Hot topic What unreleased demos and remixes do you think will be on Thriller 40 Disc 2?

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ChanceToDance

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I truly hope we get songs like Victory, Remember This Night, Rolling The Dice, etc... But I think leaked songs like Hot Street and Nite Line are likely to take the spot.
 

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Well, according to the Legacy Recordings website it'll be "an exciting second disc full of surprises for fans including never-released tracks which were worked on by Michael for the Thriller album". So, I think it's safe to assume no post 1982 recordings on it.
 

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Well, according to the Legacy Recordings website it'll be "an exciting second disc full of surprises for fans including never-released tracks which were worked on by Michael for the Thriller album". So, I think it's safe to assume no post 1982 recordings on it.
Good point, but it's nice to imagine us getting songs like Buffalo Bill or the Peter Pan songs...

The demo of Behind the Mask would be great - as MJ left it.
It's not a bad idea, but we can pretty much hear how the demo sounds like in fan-made mixes on YT, I'd rather get The Toy if we get the demo of a song that's already released.
 

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Songs from that era the Estate could choose from

  • Hot Street
  • She's Trouble
  • Nightline
  • Got The Hots
  • Carousel
  • Starlight
  • Slapstick
  • Behind The Mask
  • Mystery
  • Roll The Dice
  • The Toy
  • Who Do You Know
  • Learned My Lesson
  • Much Too Soon
  • I Never Heard
  • Don't Matter To Me
  • Why Can't I Be
  • Somewhere In Time
  • This Is It (not to be confused with the posthumously renamed I Never Heard)
  • Under Your Skin
  • We Are The Ones
  • Nymphette Lover
 

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Songs from that era the Estate could choose from

  • Hot Street
  • She's Trouble
  • Nightline
  • Got The Hots
  • Carousel
  • Starlight
  • Slapstick
  • Behind The Mask
  • Mystery
  • Roll The Dice
  • The Toy
  • Who Do You Know
  • Learned My Lesson
  • Much Too Soon
  • I Never Heard
  • Don't Matter To Me
  • Why Can't I Be
  • Somewhere In Time
  • This Is It (not to be confused with the posthumously renamed I Never Heard)
  • Under Your Skin
  • We Are The Ones
  • Nymphette Lover
i dont think they'll chose behind the mask , much too soon , dont matter to me , this is it or the toy(best of joy).
all songs they already released before , i know there are different demo versions on each of these but i doubt they will actually release the same song twice
 

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No unheard songs, probably demos and the leaked thriller era material.
Doubt it, first of all we won't get both Hot Street and Slapstick (wouldn't make sense), so from Thriller Genesis there's:
- Nite Line
- Hot Street (or Slaptstick)
- Trouble

If we look at Bad 25 for comparison, there were 6 new tracks on there with 2 previously released tracks

Odds are it'll be similar and we'll get at least 3 new tracks
 

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Doubt it, first of all we won't get both Hot Street and Slapstick (wouldn't make sense), so from Thriller Genesis there's:
- Nite Line
- Hot Street (or Slaptstick)
- Trouble

If we look at Bad 25 for comparison, there were 6 new tracks on there with 2 previously released tracks

Odds are it'll be similar and we'll get at least 3 new tracks

I doubt the estate are gonna blow that many new tracks on an anniversary project again. They found B25 sales pretty disappointing. (Their own fault due to unrealistic expectations, but still).

Hopefully I'm wrong.
 

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I just find it very funny that this thread has been around since April 1 announcing a "special 2-disc anniversary edition", but somehow hardly anyone (at least not me) has noticed.
Probably this was the estates inspiration for such Thriller40 project. The very short time period since then would explain the lousy cover artwork.
 

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Probably this was the estates inspiration for such Thriller40 project. The very short time period since then would explain the lousy cover artwork.

Someone made it using an app on their phone, probably.
 

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Since this album will need fans interest to do well, I think they'll put at least 2 or 3 new songs on disc 2. I wouldn't blame them for releasing a few already leaked songs on disc 2, Slapstick, Starlight, Nite Line. The ones that haven't had an official release

I'd love to hear the original version of Behind The Mask. That would be a reason for me to purchase it alone

It will probably be similar to Bad 25, in that we won't hear songs finished and considered for Thriller, instead we'll hear demos Michael worked on in Havenhurst leading to Thriller
 

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It's hard to tell, but the Legacy announcement says: "an exciting second disc full of surprises for fans including never-released tracks which were worked on by Michael for the Thriller album".

I think it means only stuff from the recording sessions will make it. However, I wonder how that'll go down since Quincy owns most of it and also knowing most of the true unreleased stuff from this era are from 1983/84 (sessions with Freddie, Victory outtakes, Buffalo Bill, Rolling the Dice, etc).
 

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I just find it very funny that this thread has been around since April 1 announcing a "special 2-disc anniversary edition", but somehow hardly anyone (at least not me) has noticed.
Because that was not the original post. Someone made an april fools at first before anyone even knew about what's going to happen, so no one took it seriously
 

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No way to tell. Assuming Quincy is still at odds with them, there’s no chance we’re getting any of the songs he worked on, which would eliminate “Hot Street,” “She’s Trouble,” and “Nightline.” Plus, I’d imagine they’re using the same criteria as with Bad 25 (i.e., only considering songs that were recorded prior to the album’s release), meaning “Chicago 1945,” “Buffalo Bill,” the Peter Pan songs, and the Freddie Mercury songs aren’t gonna be considered.

“The Toy” and the “Behind the Mask” demo are both pretty likely; we’ve heard them already in varying forms. Anything else is a shot in the dark. All I hope is that there’s at least 50% new, unheard material.
 

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No way to tell. Assuming Quincy is still at odds with them, there’s no chance we’re getting any of the songs he worked on, which would eliminate “Hot Street,” “She’s Trouble,” and “Nightline.” Plus, I’d imagine they’re using the same criteria as with Bad 25 (i.e., only considering songs that were recorded prior to the album’s release), meaning “Chicago 1945,” “Buffalo Bill,” the Peter Pan songs, and the Freddie Mercury songs aren’t gonna be considered.

“The Toy” and the “Behind the Mask” demo are both pretty likely; we’ve heard them already in varying forms. Anything else is a shot in the dark. All I hope is that there’s at least 50% new, unheard material.

I would think Quincy was involved with Behind The Mask. So that leaves several possibilities for unheard tracks:

Why Can't I Be (We know this has vocals. Think it was mentioned in a deposition. Similar chords to The Girl Is Mine)
Somewhere in Time
Lovely Way
Under Your Skin
We Are The Ones
Nymphette Lover

Who Do You Know... This title seems like it could be demo to Behind The Mask?
 

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I truly hope we get songs like Victory, Remember This Night, Rolling The Dice, etc... But I think leaked songs like Hot Street and Nite Line are likely to take the spot.
Remember This Night is a registered song but I thought this might be with Paul McCartney? And I'm not even sure much was recorded of this? I'm thinking it was an song idea in 1981 when they worked on Say, Say, Say, The Man, and TGIM.
 

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I doubt the estate are gonna blow that many new tracks on an anniversary project again. They found B25 sales pretty disappointing. (Their own fault due to unrealistic expectations, but still).

Hopefully I'm wrong.
Back when B25 was released, it was back when people were still buying CDs. Now it's 2022, where streaming and vinyl are more popular than CDs. Even if the new songs arent on the LP, they can at least be streaming-only to satisfy the fans.
 

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I'm thinking disc 2 will collect some of the outtakes and demos that have surfaced so far plus new ones...something like:
  1. Hot Street
  2. Nite Line
  3. Carousel - full length
  4. She's Trouble
  5. Got The Hots
  6. Behind The Mask
  7. The Lady In My Life - Long Version
  8. Another unreleased long version
  9. new song
  10. new song
  11. new song
  12. Starlight - Demo
  13. The Girl is Mine - Solo Demo
  14. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) - Demo
  15. Wanna Be Startin' Somethn' - Demo
  16. Slapstick - Demo
On a side note I'd hope they would add the 12" mixes of Billie Jean and Wanna Be Startin' Somethin', Can't Get Outta The Rain and Someone In The Dark as bonus tracks on disc 1 to truly make the set definitive. They could fill up the space with great music.
 
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I would think Quincy was involved with Behind The Mask. So that leaves several possibilities for unheard tracks:

Why Can't I Be (We know this has vocals. Think it was mentioned in a deposition. Similar chords to The Girl Is Mine)
Somewhere in Time
Lovely Way
Under Your Skin
We Are The Ones
Nymphette Lover

Who Do You Know... This title seems like it could be demo to Behind The Mask?
Most of those were either made for Off The Wall or Triumph, I doubt the Estate would consider releasing those.
 

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If there had to be a remix....I'd want Bruno to do it. I could see him turn The Lady In My Life into something great. What if Bruno did verse 1 then you hear Michael sing the chorus and second verse that was cut from the song? That would be cool to hear....though they'd need to put the full length original on there as well.
 
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