Wait hold up... this is my 1st time hearing of this doc!! I need some details!Snek;4321635 said:Apollo shows were after American Bandstand I believe. The American Bandstand special was broadcast after the Apollo concert but that’s because it was on tape delay.
The 2002 curls have nothing on the Bad > HIStory curls and even the This Is It curls. I wish he never abandoned that look in the early 2000s.
I heard that he wore curls for the 2001 MSG show rehearsals before changing his hairstyle to the straight hair wig we saw; I hope we get to see footage of that in the Hamid Moslehi documentary he is supposedly making.
wonderouzmj;4321641 said:Wait hold up... this is my 1st time hearing of this doc!! I need some details!
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was this the last appearance of michael where he wear his curls like this at american bandstand 2002?
Snek;4321635 said:I heard that he wore curls for the 2001 MSG show rehearsals before changing his hairstyle to the straight hair wig we saw; I hope we get to see footage of that in the Hamid Moslehi documentary he is supposedly making.
mj_frenzy;4321653 said:That is not true because there are photos that show him rehearsing with his straight, short hairstyle and without wearing curls.
This suggests that he did not consider wearing curls for the two 2001 MSG shows.
Besides, at that time, Sony Music hired a team of designers and fashion experts with the mission of refreshing the singer’s image, while abandoning some of his old, stylistic trademarks and relics.
Sony Music wanted to present for the new millennium a new Michael Jackson, meaning that his curls (as one of his old, stylistic trademarks) had to be abandoned.
Even if he shot more music videos from his newly-released ‘Invincible’ album, he would not have worn his curls in those music videos (in order to comply with Sony Music’s orders at that time).
We don't really know that... - It's true they wanted to re-fresh his image (at least I've heard that before)
BUT - I really don't think MJ waqs the kind of person anyone said NO to og dictated to what he had to do. I have a feeling MJ was always in charge of things regarding his art - be it songs, albums, concerts, musicvideos etc. - I think MJ was in control and had the last say always.
If MJ had really wanted curld in 2001 I doubt SONY could have done anything about it.
We don't really know that... - It's true they wanted to re-fresh his image (at least I've heard that before)
BUT - I really don't think MJ waqs the kind of person anyone said NO to og dictated to what he had to do. I have a feeling MJ was always in charge of things regarding his art - be it songs, albums, concerts, musicvideos etc. - I think MJ was in control and had the last say always.
If MJ had really wanted curld in 2001 I doubt SONY could have done anything about it.
Hess;4321654 said:We don't really know that... - It's true they wanted to re-fresh his image (at least I've heard that before)
BUT - I really don't think MJ waqs the kind of person anyone said NO to og dictated to what he had to do. I have a feeling MJ was always in charge of things regarding his art - be it songs, albums, concerts, musicvideos etc. - I think MJ was in control and had the last say always.
If MJ had really wanted curld in 2001 I doubt SONY could have done anything about it.
mj_frenzy;4321762 said:That is not true because in many artistic decisions Michael Jackson unwillingly did what others told him to do, for example:
Sony Music forced him also to minimize the use of his hee's and hoo's in his new songs (on the ‘Invincible’ album), and as a result the singer used very few of them on that album.
rolerprod;4321768 said:can i get a source for that claim? never heard that before
dam2040;4321787 said:There’s several “Hoo” and before the vocals come in MJ does his trademark breaths in You Rock.
There are several instances of Michael’s trademark sounds all over Invincible. The idea he was forced to “abandon” them and not use them on the album is bullshit. Listen to the record.
If i recall correctly that was Rodney Jerkins idea not Sony. He said that in an interview that I can't remember at the moment. When I think about it, I can't remember if MJ ever used the Hee-Hees on Invincible. Did he do that?
Yeah he did
On what song/songs?
dam2040;4321835 said:Yes but my point was - some in this thread have said Sony made MJ stop and not use them.
If that’s the case why are they still all over the album?
dam2040;4321835 said:Yes but my point was - some in this thread have said Sony made MJ stop and not use them.
If that’s the case why are they still all over the album?
Maybe they tried but couldn't fully stop him. I don't think they would ask them removed after recording.