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I’m an ”after death” fan, but i like it here. I’ve learned a lot of things about Michael since i joined this community and i think it’s fascinating when here are people who really know about Michael and have been in his concerts. I really hope this community keeps going active for many decades at least. We gotta keep MJ’s legacy alive

Let’s treat each other with respect:)
 
miikasillanpaa said:
I’m an ”after death” fan, but i like it here. I’ve learned a lot of things about Michael since i joined this community and i think it’s fascinating when here are people who really know about Michael and have been in his concerts. I really hope this community keeps going active for many decades at least. We gotta keep MJ’s legacy alive

Let’s treat each other with respect:)
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AMEN
 
mj_frenzy said:
@michaelsson, there is no need to write your posts in bold.

You are not more important than the other members.

But a new release of an anniversary album is news in an online fan forum whose members/visitors are mostly die-hard fans who care about such releases.
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I’ve written my post like this for over 20 years. Long before you got here so get over it. Has nothing to do with importance and more to do with how I choose to communicate and show my personality. Your insecurities are showing. Deal with it.
 
michaelsson said:
I’ve written my post like this for over 20 years. Long before you got here so get over it. Has nothing to do with importance and more to do with how I choose to communicate and show my personality. Your insecurities are showing. Deal with it.
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Off topic but I have the best memories of seeing your signature as we all got excited for the shows.

Thanks for that trip down memory lane.. good times
 
dam2040 said:
Off topic but I have the best memories of seeing your signature as we all got excited for the shows.

Thanks for that trip down memory lane.. good times
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michaelsson said:
omg do you remember the hysteria? My god what a time We all had! I refuse to change it. 😭
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Aww , no guys, dont go there, I dont know whether to smile with happy memories or cry, cos you know, it was a count down
 
michaelsson said:
Same! A while back I went through our archives and read our old posts and threads….i was smiling so hard then I was hit with reality like damn… it’s really all over 😞
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A few years ago I found the June 25 page, where one minute everyone was talking concert prep and doing ticket swaps and then next, just , well you know. That was hard seeing the conversation change half way down the page.
 
michaelsson said:
What’s going on on this board? It’s so chaotic and extremely disrespectful. A lot of these new members and “fans”…like I can’t even. The amount of disrespect I see on here towards Michael is baffling. Where are the mods? Back in the day none of this would be happening. MJJC has never been one to silence opinions or shy away from criticism but lines have been crossed and no one is saying anything.

The number of random threads? Every single thought or idea or silly question you have doesn’t need to be a thread. This forum has been around for decades. Use the search function. Or the function that allows you to browse our old threads. Literally the information is at your fingertips. We don’t need a thread for everything.

This board is full of trolls and these new age fans running a muck and it has gotten out of hand. Where is Gaz, Soso, Mama Shannon? Somebody!? (Miss y’all)

I come and lurk and try not to post or engage because I know it’s not the same since Michael has left and I know a lot of us have moved on because things just arent the same. But sheesh this just can’t be the new normal. Something has got to give.

i truly miss our community. MJJC, MJNO, MJFC,MJNI, and all the other forums and fan communities back in the day it felt like…home. Now… idk what this has become.
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I agree with your sentiment about the abundance of unnecessary threads. However, I personally have not really seen disrespect towards Michael on this forum, and any comments that are usually get removed. Do you have any specific examples?
 
Thanks to everyone who contributed constructively to this thread. I will addressed a few points raised, but in the end it's a forum for the fans and by the fans. So it's our shared duty to keep the place clean and alive. Reporting inappropriate posts and then waiting for the moderator to take action is the right thing to do. Reacting to inappropriate posts, engaging in further name calling and personal attacks creates even more mess that often is impossible to clean.

Few topics raised -
1. Disrespectful comments towards Michael are absolutely not allowed. Please report and they will be deleted. Though there is a line between disrespectful comment and not agreeing with something Michael did as explained by one of the posts above.

2. Disrespectful comments towards other forum members are also not allowed. Calling other fans moron or other names is not ok. Learn to disagree respectfully, if something makes you too mad to function, disengage.

3. New threads - as already pointed out, there are many new fans here, probably more than pre-2009 fans. Their topics and questions may seem trivial to old time fans, but not to them. It's ok to create new threads. If you think there is a similar thread, you can attach it to new one, report for merging. There should be no bullying of new fans because they don't know something. Both new and old-time fans are important for the forum and I hope we can find a way to co-exist.

Once again, it's a forum for the fans and by the fans. So it's our shared duty to keep the place clean and alive. If you are bothered by trolling or disrespect on the forum, please first look at your own posts and see if you are adding to it. I believe most people here are in good faith, and if we each check ourselves, then the moderator can easily handle the few actually malicious elements.
 
I am also going to move this thread because posts from News and Discussion part of forum go directly to Facebook.
 
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Yes, undeniably there is a lot of hate and disrespect towards MJ and between fans. There needs to be better moderation. I left the main chat because it’s full of mean spirited fans that look for people to target. I’ve come across people in the community who appear to be a MJ fan but then talk trash on Michael or his work. And when you report stuff the mods don’t do anything. I had people forming a smear campaign and ganging up on me for blocking someone and they told me to leave the chat. It’s toxic and unwelcoming here and it really does need improvement. I messaged a mod weeks ago and they didn’t even bother to respond.

The newer fans have been the worst I’ve come across, especially the younger ones. I do think this site should be 18+. While I do love children and would like to include them, the vast majority here are adults.

A lot of fighting in forums and making drama public. Someone literally made a rude comment to me for showing them my Disney artwork in the Art forum and implied that I wouldn’t be successful at animation.

I was hoping for a loving and accepting community when I joined because that’s what Michael was all about. I’m disappointed to say the least.
 
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PrinceLucien said:
Yes, undeniably there is a lot of hate and disrespect towards MJ and between fans. There needs to be better moderation. I left the main chat because it’s full of mean spirited fans that look for people to target. I’ve come across people in the community who appear to be a MJ fan but then talk trash on Michael or his work. And when you report stuff the mods don’t do anything. I had people forming a smear campaign and ganging up on me for blocking someone and they told me to leave the chat. It’s toxic and unwelcoming here and it really does need improvement. I messaged a mod weeks ago and they didn’t even bother to respond.

The newer fans have been the worst I’ve come across, especially the younger ones. I do think this site should be 18+. While I do love children and would like to include them, the vast majority here are adults.

A lot of fighting in forums and making drama public. Someone literally made a rude comment to me for showing them my Disney artwork in the Art forum and implied that I wouldn’t be successful at animation.

I was hoping for a loving and accepting community when I joined because that’s what Michael was all about. I’m disappointed to say the least.
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I have already responded to your previous private message and checked the chat and reports etc. If you wish to discuss something else feel free to message. I do not see the harassment etc you are talking about from what you have reported.
 
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SmoothGangsta said:
I have already responded to your previous private message and checked the chat and reports etc. If you wish to discuss something else feel free to message. I do not see the harassment etc you are talking about from what you have reported.
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That’s because you would rather support them than me for whatever reason. There’s no community support here. I messaged you again weeks ago because I kept having issues and no response.

It is harassment for them to tell me to leave the chat and to talk trash about me in public and on forums. I literally have an apology from someone posted on my wall for their comments towards me. Bottom line is no one here cares about the members. I’ve been a fan for over 16 years, but I guess that doesn’t mean much when I haven’t been on MJJC for long…you would rather sweep it under the rug. But that’s fine, I’m used to that from people.
 
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PrinceLucien said:
That’s because you would rather support them than me for whatever reason. There’s no community support here. I messaged you again weeks ago because I kept having issues and no response.

It is harassment for them to tell me to leave the chat and to talk trash about me in public and on forums. I literally have an apology from someone posted on my wall for their comments towards me. Bottom line is no one here cares about the members. I’ve been a fan for over 16 years, but I guess that doesn’t mean much when I haven’t been on MJJC for long…you would rather sweep it under the rug. But that’s fine, I’m used to that from people.
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I'm not going to step in every time you have a small misunderstanding or disagreement with someone, which is the stuff you've been reporting. I've already told people to ignore each other if they can't get along.
 
As I already said, actually, I wasn't there, I don't know what happened. If there was any disrespect, like insults, etc., you should report it. Afterwards, the girls and I talked about other things; I didn't ask them what happened, and they didn't mention you (so, presumably, no harassment, at least I hope not). I agree with @SmoothGangsta.
 
It feels like a lot of fans are devoted to Michael Jackson the brand but not to Michael, the human and his philosophy.

They'll defend the estate, dismiss his children, and chase every new product, treating him like a trademark to be protected rather than a complex human to be understood.

But to truly honour him is to do what he asked, support his family, question the curated image, and seek his truth.

Anything less is fandom for a logo, not loyalty to the person...
 
It has always been the human for me

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