Where did this came from? / Love letter from Michael to????

Well, reading this letter again I found a mistake in trascript which was posted in the beginning.

The tanscript was was posted is: "I believe in faith deep inside I believe heaven has bounded us."

The correct trascript in my opinion will be: "I believe in faith deep inside. I feel that nature has bounded us "

It sounds very different from the first one... ;)

This is what I see. It is very obvious I think that one word you can read as "feel" and another one is "nature" on the original document.

Yeah I saw that too. Also I think Michael meant "fate" when he wrote "faith", it makes more sense esp. with the sentence following it (about nature binding them). Is "bounded" even a word btw? Cause I checked my irregular verbs sheet from high school (just to be sure :D) and it said bind - bound - bound? Or did Michael mean something else? I'm confused now lol.
 
Yeah I saw that too. Also I think Michael meant "fate" when he wrote "faith", it makes more sense esp. with the sentence following it (about nature binding them). Is "bounded" even a word btw? Cause I checked my irregular verbs sheet from high school (just to be sure :D) and it said bind - bound - bound? Or did Michael mean something else? I'm confused now lol.

There is nothing to be confused about.
bounded past participle, past tense of bound (Verb) - the firts line from google :)
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=...g3g-s1g6&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=3d7c11492c36604

Yeah, it could be fate not faith but it was spelled as faith in original so we have to take as it is lol

As more I read this letter as more it sounds like it was adressed to LMP some time right after Blanket was born imo and Lisa was going back and forth with her new "soulmates/husbands".


Edited: Ok some more corrections. I think putting coma as it appears in original makes a big difference too:

"I believe in faith, deep inside I feel that nature has bounded us "

The meaning slightly changed imo.
 
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There is nothing to be confused about.
bounded past participle, past tense of bound (Verb) - the firts line from google :)
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=...g3g-s1g6&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=3d7c11492c36604

Well now I'm even more confused tbh :lol: It says:


bound

intr.v. bound·ed, bound·ing, bounds
1. To leap forward or upward; spring.
2. To progress by forward leaps or springs.
3. To bounce; rebound.

So how does that relate to nature and them? I still don't get it lol.
 
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So how does that relate to nature and them? I still don't get it lol.
Cut Michael some slack lol! We all know what a great speller he was. And he was trying really hard with this letter. :wub:
 
Well now I'm even more confused tbh :lol: It says:


bound



Well, the correct spelling should be bonded without "U" I guess and Michael made a mistake.:lol: But there is another verb with the same meaning which is "bind".Bounded is an adjective my dictionary says.
English is not my first language, so do not ask me more than that pls :lol:

Look at this: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/s...=bound&_searchBtn=Search&contentVersion=WORLD


No matter what the main meaning will be "tie or fasten something thogether" imo. This is what I think.
I hope it helps.
 
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Cut Michael some slack lol! We all know what a great speller he was. And he was trying really hard with this letter. :wub:

Haha I know, I wasn't criticizing him or anything, just trying to understand what he meant. I think his little spelling mistakes are cute :)

@ Asedora, yeah that's what I thought the meaning was too.
 
Haha I know, I wasn't criticizing him or anything, just trying to understand what he meant. I think his little spelling mistakes are cute :)

@ Asedora, yeah that's what I thought the meaning was too.

In the end it looks like the letter is real not fake?
 
In the end it looks like the letter is real not fake?

Yeah I think the letter is real, I only have 2 questions about it:

1. We don't know to whom it is written (and I personally doubt it's for LMP or Rushka)
2. We don't know when it's written.. could be 20 years ago for all we know. Some people seem to think it has to relatively recent due to the "4th child" reference, but this might only be symbolical. Maybe he just means to say he wants lots of children with this woman, or maybe 'having 4 kids' is something they talked about earlier, it doesn't have to be taken literally. Same goes for the "wife" reference, he may see her as his wife even though they were never officially married.

Bottom line is: we don't have a clue when or why this was written and I doubt we will ever find out ;) And maybe it's better that way too.
 
Yeah I think the letter is real, I only have 2 questions about it:

1. We don't know to whom it is written (and I personally doubt it's for LMP or Rushka)
2. We don't know when it's written.. could be 20 years ago for all we know. Some people seem to think it has to relatively recent due to the "4th child" reference, but this might only be symbolical. Maybe he just means to say he wants lots of children with this woman, or maybe 'having 4 kids' is something they talked about earlier, it doesn't have to be taken literally. Same goes for the "wife" reference, he may see her as his wife even though they were never officially married.

Bottom line is: we don't have a clue when or why this was written and I doubt we will ever find out ;) And maybe it's better that way too.
Well, like I said before it should not be a mystery. If we assume that the letter is real we have to take as it is, to start getting some clues.
If we take it as it is, it is only can be applied to LMP imo. I know , not too many ppl will agree with me but that's OK :)
It fits the situation and the context imo. Like I said before it probably never have been sent to her, because IF it was it would not be on the net.
I believe personally that Michael had his "ups" and "downs" to Lisa. This is how this letter was born maybe imo.
Why it could be applied only to LMP in my opinion? Because they got divorced and Lisa loved him. It is a fact. Then when he felt lonely and nobody was around, he probably was hurting and he wanted somebody around him and his feelings to Lisa got refreshed at one moment. Probably after this, it was the same again because nothing happened as we know.
Or maybe when she started bugging him sending letters, he did not answer back. Michael had a very sensitive soul and mixed feelings about Lisa imo. So it is a normal behavior when you are not sure. Probably when Lisa was trying to contact him it closed his heart again for any contacts while "his soul was hurt and his mind was confused". Hard to say. Michael was not an easy person. But this is what I think.
About the last line.... well assuming if it was not added I think it fits LMP only because from Shmuley book we know that the only one person he wanted to have children with was Lisa but sadly it did not work out. This marriage in general did not work out but he had some moments I guess when he was trying to catch up his past with Lisa, probably only in his mind and this is what I personally feel from this letter.

I do not think that the line "i STILL see you as my soulmate, as my wife....." we can take as a symbolic thing. We take it as it is or we can assume that it was added. Regarding to Lisa it fits the context imo.

This is what Lisa said after he passed. Read carefully. I think it gives more clues that the letter could be addressed to her:


Lisa also said this about the marriage when she received news of his death:

Our relationship was not 'a sham' as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a 'normal life' found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much. As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play The exact scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted. Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him. He was an amazing person and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years that we had together. I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now. He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place or will be. I also hope that anyone else who feels they have failed to help him can be set free because he hopefully finally is. The world is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.

Looks like she was upset at him till his death.
According to what Karen F said after MJ passed, he had no secret girlfriend. I know many ppl hate Karen but at this point I would believe her. Yes, he was socializing with fans and such after 2005 but it does not mean anything imo.
I am not LMP fan cos she said so many bad things about him but I am trying to be more realistic and more logical here.
There is always some mystery around Michael but I do not think this letter is the case. Just saying... .
 
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well Karen wasn't working for Michael during 05-09 so I don't think that she'll know anything about that time. Plus she said that no girlfriend came to the rehearsals - I get that as she wouldn't know who is coming to the house. Also she really bad mouths Rushka - and that generally means that she has a reason to be jealous of her IMO. :)
 
well Karen wasn't working for Michael during 05-09 so I don't think that she'll know anything about that time. Plus she said that no girlfriend came to the rehearsals - I get that as she wouldn't know who is coming to the house. Also she really bad mouths Rushka - and that generally means that she has a reason to be jealous of her IMO. :)

Really? What did she say? I need to be more informed about this kinda stuff lol, I feel like I'm missing out :p
 
about the girlfriends

I never saw any "girlfriends" around him during the last 4 months I worked with him.I was not with him 24/7. I can't confirm

then about Rushka

Q= Karen, do you know if Rushka Bergman was a friend of Michael?
A = LOL...all BS. She brought the clothes to him for the L'uomo Vogue shoot. Then brought him all those Balmain jackets on TII

she had other tweets/ posts saying similar things that she was only making him buy those over priced clothes etc.
 
about the girlfriends

I never saw any "girlfriends" around him during the last 4 months I worked with him.I was not with him 24/7. I can't confirm

then about Rushka

Q= Karen, do you know if Rushka Bergman was a friend of Michael?
A = LOL...all BS. She brought the clothes to him for the L'uomo Vogue shoot. Then brought him all those Balmain jackets on TII

she had other tweets/ posts saying similar things that she was only making him buy those over priced clothes etc.

I did not find anything bad about KF answer. So she said, all BS. So what? She did not see Rushka as a friend of him. What is big deal, i do not see her as a friend of him either. Yes she brought clothes to him...that's all and Karen is right here imo... .
Rushka imo does not fit into the context of this letter because he is talking there about "YEARS" of broken relationships. He met Rushka in 2007 and they never broke up and she did not escape anywhere, it is quite opposite. :lol: This is just my opinion.

And I believe too that those jackets ( i do no really like them) could be over priced. I do not know for sure but it would not surprise me one bit.

Thank you for shearing what Karen said about Rushka. Good to know.
 
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If it's not fake, it's for Lisa.

Everybody knows that.

But I think, it's a very good fake.
 
For those of you who keep saying it was for Lisa ask yourself this question. Thanks to that loser rabbi we know that Lisa made it more then clear that she would do just about anything Michael wanted if he took her back and he never did. If he really felt this way about Lisa like the letter says why didn't he take her back? Actions speak louder then words people. I don't who this letter was for or if it was real or fake but I think some of you are trying to make your preferences Michael's preferences. And if you were a woman who was in the zip code Michael was Karen hated on you
 
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So while Lisa was bitching about MJ on various shows, MJ was writing love letters to her? Some of you people need to get a grip - Michael had a pure private life that none of us here know anything about. I know it may be difficult to come to terms with for some of us, but it's true!

So, this letter could have been written for one out of a number of women who he has been involved with.
 
For those of you who keep saying it was for Lisa ask yourself this question. Thanks to that loser rabbi we know that Lisa made it more then clear that she would do just about anything Michael wanted if he took her back and he never did. If he really felt this way about Lisa like the letter says why didn't he take her back? Actions speak louder then words people. I don't who this letter was for or if it was real or fake but I think some of you are trying to make your preferences Michael's preferences. And if you were a woman who was in the zip code Michael was Karen hated on you


yup you are right about Karen...she sure did hate....:mad:
 
Well,I am not a Lisa's fan, not at all. I do not really care. I want the truth and I try to think logically without any preferences from my side.
Rushka simply does NOT fit the context. Rushka did not go anywhere…and this comes from her own Rushka’s article. We do not even need to guess here.
This letter points to YEARS of relationships and describes a person who LEFT him or something else happened. This is very clear and cannot be denied or ignored.

Some of ppl on this board are so easy to believe in some secret girlfriends existence and any fan fiction created by ppl with very rich imagination..
I better believe some facts from ppl who worked for Michael: Bodyguards, Karen atc... .
You can take some of facts with grain of salt, it is up to you, but pls be realistic.
This letter could be fake or it could be addressed only to one person: LMP. Yes, she said this and that about him but it does not mean that he hated her and did not have any feelings to her. He had mixed "up and down" feeling to Lisa. This is what I think.
He maybe never sent this letter.
If somebody have better ideas to whom this litter could be addressed I would be more than happy to know some more details.



yup you are right about Karen...she sure did hate....:mad:

I am nobody to judge Karen. She did not give me an impression of being insane or crazy. She probably just wanted to protect him from bunch of Billie Jeans trying to approach him. She worked for him for 30 years and it is normal if she did it. Who would not?
 
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :unsure:

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Well,I am not a Lisa's fan, not at all. I do not really care. I want the truth and I try to think logically without any preferences from my side.
Rushka simply does NOT fit the context. Rushka did not go anywhere…and this comes from her own Rushka’s article. We do not even need to guess here.
This letter points to YEARS of relationships and describes a person who LEFT him or something else happened. This is very clear and cannot be denied or ignored.

Some of ppl on this board are so easy to believe in some secret girlfriends existence and any fan fiction created by ppl with very rich imagination..
I better believe some facts from ppl who worked for Michael: Bodyguards, Karen atc... .
You can take some of facts with grain of salt, it is up to you, but pls be realistic.
This letter could be fake or it could be addressed only to one person: LMP. Yes, she said this and that about him but it does not mean that he hated her and did not have any feelings to her. He had mixed "up and down" feeling to Lisa. This is what I think.
He maybe never sent this letter.
If somebody have better ideas to whom this litter could be addressed I would be more than happy to know some more details.





I am nobody to judge Karen. She did not give me an impression of being insane or crazy. She probably just wanted to protect him from bunch of Billie Jeans trying to approach him. She worked for him for 30 years and it is normal if she did it. Who would not?


It was not her place to protect Michael from anyone. It was her place to do his makeup she could not even to that right.
 
can anyone help me to contact the newspaper or the source of this letter ..i want to buy it and i'm very much committed to the person's privacy!

please if anyone can help put me on the phone with the girl cuz i'm very much ready to pay her any (reasonable) amount of money she wants only with one condition: i want the complete and origenal letter !

thanx .
 
i think the letter is not for Lisa, i think it's more recent...and it doesn't matter who the girl is, i hope the letter is true and michael did find a soul mate...i don't care who she is..
 
Some of ppl on this board are so easy to believe in some secret girlfriends existence and any fan fiction created by ppl with very rich imagination..
I better believe some facts from ppl who worked for Michael: Bodyguards, Karen atc... .
You can take some of facts with grain of salt, it is up to you, but pls be realistic.
This letter could be fake or it could be addressed only to one person: LMP.

Well, it seems as though you just find it hard to believe that Michael had an actual private private-life that the public at large, no matter how much they loved him, knew next to nothing about...

This letter could be about a woman that we don't know and never heard of. And it's probably not Lisa.

Why is that impossible for some of you to accept? That he could have had someone that we never heard of?

I guess you girls just need to stop thinking obsessively.
 
Well, it seems as though you just find it hard to believe that Michael had an actual private private-life that the public at large, no matter how much they loved him, knew next to nothing about...

This letter could be about a woman that we don't know and never heard of. And it's probably not Lisa.

Why is that impossible for some of you to accept? That he could have had someone that we never heard of?

I guess you girls just need to stop thinking obsessively.

I completely agree.....People tend to believe only what they want to believe....Michael was a very mysterious person, if he wanted to keep some things private, I've no doubt that he was able to....
 
Well, it seems as though you just find it hard to believe that Michael had an actual private private-life that the public at large, no matter how much they loved him, knew next to nothing about...

This letter could be about a woman that we don't know and never heard of. And it's probably not Lisa.

Why is that impossible for some of you to accept? That he could have had someone that we never heard of?

I guess you girls just need to stop thinking obsessively.

Exactly. I personally don't believe that Michael has only ever had 3 relationships (Tatum, LMP, Debbie) in his 50 years life. Like I said before, we can't possibly know to whom this letter was written because there's a good chance Michael has had relationships that were hidden from the public. If you were dating Michael Jackson, would you want the whole world to know? Perhaps his girlfriend at the time didn't enjoy the prospect of being stalked by paparazzi or crazy MJ fans, perhaps she didn't wanna be known as "the girl who dated Michael Jackson" for the rest of her life, perhaps she valued her privacy? I don't see why this is so hard to imagine for some people.
 
Well, it seems as though you just find it hard to believe that Michael had an actual private private-life that the public at large, no matter how much they loved him, knew next to nothing about...

This letter could be about a woman that we don't know and never heard of. And it's probably not Lisa.

Why is that impossible for some of you to accept? That he could have had someone that we never heard of?

I guess you girls just need to stop thinking obsessively.

For some of you guys is tough to live your life without believing in mystery around MJ. Some fans even create this mystery. Michael HAD his private life and this letter IS PRIVATE even if it was addressed to Lisa. Why it is on the net, I do not know. It should not be there.
For some of you he do not seem to have a private life if it something to do with LMP. Why not? Well, it is up to you.
I see the mystery in Michael's talent, in his art but not in his private life. He was a human being after all and he was not different from others. Many ppl on this planet had the same situations in their lives like it has been shown in this letter and it fits Lisa perfectly in my opinion. Michael was on an open spot all his live. He was constantly photographed and such. His private live was limited by Neverland ranch but even Neverland did not give him 100% privacy because he was a public person. Simple as that.
Ppl who think that this letter was addressed to unknown woman based their opinion on ZERO facts. They even cannot say why they think that way. Looks like they just feel like it. There is no reasonable explanation I have seen so far in this discussion why ppl think that this letter could be addressed to a secret woman. Why I have to accept something that easy without any evidence from your side?
Personally I even not sure that this letter is real.

EDITED: If this letter was addressed to an unknown girlfriend and it was written recently as many of you claim, it menas that Michael died with a broken heart.It is terrible. I do not want this drama to be true. He had enough in his life without this additional pain in the end of his life.
 
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