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AlwaysThere said:
I’m suspecting that, given Porcaro’s recent comments that he’s been working on the song for a future release, there’s a full album planner for next year. That feels a lot more plausible than T40.
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Really? Is there a full album coming next year?
 
Honestly...I dont think & I hope it won't be a thriller 50, maybe 75 but.... its 5 other albums that the estate just doesn't care about & to me that is just ucked up!
 
Here's what I reckon

DISC ONE
  1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
  2. Baby be Mine
  3. The Girl is Mine
  4. Thriller
  5. Beat It
  6. Billie Jean
  7. Human Nature
  8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
  9. The Lady in My Life
DISC TWO
  1. Got the Hots
  2. Carousel
  3. Can't Get Outta the Rain
  4. Sunset Driver
  5. Nightline
  6. Someone in the Dark
  7. For All Time
  8. Roll the Dice
  9. Behind the Mask
  10. Say, Say, Say (Kygo Remix)
SUPER DELUXE (DIGITAL)
  1. Billie Jean (1981 Home Demo)
  2. Billie Jean (Long Version)
  3. Billie Jean (2008 Kanye West Mix (Thriller 25th Anniversary Remix)
  4. Beat It (Demo)
  5. Beat it (2008 Fergie Remix) (Thriller 25th Anniversary Remix)
  6. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Demo)
  7. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Tommy D's Main Mix)
  8. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (2008 with Akon) (Thriller 25th Anniversary Remix)
  9. Human Nature 7"
  10. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) (Demo)
  11. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) (2008 with will.i.am) (Thriller 25th Anniversary Remix)
  12. The Girl is Mine (2008 with will.i.am) (Thriller 25th Anniversary Remix)
  13. Thriller 7"
  14. Thriller (Def Thrill Mix)
  15. Thriller (Megamix)
 
As much I understand them releasing a few of the leaked tracks on Disc 2, I'd be disappointed if they include either Sunset Driver or Can't Get Outta the Rain on Disc 2.

For one both songs aren't really Thriller era and both were released during Michael's lifetime officially. I'd rather them include leaked demos of album tracks on Disc 2
 
ChrisC said:
Already released - the b-side to The Girl Is Mine and then again more recently on the expanded The Essential album.
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We know, they will still put it on CD 2 as one of the « rarities ».
 
Lotfi11k said:
They will release Chicago 1945 ???
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Probably will release that in 2045.
Dan said:
Here's what I reckon

DISC ONE
  1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
  2. Baby be Mine
  3. The Girl is Mine
  4. Thriller
  5. Beat It
  6. Billie Jean
  7. Human Nature
  8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
  9. The Lady in My Life
DISC TWO
  1. Got the Hots
  2. Carousel
  3. Can't Get Outta the Rain
  4. Sunset Driver
  5. Nightline
  6. Someone in the Dark
  7. For All Time
  8. Roll the Dice
  9. Behind the Mask
  10. Say, Say, Say (Kygo Remix)
SUPER DELUXE (DIGITAL)
  1. Billie Jean (1981 Home Demo)
  2. Billie Jean (Long Version)
  3. Billie Jean (2008 Kanye West Mix (Thriller 25th Anniversary Remix)
  4. Beat It (Demo)
  5. Beat it (2008 Fergie Remix) (Thriller 25th Anniversary Remix)
  6. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Demo)
  7. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Tommy D's Main Mix)
  8. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (2008 with Akon) (Thriller 25th Anniversary Remix)
  9. Human Nature 7"
  10. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) (Demo)
  11. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) (2008 with will.i.am) (Thriller 25th Anniversary Remix)
  12. The Girl is Mine (2008 with will.i.am) (Thriller 25th Anniversary Remix)
  13. Thriller 7"
  14. Thriller (Def Thrill Mix)
  15. Thriller (Megamix)
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I think this is a pretty good guess. My only change would be Roll The Dice. I'm guessing Why Can't I Be being there instead. That's also my guess for the one track that will be a surprise.
 
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Quotes from the press release from Monday:

... "exciting bonus CD of rarities and demos" ...
(regarding Disc 2)


..."15 additional tracks which have been in limited release previously"...
(regarding digital expanded Edition)


Got The Hots, Carousel, Can’t Get Outta The Rain, sunset driver, For All Time, Someone In The Dark:
ALL HAVE BEEN IN LIMITED RELEASE.
I don’t even know if you can call “limited release” on most of those.

Can’t Get Outta The Rain, sunset driver, For All Time:
Are not Thriller session songs, nor even Thriller era songs.

aaaaaand: Releasing a Dangerous song on Thriller25 was NOT the estate.
 
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The ‘Say Say Say’ remix genuinely sounds like a good song. True to its roots and hasn’t been butchered. Hope it gets released because it’s a perfect blend of genres
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
Quotes from the press release from Monday:

... "exciting bonus CD of rarities and demos" ...
(regarding Disc 2)


..."15 additional tracks which have been in limited release previously"...
(regarding digital expanded Edition)


Got The Hots, Carousel, Can’t Get Outta The Rain, sunset driver, For All Time, Someone In The Dark:
ALL HAVE BEEN IN LIMITED RELEASE.
I don’t even know if you can call “limited release” on most of those.

Can’t Get Outta The Rain, sunset driver, For All Time:
Are not Thriller session songs, nor even Thriller era songs.

aaaaaand: Releasing a Dangerous song on Thriller25 was NOT the estate.
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We already know the 15 digital edition songs though.
 
My dream tracklist for the 50th anniversay of Thriller (if possible):

Disc 01 - Original Album
01 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
02 Baby Be Mine
03 The Girl Is Mine
04 Thriller
05 Beat It
06 Billie Jean
07 Human Nature
08 P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
09 The Lady In My Life

Disc 02 - The Making Of Thriller
01 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [Demo]
02 Baby Be Mine [Demo]
03 The Girl Is Mine [Demo]
04 Starlight [Demo]
05 Beat It [Demo]
06 Billie Jean [Demo]
07 Human Nature [Demo]
08 P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) [Demo]
09 The Lady In My Life [Demo]
10 Got The Hots
11 Carousel
12 Hot Street
13 She's Trouble
14 Nite Line
15 Sunset Driver [Demo]
16 Behind The Mask [Demo]

Disc 03 - The Continuation Of Thriller
01 Say Say Say [John "Jellybean" Benitez Remix]
02 The Man [John "Jellybean" Benitez Remix]
03 Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin' (Too Good To Be True)
04 Somebody's Watching Me
05 Someone In The Dark
06 Be Not Always
07 State Of Shock [Demo]
08 Victory [Demo]
09 There Must Be More To Life Than This [Demo]
10 Love Never Felt So Good [Demo]
11 Don't Matter To Me [Demo]
12 This Is It [Demo]
13 Scared Of The Moon [Demo]
14 Centipede [Demo]
15 Eaten Alive [Demo]
16 We Are The World [Demo]

Disc 04 - 7" & 12" Single Versions
01 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [7" Edit]
02 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [7" Instrumental]
03 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [Extended 12" Mix]
04 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [12" Instrumental]
05 The Girl Is Mine [7" Version]
06 Can't Get Outta The Rain
07 Thriller [Special Edit]
08 Thriller [Remixed Short Version]
09 Thriller [Instrumental]
10 Beat It [12" Extended Mix]
11 Billie Jean [Original 12" Version]
12 Billie Jean [12" Instrumental]
13 Human Nature [7" Remix]
14 P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) [Instrumental]
15 The Lady In My Life [Uncut Version]

Disc 05 - Classic Remixes
01 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [Brothers In Rhythm House Mix]
02 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [Tommy D's Main Mix]
03 Thriller [Frankie Knuckles & David Morales Def Thrill Remix]
04 Beat It [Moby's Sub Mix]
05 Billie Jean [Four On The Floor Remix]
06 Billie Jean [Tony Moran's Luscious Vocal Mix]
07 Say Say Say [2015 Remix]
08 Thriller Megamix

Disc 06 - Live At The Victory Tour
01 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
02 Things I Do For You [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
03 Off The Wall [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
04 Human Nature [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
05 This Place Hotel (A.K.A. Heartbreak Hotel) [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
06 She's Out Of My Life [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
07 Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin' (Too Good To Be True) [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
08 I Want You Back / The Love You Save / I'll Be There [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
09 Rock With You [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
10 Lovely One [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
11 Workin' Day And Night [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
12 Beat It [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
13 Billie Jean [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
14 Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground) [Live At The Victory Tour 1984]
 
dam2040 said:
We already know the 15 digital edition songs though.
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Yes. And what are you implying?

The point I was trying to make is, that they specifically point out, that the 15 tracks of the digital expanded edition have been in limited release before.
More so even though the names of the 15 tracks were disclosed from the start.
 
I don't understand why some fans make the strange decision to put demos first and unreleased songs later in the tracklist, when most of the reissues logically do the opposite since they want people to stay listening, it is quite likely that after the album a person will be more interested in listening an unreleased song than a Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' demo that's basically the same as the original one they heard a few minutes ago.
 
FD1998 said:
The ‘Say Say Say’ remix genuinely sounds like a good song. True to its roots and hasn’t been butchered. Hope it gets released because it’s a perfect blend of genres
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Say Say Say remix will be on Thriller 40 or on Kygo's new album, but it's sure to be released soon since in addition to playing it live he also posted a preview on his instagram a few days ago.

Or maybe it's just a Thriller 40 promo song that won't be on the physical or digital edition like Steve Aoki's Thriller remix that has the same cover as Scream but isn't on any edition of that compilation.

I like the remix but if it's part of CD2 it's likely that they'll also put the original, so there will be less space for unreleased songs...
 
Has anybody mentioned the demo to Don't Matter To Me? Have to think that may be included here. It's "Thriller-era".
 
Derek1984 said:
Has anybody mentioned the demo to Don't Matter To Me? Have to think that may be included here. It's "Thriller-era".
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I’d like to hear it! I don’t love either of the released Anka songs (at least in their original states; the Xscape remixes of LNFSG and the Anka remix of TII are both wonderful), but I’m interested in hearing the actual song.
 
If they release demos they better release a third bonus disc then. We've had enough of demos, we want unheard material.
 
Leomax said:
I don't understand why some fans make the strange decision to put demos first and unreleased songs later in the tracklist, when most of the reissues logically do the opposite since they want people to stay listening, it is quite likely that after the album a person will be more interested in listening an unreleased song than a Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' demo that's basically the same as the original one they heard a few minutes ago.
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It's a common practice now. Just check the latest deluxe reissues of The Beatles, John Lennon, George Harrison, King Crimson, The Who and all other rock legends, they are all doing this. It's about showing the genesis of a classic album, new songs can definitely wait. After all, the targeted audience is mainly the hardcore fans. Hell, last year's John Lennon / Plasctic Ono Band contains 7 discs of different (but not so different) mixes of the entire album, and the fans don't even feel fatigued by them.
And don't you worry about hearing a demo after album versions regarding MJ songs, as his demos are usually radically different from finished version. It would be quite astonishing for fans to learn his rough demos can evolve into such polished songs rather than consider the listening experience a boredom (as this is the case for rock legends reissues).
 
Have you guys seen this:

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_40

Disc 1: Thriller
No.TitleWriter(s)Producer(s)Length
1."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"Michael Jackson6:02
2."Baby Be Mine"Rod TempertonJones4:20
3."The Girl Is Mine" (with Paul McCartney)Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
3:42
4."Thriller"TempertonJones5:57
5."Beat It"Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
4:18
6."Billie Jean"Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
4:54
7."Human Nature"Quincy Jones4:06
8."P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)"Jones3:59
9."The Lady in My Life"TempertonJones4:59
Disc 2: Bonus Material.
No.TitleLength
10."Hot Street"3:53
11."Got The Hots"4:28
12."Behind The Mask (Original Version)"4:58
13."Carousel"1:50
14."Starlight (Thriller Demo)"5:11
15."Can't Get Out of The Rain"4:06
16."Scared of The Moon"3:43
17."Sunset Driver (Demo)"4:04
18."Stand Tall"4:27
19."Spice of Life"3:41
Total length:40:21
Deluxe edition bonus tracks (Digital Only)
No.TitleWriter(s)Producer(s)Length
20."Billie Jean" (Home Demo from 1981)JacksonJackson2:20
21."Billie Jean (Long Version)"Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
6:20
22."Billie Jean 2008" (Kanye West Mix)Jackson4:35
23."Beat It" (Demo)JacksonJackson2:03
24."Beat It 2008" (with Fergie)Jackson4:11
25."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" (Demo)JacksonJackson5:43
26."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" (Tommy D's Main Mix)Jackson7:40
27."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008" (with Akon)
  • Jackson
  • Akon
  • Tuinfort
4:14
28."Human Nature" (7" Remix)Jones3:45
29."P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)" (Demo Version)Jackson3:46
30."P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) 2008" (with will.i.am)
  • Jackson
  • Phillinganes
  • Adams
  • Harris
  • Jackson
  • will.i.am
4:21
31."The Girl Is Mine 2008" (with will.i.am)
  • Jackson
  • will.i.am
3:10
32."Thriller" (7" Special Edit)TempertonJones4:37
33."Thriller" (Def Thriller Mix)Temperton7:22
34."Thriller Megamix"
  • Jackson
  • Temperton
  • Jones
  • Ingram
9:14
 
Dan said:
Have you guys seen this:

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_40

Disc 1: Thriller
No.TitleWriter(s)Producer(s)Length
1."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"Michael Jackson6:02
2."Baby Be Mine"Rod TempertonJones4:20
3."The Girl Is Mine" (with Paul McCartney)Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
3:42
4."Thriller"TempertonJones5:57
5."Beat It"Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
4:18
6."Billie Jean"Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
4:54
7."Human Nature"Quincy Jones4:06
8."P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)"Jones3:59
9."The Lady in My Life"TempertonJones4:59
Disc 2: Bonus Material.
No.TitleLength
10."Hot Street"3:53
11."Got The Hots"4:28
12."Behind The Mask (Original Version)"4:58
13."Carousel"1:50
14."Starlight (Thriller Demo)"5:11
15."Can't Get Out of The Rain"4:06
16."Scared of The Moon"3:43
17."Sunset Driver (Demo)"4:04
18."Stand Tall"4:27
19."Spice of Life"3:41
Total length:40:21
Deluxe edition bonus tracks (Digital Only)
No.TitleWriter(s)Producer(s)Length
20."Billie Jean" (Home Demo from 1981)JacksonJackson2:20
21."Billie Jean (Long Version)"Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
6:20
22."Billie Jean 2008" (Kanye West Mix)Jackson4:35
23."Beat It" (Demo)JacksonJackson2:03
24."Beat It 2008" (with Fergie)Jackson4:11
25."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" (Demo)JacksonJackson5:43
26."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" (Tommy D's Main Mix)Jackson7:40
27."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008" (with Akon)
  • Jackson
  • Akon
  • Tuinfort
4:14
28."Human Nature" (7" Remix)Jones3:45
29."P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)" (Demo Version)Jackson3:46
30."P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) 2008" (with will.i.am)
  • Jackson
  • Phillinganes
  • Adams
  • Harris
  • Jackson
  • will.i.am
4:21
31."The Girl Is Mine 2008" (with will.i.am)
  • Jackson
  • will.i.am
3:10
32."Thriller" (7" Special Edit)TempertonJones4:37
33."Thriller" (Def Thriller Mix)Temperton7:22
34."Thriller Megamix"
  • Jackson
  • Temperton
  • Jones
  • Ingram
9:14
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It's been removed due to lack of evidence, and I wish it's fake.
 
Dan said:
Have you guys seen this:

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_40

Disc 1: Thriller
No.TitleWriter(s)Producer(s)Length
1."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"Michael Jackson6:02
2."Baby Be Mine"Rod TempertonJones4:20
3."The Girl Is Mine" (with Paul McCartney)Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
3:42
4."Thriller"TempertonJones5:57
5."Beat It"Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
4:18
6."Billie Jean"Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
4:54
7."Human Nature"Quincy Jones4:06
8."P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)"Jones3:59
9."The Lady in My Life"TempertonJones4:59
Disc 2: Bonus Material.
No.TitleLength
10."Hot Street"3:53
11."Got The Hots"4:28
12."Behind The Mask (Original Version)"4:58
13."Carousel"1:50
14."Starlight (Thriller Demo)"5:11
15."Can't Get Out of The Rain"4:06
16."Scared of The Moon"3:43
17."Sunset Driver (Demo)"4:04
18."Stand Tall"4:27
19."Spice of Life"3:41
Total length:40:21
Deluxe edition bonus tracks (Digital Only)
No.TitleWriter(s)Producer(s)Length
20."Billie Jean" (Home Demo from 1981)JacksonJackson2:20
21."Billie Jean (Long Version)"Jackson
  • Jones
  • Jackson[a]
6:20
22."Billie Jean 2008" (Kanye West Mix)Jackson4:35
23."Beat It" (Demo)JacksonJackson2:03
24."Beat It 2008" (with Fergie)Jackson4:11
25."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" (Demo)JacksonJackson5:43
26."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" (Tommy D's Main Mix)Jackson7:40
27."Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008" (with Akon)
  • Jackson
  • Akon
  • Tuinfort
4:14
28."Human Nature" (7" Remix)Jones3:45
29."P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)" (Demo Version)Jackson3:46
30."P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) 2008" (with will.i.am)
  • Jackson
  • Phillinganes
  • Adams
  • Harris
  • Jackson
  • will.i.am
4:21
31."The Girl Is Mine 2008" (with will.i.am)
  • Jackson
  • will.i.am
3:10
32."Thriller" (7" Special Edit)TempertonJones4:37
33."Thriller" (Def Thriller Mix)Temperton7:22
34."Thriller Megamix"
  • Jackson
  • Temperton
  • Jones
  • Ingram
9:14
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It's no point releasing the butchered version of Carousel again as if the near complete version hasn't already been released back in 2008. The absence of Nite Line, She's Trouble and The Lady In My Life (Uncut version) to be in favor of an Off The Wall era track and two The Ultimate Collection demos is absolutely nonsense to me.
 
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