Theories : What do you think happened based on testimony

I just can't shake off this thought or question about where exactly was Murray that evening and night before arriving to Michael's house? I remember that story that Geraldine Hughes came up with..but, yeah, it's Geraldine Hughes. However, the prosecution should bring this big big issue into discussion, for Murray could have been either tipsy or high or getting down with women, partying before that. He wasn't/couldn't be tested that fateful tragic day of June, for he disappeared for two days. I really do hope it can be determined where he was, for what Murray did and didn't do that June 25 was beyond shady and wrong, no sane person would be this reckless and apparently mad. He talks to his lovers that day and does everything a professional couldn't possibly do. Man, this is just unbelievable.
 
Here is a statement by Walgren. What do you all think it is? Based on testimony in prelim and medical facts, I think it's BOTH the first and second option. Third option can be thrown out the window because Conrad told the detective that he had a watch to keep track on when to give the meds.

Statement by Walgren:

"According to Dr. Murray's own timeline, he let MJ lie there for over and hour not breating.

Or he could by lying about his timeline, and Dr. Murray is not being truthful about his timeline.

Third option, is that Dr. Murray is so utterly incompetent and reckless, that he has no idea what he gave him or when."
 
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what ever happens in the court cases! MJ cant come back this guy did things he should not have done and tried to cover things up! What is most annoying is that if he had rung the hospital a bit earlier instead of hiding bottles he might still be with us!
 
A person that has not yet cropped up in this thread is Susan Etok who, by the way, is listed as one of the prospective witnesses.

There are two articles I came across in late 2009, one from the Daily Mirror UK. I reproduce below the shorter one:

“A British doctor is flying out to Los Angeles this week after police asked for her to help with their investigation into the death of superstar Michael Jackson. Dr. Susan Essien Etok, who says she had a long-term friendship with Jackson, will be flying to the States tomorrow to meet with police, and will spend four days there.

Dr. Etok met the King of Pop in Las Vegas in 1998 and said they kept in touch regularly. The 32-year-old from Luton, in Bedfordshire, claims Jackson was a drug addict and believes this is what ultimately led to his death. “He didn’t want to admit that he had an addiction. He didn’t want to admit it to himself,” she said.

Dr. Etok, who qualified with a PHD in biomaterial engineering and had six relatives in the medical profession, says she was summoned to meet Jackson at his suite in London’s five-star Lanesborough Hotel, when the star visited the capital to promote his concerts.

“I wasn’t expected to see him because it was just a publicity thing, but on the 2nd of March I got a call from Vince, one of his minders, to keep the 6th of March free,” she said. When I was at the hotel I saw a lot of drug paraphernalia and it was like a mini hospital, you would expect a doctor’s office to have that many drugs,” she said.

Dr. Etok claims that the thin-looking Jackson begged for her help and offered her half-a-million pounds to supply him with drugs to help him through his gruelling tour at London’s O2 arena. “He kept saying, ‘Are you going to do it for me? You’re going to do it for me, aren’t you?’ He was desperate, like a child begging his mum for sweets,” she said.

Dr. Etok claims she was so concerned over his health that she took a cocktail of pills from the singer’s bathroom to examine what he had been taking. “They were anti-depressants, anti-anxiety pills and Diprivan, which is an anaesthetic. That’s when I got suspicious,” she said.

On March 20, she sent Jackson an email turning down his lucrative proposal. “I told him that I wasn’t able to help him and he tried to play it down, saying ‘Don’t worry, I’ll get somebody else to do it.’ I told him I didn’t like the sound of it and asked him what was going on,” she said. Her probing resulted in a heated argument between them. “I threatened t go to his mum and he told me to leave her out of it, and then he told me, ‘You don’t tell me what to do, I’m Michael Jackson,’” she said.

Dr. Etok suspects that people in Jackson’s inner circle who were not family or friends are responsible for his death, and wants to share what she knows with police. “There were forces that blocked me from outing his problem. These are forces that were not very nice and more powerful than me. I have a certain amount of knowledge of what was going on,” she said.

She said she decided to go public with her story so that people know the truth about Jackson. “Fans want these details suppressed so they can continue to idolize Michael as a saint and he wasn’t. He was like everybody else.”

Susan Etok also said in an interview that in October 2008 Mike asked her to have a baby for him using her egg and his sperm via test tube, when she complained to him about not being able to find a suitable man, and that he pestered her for several months the last time being several weeks before he died, saying he thought she would be a good mother. She said she of course declined because she wouldn’t want to give up the child.

Some say she’s credible but many are of the opinion that she’s doing it for publicity
 
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A person that has not yet cropped up in this thread is Susan Etok who, by the way, is listed as one of the prospective witnesses.

There are two articles I came across in late 2009, one from the Daily Mirror UK. I reproduce below the shorter one:

“A British doctor is flying out to Los Angeles this week after police asked for her to help with their investigation into the death of superstar Michael Jackson. Dr. Susan Essien Etok, who says she had a long-term friendship with Jackson, will be flying to the States tomorrow to meet with police, and will spend four days there.

Dr. Etok met the King of Pop in Las Vegas in 1998 and said they kept in touch regularly. The 32-year-old from Luton, in Bedfordshire, claims Jackson was a drug addict and believes this is what ultimately led to his death. “He didn’t want to admit that he had an addiction. He didn’t want to admit it to himself,” she said.

Dr. Etok, who qualified with a PHD in biomaterial engineering and had six relatives in the medical profession, says she was summoned to meet Jackson at his suite in London’s five-star Lanesborough Hotel, when the star visited the capital to promote his concerts.

“I wasn’t expected to see him because it was just a publicity thing, but on the 2nd of March I got a call from Vince, one of his minders, to keep the 6th of March free,” she said. When I was at the hotel I saw a lot of drug paraphernalia and it was like a mini hospital, you would expect a doctor’s office to have that many drugs,” she said.

Dr. Etok claims that the thin-looking Jackson begged for her help and offered her half-a-million pounds to supply him with drugs to help him through his gruelling tour at London’s O2 arena. “He kept saying, ‘Are you going to do it for me? You’re going to do it for me, aren’t you?’ He was desperate, like a child begging his mum for sweets,” she said.

Dr. Etok claims she was so concerned over his health that she took a cocktail of pills from the singer’s bathroom to examine what he had been taking. “They were anti-depressants, anti-anxiety pills and Diprivan, which is an anaesthetic. That’s when I got suspicious,” she said.

On March 20, she sent Jackson an email turning down his lucrative proposal. “I told him that I wasn’t able to help him and he tried to play it down, saying ‘Don’t worry, I’ll get somebody else to do it.’ I told him I didn’t like the sound of it and asked him what was going on,” she said. Her probing resulted in a heated argument between them. “I threatened t go to his mum and he told me to leave her out of it, and then he told me, ‘You don’t tell me what to do, I’m Michael Jackson,’” she said.

Dr. Etok suspects that people in Jackson’s inner circle who were not family or friends are responsible for his death, and wants to share what she knows with police. “There were forces that blocked me from outing his problem. These are forces that were not very nice and more powerful than me. I have a certain amount of knowledge of what was going on,” she said.

She said she decided to go public with her story so that people know the truth about Jackson. “Fans want these details suppressed so they can continue to idolize Michael as a saint and he wasn’t. He was like everybody else.”

Susan Etok also said in an interview that in October 2008 Mike asked her to have a baby for him using her egg and his sperm via test tube, when she complained to him about not being able to find a suitable man, and that he pestered her for several months the last time being several weeks before he died, saying he thought she would be a good mother. She said she of course declined because she wouldn’t want to give up the child.

Some say she’s credible but many are of the opinion that she’s doing it for publicity

She is not a medical doctor so how would she be able to supply him with control or prescription medications?

She took a 'cocktail of pills...Diprivan..'??? Really? In what world does Diprivan come in pill form??

He's a 50 year old man and she's threatening to go to his MOTHER??? Really??
He pestered her to have his child in 2008? And up until shortly before he died? Really, when he already had 3 lovely children? And we should believe her because...???

Credible?? Nah. Publicity? I think so.
 
She is not a medical doctor so how would she be able to supply him with control or prescription medications?

She took a 'cocktail of pills...Diprivan..'??? Really? In what world does Diprivan come in pill form??

He's a 50 year old man and she's threatening to go to his MOTHER??? Really??
He pestered her to have his child in 2008? And up until shortly before he died? Really, when he already had 3 lovely children? And we should believe her because...???

Credible?? Nah. Publicity? I think so.
I agree Etok is a crackpot...she cannot be taken seriously...
 
Yeah shes a total loony.needs to put in a straight jacket with klien
 
Her brothers were said to be medical doctors.

I lean more on the publicity thing as she has said and done some, as you said, loony things.
 
Is nothing you talk about with you friend private anymore,
if mike ask me to have his baby I would view it as a private. Talk and keep it to my self I would not be telling one news to or another because true friend keep there friend secret to the grave.
 
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