up for Bad 25? Or was it apart of the title originally?

1983 due to Brian Malouf's involvement.

 

[AlwaysThere]

Honestly surprising that it dates to ‘83. It sounds far closer to ‘86 as far as production goes.

 

[Pentum]

Any infos on this random song? I remember this being all over the MJ community back in the early 2000s!

I have the feeling we never really found out whether or not its Michael or if it has any connection to him. But before Invincible album release this song circulated online as a "MJ" Song.

I remember this very well, it never vocally sounded like MJ, but I always thought it was very similar to Beautiful Girl sonically wise

 

[ChanceToDance]

Are either of these legit? The second snippet sounds like it could be "Beatbox 2010", the song is supposed to be a drum loop with beatboxing on top.

 

[threepea11]

Honestly surprising that it dates to ‘83. It sounds far closer to ‘86 as far as production goes.

Maybe it’s possible that overdubs were added in ‘86 or it was worked on further after ‘83?

 

[Fuzball]

Maybe it’s possible that overdubs were added in ‘86 or it was worked on further after ‘83?

I don't think so. None of Michael's regular collaborators/engineers knew about this song.

 

[BlackAnon]

Quick question, do we have a definitive estimate as to when Abortion Papers was recorded? I’ve seen 1983, 85, and 86 thrown around, but I have no idea for sure. Also, was the Song Groove title something that was made up for Bad 25? Or was it apart of the title originally?

This was a song that we initially missed during archiving. It was titled 'Song Groove' on the box so we overlooked it. - Matt Forger

I'm guessing Abortion Papers was a title created since it's said in the chorus . The original was likely the instrumental song groove before he laid vocals but never named it

 

[SlimShadytill80]

Rocker tomorrow

 

[Fuzball]

Let's just pretend "Snakepit" does exist. If there was a video, that means the song made it to Quincy at Westlake. Brad would surely know about it.
It's an odd title for a song, and the first time I think we've ever heard of this. Hard to think that it does exist.

Both articles that mention Snakepit were written by Steven Ivory; he's a guy who knew Q in person. Dunno if he'd made things up.

 

[Seldervi]

Both articles that mention Snakepit were written by Steven Ivory; he's a guy who knew Q in person. Dunno if he'd made things up.

he was snakepit

 

[Strangerintheworld]

Rocker tomorrow

Don't give me hope

 

[Clay7]

he was snakepit

WE are snakepit

 

[mjfp]

Quick question, do we have a definitive estimate as to when Abortion Papers was recorded? I’ve seen 1983, 85, and 86 thrown around, but I have no idea for sure. Also, was the Song Groove title something that was made up for Bad 25? Or was it apart of the title originally?

1984

 

[SeriousFX]

Both articles that mention Snakepit were written by Steven Ivory; he's a guy who knew Q in person. Dunno if he'd made things up.

Now that I think about it, it has become difficult to assume Snakepit was wholly made up - not just because of the Ivory-Q connection, but also because Quincy usually kept outtakes for albums he worked on a tightly-lipped secret (for instance: we don't know the rest of the 30 tracks made during Thriller's studio sessions - sans the main tracks and released/leaked outtakes). So it's not out-of-the question for Snakepit to have existed as something Quincy championed - both as a song and a video-led single - that got rejected by Michael in the middle (or even near the end) of its production.