Where Invincible went wrong

[Hurley509]

Reading the article now, and I can see that Michael's initial criticism of Rodney Jerkins was that much of his stuff sounded like everything else. I still come to that same conclusion when listening to the Invincible album. I think time proved Michael's initial intuition to be correct. A lot of it is overproduced to the point of being unrecognizable as music, especially the "dance tracks", where by comparison an outtake like Xscape still holds up really well - a completely missed assignment not releasing that song on the album.

It's interesting reading the strive for greatness Michael apparently embodied and yet the album is just so ... average really. I just can't imagine the Michael Jackson I know listening to it and thinking it was a record worthy to stand among the greats he'd recorded before.

Michael was apparently pushing Rodney to capture sounds from the world around him, completely relearn how to make music, bash on things, whaever the case might be. I cant hear the result of any of that on Invincible. Just some incredibly stilted dance tracks....

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Behind the Mask - this is an instant classic. Even beyond original release they could have put it on commercials and kept this thing alive. This song isn't over in my opinion. Just as YRMW and Heaven Can Wait are having a resurgence, this thing can do just that.

Not sure why old threads are popping up with notifications, but I definitely agree with this take. Behind the Mask made me An MJ fan.

 

[R1chard]

Yeah, it's just generic and samey. R&B just isn't innovative enough, or as popular enough with MJ's fanbase.

None of the songs really sound like MJ, and if we're honest, deep down we all know that if it wasn't MJ singing, we would never listen to any of the songs.

So it's a very long album without any obvious hits. So even if there had been more singles, that wouldn't have helped it become popular.

 

[mjfanboy27]

If you are telling the truth, then there is one more reason to hate Sony even more! Because apparently his looks on this photos - Sony's work. And damn. This image looks TERRIBLE. There is no Michael's photosession, that i didn't like. He always looked perfect... but this.... this is awful. He doesnt look like MJ at all. And all because of this stupid fringe! Photographer, stylist or whoever made these photos - is idiot. I dont understand how they could let him look so horrid. I hope Michael have never seen these photos... MJ could always look cool with short hair: during History he looked perfect (you are not alone haircut), even in Men in Black 2 cameo he looked like himself... But this photosession.... Is just my nightmare...

I think the Arno bani photo shooting is much worse because he looks like a stranger

 

[apple🍎]

I think the Arno bani photo shooting is much worse because he looks like a stranger

I actually love the Arno Bani shooting. It looks like some David Bowie-grade artful shooting. A starman, Ziggy Stardust. I get it not being Michael's cup of tea though. And not looking like him.

These are just bad.

 

[MJInnocent90]

I'm not sure why invincible gets hate, it is probably my second or third favorite album from Michael. There are so many great songs such as, Unbreakable, Invincible, Break of Dawn, YRMW, Heaven Can Wait, Speechless, Heartbreaker, Threatened, Whatever Happens, and here I am naming almost the whole album already... It's very underrated but sadly Sony ruined it for Michael.