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What would u ask murray on stand?

cinzia said:
Would you take a lie detector test, if not, why not?
Why did you let your Board certification lapse?
Are you an anesthesiologist? Have you any training in the use of anesthetic agents? Then why did you agree to do something you knew you weren't trained to do?

Having decided to do this insanely dangerous thing, why on earth didn't you at least have monitoring and life saving equipment and a trained assistant?

If you were giving him propofol as often as you have said, where were the IV sites? In his legs? Arms? where?

Do you feel in anyway responsible for the death of Michael Jackson?

Do you think you were practicing good medicine?

Where did you finish in medical school? Top half, bottom half, where?

Do you usually let your patients dictate to you how they should be treated, with what medicines and in what locales? or do you at some point remember you are a doctor sworn to do no harm who should be managing them, taking care of them, doing your utmost to ensure a positive outcome?

Based on your many versions of the truth, why should we believe one word issuing forth from your lying mouth?


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Very interesting questions.
 
cinzia said:
Would you take a lie detector test, if not, why not?
Why did you let your Board certification lapse?
Are you an anesthesiologist? Have you any training in the use of anesthetic agents? Then why did you agree to do something you knew you weren't trained to do?

Having decided to do this insanely dangerous thing, why on earth didn't you at least have monitoring and life saving equipment and a trained assistant?

If you were giving him propofol as often as you have said, where were the IV sites? In his legs? Arms? where?

Do you feel in anyway responsible for the death of Michael Jackson?

Do you think you were practicing good medicine?

Where did you finish in medical school? Top half, bottom half, where?

Do you usually let your patients dictate to you how they should be treated, with what medicines and in what locales? or do you at some point remember you are a doctor sworn to do no harm who should be managing them, taking care of them, doing your utmost to ensure a positive outcome?

Based on your many versions of the truth, why should we believe one word issuing forth from your lying mouth?


The more I write, the more hostile I feel.....!!!
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We all want to know that, great questions.

But the lie detector is not a trust-able source. Some liars can pass that test, and some people get so nervous about it that the machine say they're lying about their own names, so is not precise.

StacyJ said:
I would also like to know if Murray did a physical exam on MJ. For instance, blood work, urine samples, blood pressure checks, cholesterol and weight. Did he even do any of this before he started pumping MJ with loads of sedatives and propofol?

And another question would be if he felt MJ had a sleep disorder, why didn't he refer MJ to a sleep specialist?
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Absolutely.
 
I would ask the same question Michael did in his song"(We Already) Had Enough!!"
Why did you do it ? You're supposed to be his Doctor to help him stop his dependency on certain Medications.Why Kill Your Meal Ticket ? You owe alot of people money.Tell the court why ? You know your Baby Momma will be known as an accomplace for distribution of a drug that is only used in an operation room setting and you know as a doctor that The patient should be properly monitored with Breathing and Heart Monitors. where was the equpitment in question in his room ?.Why did you leave him in the room by himself without asking the guard or someone to watch him while you where supposedly going to the bathroom or was stepping out of the room to talk to people,Why did you ask your personel in Houston and Las Vegas to get rid of the remaining Medicines that might have killed your patient and when The Patient was not responding to you(Because he had already passed),Why Do CPR on the bed when the patient was supposed to be on a hard surface and asked did the Guard know CPR when You're supposed to be a Cardiologist ? How long have you've been practicing As a Cardiologist ? Why when you met your patient that you pretended to be a Pediatrician to Your patient's Children when you are only supposed to be a Cardiologist ?
Who really Hired You ? Why did you try to hide the evidence in question and Told half truths about what you've given your patient and what you did or didnot do to help a man in destress? You also know he was physically wearing down,Even in the movie TII,He was shown with a Oxygen tank and Mask.Why didn't you stop the rehearsal and request a couple of days of rest for your patient when he was going through these changes? Why did you tell Ortega that Nothing is wrong with The Patient, He's fine when Ortega spotted something very wrong with his Star? And Just off the record Why did you tell The Police that your patient Killed himself just to see if you can get off the hook for killing your patient,Accidently or otherwise?

I'm happy his practice is suspended so he would not do this to anyone else. And those People who was shown to be his patients was said by a Newsnetwork to be Paid actors to make Murder Murray look good in the eyes of the Public.
Now lets go put this man where he belongs,In Jail. Pray for a bigger sentence than Involuntary Manslaughter.After all the Evidence and Testimony being said and presented.He is truly a Straightup Murderer.
There's Nothing that can be done if we lift our voice as ONE.
 
I wouldn't want to even be in the same room as him..............


A doctor is a person you trust to save lives............not take them away!!!!
 
I wouldnt ask him anything, id just slap him
 
no i would not slap him, michael is looking down, would you believe he agreed to that?????????????


I would ask him if michael was not feeling well, what did you diagnose and DO about it?> besisede pumping him full of wrong meds
 
I hope there aren't too many great questions here that could possibly help the defense by giving them a heads up of what to expect, or something to snatch and turn around.

If any of you really have any highly thoughtful, sharp questions that could be useful or turned around by the defense, I would advise to send them to the prosecutors in this case instead.

But then, the prosecution isn't going so far in this case, but by the bare minimum (or that's what I believe so far based on the prelim), so I don't even know if we can trust them. I don't like catch 22's......however, there are ways out of them.

However, if the question is of something that absolutely cannot be turned around or manipulated by defense, then I think that's fine to share.

Low isn't the only good lawyer murray has. Ed Chernoff can't be stupid based on his history in his profession.
 
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@kasume thats a bit rid. because we can say here what we want.. do you really believe they will come here and steal questions they can think of themself..

its about expressing yourself in a forum to murray.. because you cant prop in real life..
 
Ingelief said:
@kasume thats a bit rid. because we can say here what we want.. do you really believe they will come here and steal questions they can think of themself..

its about expressing yourself in a forum to murray.. because you cant prop in real life..
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Yes, we can say what we want. But before the acutal trial even commences, we have to be careful not to unwillingly benefit the defense.

Absolutely. I believe murray supporters come here.

Whether they can explore deep enough and come up with every exact question that arises in all our heads, I can't say for sure whether they can or cannot do that. And I know that many of you all can't be sure on that as well.

And there's the problem, while murrays people are at this board, there's no knowing whether the prosecution will even ask our questions in court, whether they are even looking that deep. I'm telling you all, if you really have any good questions, please send it to the prosecution, or the D.A. (but that's a whole other thing).

We have a murder case here. Someone is OBVIOUSLY hiding something, or lacking in their ability to know what a murder looks and feels like.
 
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im sorry but i think thats rid.. there more threads that than even would be better for them.. and like the staff is not closing anything... i hope people will react here and say there stuff
 
I have alot of questions I'd ask but I don't think he'd answer truthfully. Soem of the questions would be:

Did you try to get Michael help for his sleep other than prescribing drugs?
why didn't you buy the proper equipment at anytime during the weeks you were allegedly giving him propofol?
why did you leave him alone?
why ddin't you call for help as soon as you saw him in distress?
why did you refuse to sign the death certificate?
would you recommend propofol for soemone having trouble sleeping?
what did you take it upon yourself as a cardiologist to administer anesthesia?
 
Ingelief said:
im sorry but i think thats rid.. there more threads that than even would be better for them.. and like the staff is not closing anything... i hope people will react here and say there stuff
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I'm not trying to PREVENT anyone from saying anything. I'm just saying be aware.

The prosecution is not going all the way, so what we say could very much help murray's defense.

If I were a murray supporter/someone from murray's defense, threads like this one, is what I would target to somehow get ideas, manipulate/turn everything around for him during trial. That's why I'm saying, be cautious. And I would definately creep in on the conspiracy forum as well.

However, what can't be turned around is much of the medical aspect of this investigation. It is just like Newton's laws of nature, can't go against it.

The staff does not need to close anything even if we are helping the defense. Like you said, we are free to discuss whatever involving this case.

But just like the defense has asked three or four questions (or maybe even more) that could VERY WELL help the prosecution. We can do the same as well, and help the defense.


moulin rouge, the answers after is what I think he would say, or my actual response.
Did you try to get Michael help for his sleep other than prescribing drugs? He did say he stopped the drugs at some point during that night and told Michael to meditate....
why did you leave him alone? He said it was to go to the bathroom and Michael was asleep. We won't get any other answer unless he changes it.
why ddin't you call for help as soon as you saw him in distress? What kind of help? Security or 911. At prelim, murray said he didn't call 911 right away because he was caring for his patient and didn't want to interrupt that care. If he called 911, they would interfere with his care by asking him what the situation was all about.
what did you take it upon yourself as a cardiologist to administer anesthesia? This question is a little broad. Are you talking about from the beginning before murray was hired by whoever? Or AFTER murray was hired? From the prelim, it was mentioned that he said, "I didn't sign up for this."
 
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He did sign up for this once he agreed to do it. Unless Michael held a gun to his head Murray was not forced to do anyhting. He willingling administered propofol to michael and not jsut once, he was it was over a 6 week period.

He called for help long afetr he noticed Michael in disress. When help came instead of calling the paramedics he ordered for viled to be hid, this man makes me sick he didn't care about Michael at all. It's sad Michael trusted to have this guy in his home.
 
Moulin Rouge said:
He did sign up for this once he agreed to do it. Unless Michael held a gun to his head Murray was not forced to do anyhting. He willingling administered propofol to michael and not jsut once, he was it was over a 6 week period.

He called for help long afetr he noticed Michael in disress. When help came instead of calling the paramedics he ordered for viled to be hid, this man makes me sick he didn't care about Michael at all. It's sad Michael trusted to have this guy in his home.
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Yes he sure did... he knew what he was doing. He bought vials of propofol in March and April so he definitely signed up for it. He consciencely had it sent to his girlfriends house so he can't start playing dumb. If he didn't sign up for it, why was he doing it? He could've easily said No Mike this isn't a good idea, but he continued on.
 
Moulin Rouge said:
He did sign up for this once he agreed to do it. Unless Michael held a gun to his head Murray was not forced to do anyhting. He willingling administered propofol to michael and not jsut once, he was it was over a 6 week period.

He called for help long afetr he noticed Michael in disress. When help came instead of calling the paramedics he ordered for viled to be hid, this man makes me sick he didn't care about Michael at all. It's sad Michael trusted to have this guy in his home.
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Let me clarify this. There's many pages of notes from prelim so I have to recheck because my rememberance of who said this was a bit vague.

In court, it was during Orlando Martinez's testimony, Chernoff said Orlando left out a lot of the discussion between Orlando and murray. Chernoff was referring to the transcript of the interview Orlando left out. He brought up that murray told orlando during his interview that he did not sign up for this, regarding giving Michael propofol.

So I guess he didn't know he was going to be giving propofol until AFTER he was hired by whoever....

I have doubts about administering the drug during that entire six week period. Based on testimony, it sounds odd, but I don't want to get into that right now.
 
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kasume said:
Let me clarify this. There's many pages of notes from prelim so I have to recheck because my rememberance of who said this was a bit vague.

In court, it was during Orlando Martinez's testimony, Chernoff said Orlando left out a lot of the discussion between Orlando and murray. Chernoff was referring to the transcript of the interview Orlando left out. He brought up that murray told orlando during his interview that he did not sign up for this, regarding giving Michael propofol.

So I guess he didn't know he was going to be giving propofol until AFTER he was hired by whoever....

I have doubts about administering the drug during that entire six week period. Based on testimony, it sounds odd, but I don't want to get into that right now.
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So when Murray bought it and sent it to his girlfriends' house who did he think would be administering it?
 
kasume said:
Let me clarify this. There's many pages of notes from prelim so I have to recheck because my rememberance of who said this was a bit vague.

In court, it was during Orlando Martinez's testimony, Chernoff said Orlando left out a lot of the discussion between Orlando and murray. Chernoff was referring to the transcript of the interview Orlando left out. He brought up that murray told orlando during his interview that he did not sign up for this, regarding giving Michael propofol.

So I guess he didn't know he was going to be giving propofol until AFTER he was hired by whoever....

I have doubts about administering the drug during that entire six week period. Based on testimony, it sounds odd, but I don't want to get into that right now.
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And do you believe him? I don't, what did he think he was going to do with the propofol, watch it, pout it down the sink? He then admitted that he gave it to him over a 6 week period after not mentioning it at all, he was coherent and knew exactly what he was doing.

My biggest problem is that he knew as a doctor that misusing drugs is dangerous yet he didn't even have the proper equipment. If you are going to do somethign as ineffective and dangerous as what he did at least have the wupiment to monitor his breathing and resuscitation equipment like an EKG, i'm still baffled that as a cardiologist he didn't have an EKG and as a doctor he didn't have his patients address written down in case of an emergency. He had enough money to try to impress his many ladies but he couldn't take a day off to buy his patient the proper equipment?

Just imagine if he had the equipment to monitor Michael's breathing and he did leave the room or wasn't paying attention he would have been warned when Michael's breathing decreased. Or when Michael went into cardic arrest if there was an EKG present he most likely would have survived. The brain can not go without oxygen for more than 10 minutes yet Murray watched like an hour before calling for help, Michael was long gone and even if he didn't die he would be a vegetable. Michael died because of Murray's foolishness.
 
Yes, I agree that murray is lying in that courtroom.

But we don't know when one truth is mixed with a bunch of lies. Or one lie is mixed with all the truth. This is one factor which makes this mystery a bit complex. So what we have to do is figure out this ten thousand piece puzzle and find what fits together.

StaceyJ, I think you mistakened me, or I'm not so clear?

murray really could have taken the job without knowing he was going to be administering propofol, and then found out AFTER he signed up. That may be what he meant by not signing up for that, like taking on a task without initially agreeing to.
 
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guys after reading some posts I wanted to ask something

do you realize that it's not for certain that Murray would take the stand and that DA/prosecution cannot call Murray to the stand?
 
ivy said:
guys after reading some posts I wanted to ask something

do you realize that it's not for certain that Murray would take the stand and that DA/prosecution cannot call Murray to the stand?
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totally doubt that Murray would take the stand...the prosecution would rip him apart....he would have to answer all of those tough questions ..that he has been trying to avoid. Who knows......maybe.he would break and we would finally get the truth.
 
xthunderx2 said:
totally doubt that Murray would take the stand...the prosecution would rip him apart....he would have to answer all of those tough questions ..that he has been trying to avoid. Who knows......maybe.he would break and we would finally get the truth.
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I hope they would rip him apart....with their silly IM case....I'd be surprised if they do. Once the truthful and just charges come, then I will start trusting the prosecution. Right now, I don't. When nancy grace even thinks the charges are low against Michael, you know something's wrong.

ps: I know I'm posting here a lot all of a sudden, but that's because I was prohibited from the case section about two days before the prelim last month for thirty days, in case anyone's thinking I just mysteriously charged in here for some reason.
 
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Thank you very much ivy, I know you are welcome to have me back.
 
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I don't expect to see Murray on the witness stand at all.. He know he has absolutely no excuse for what he gave MJ and the fact that he wasn't monitoring him and had no equipment is insane.. He will not set foot on that stand.
 
Unless he has to if the prosecution really wants to nag him, lays something sharp and unexpected on him, and murrays lawyers can't turn to the past transcripts or other witnesses for defense, as what they did during the prelim.
 
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ivy said:
guys after reading some posts I wanted to ask something

do you realize that it's not for certain that Murray would take the stand and that DA/prosecution cannot call Murray to the stand?
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yes, was the title changed or the thread merged because i thought it was just what would you ask murray. If not my mistake i responding as to what i would ask him. If he does to stand the defense are of course not going to ask him the probing questions that should be asked. This is all so aggravating, if he is found not guilty i will be pissed.
 
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