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:lol: Just laughing at the very English sounding name you came up with for the butler just like one you'd find in an Agatha Christie novel. haha. How'd you do that so well?SoS said:...they say "the butler", they don't say, James Bradstock Jernigan
Okay, I apologize for all these names I threw out there when I was misunderstanding what you were after. I see now, though. But in this case we don't have any butlers or maids or Miss Scarletts or Colonel Mustards or the cook :chef: or a groundsman...
Don't we just have a bunch of chicks?
So we should maybe label them chick A, chick B, chick C, etc; and from what I can tell, we are gonna run out of letters. MJ was apparently one busy guy. 26 letters may not cover it. h34r:
SoS said:He is not imo capable of living any other lifestyle except that of having everything he could ever need or want in his world the way I see it.
What do you mean exactly by this, SoS?
Ape, I agree with so much of what you said in your post regarding how it doesn't seem to make much sense if someone asked God for a love so divine that they would then suddenly decide to go ahead and accept a relationship with someone that they clearly know is not the love so divine they asked God for. Why would Michael do that? A casual relationship maybe, to fill time with and enjoy, but for him to be "out there" somewhere today, married to someone who he knows is not "the one," because God showed him "the one" clearly at some point, seems a little hard to believe. I think that's because we see him as such a man of conviction. But life doesn't always turn out like we plan and there are always unexpected twists and turns.
Loneliness, and lack of true companionship, is such a hard thing to live with though.
The waiting game is so hard, but when you look at the individuals of faith in the Bible, so many of them had to wait and wait. I don't know how they did it...how they would stay focused and not give up on God's promises to them. They must have had a special dose of God's grace. Maybe if any of us are waiting on a personal promise of God's to us to be fulfilled, we might do well to ask Him for some of that kind of grace to sustain us during the "long wait."
Or, like SoS is saying here,
SoS said:...theory of him having 'found' her...
Then maybe he is out there somewhere with the LITD girl and not a 3D girl afterall. Or SoS could be meaning that he "found her" (the LITD girl) but still, even still, has not been able to connect with her. It just seems to me that MJ is so careful in keeping things private and protecting his business and especially when it comes to his romantic life, that maybe if he is not wanting to be found "publicly" it makes it all the more tricky to connect with "her". And do you think he really, really knows without a doubt that he can trust her? I mean, if he contacted her, in her complete excitement would she either accidently or unthinkingly "spill the beans" and cause him some problems? Does he know her that well?
I think this thread is like this. Maybe once in awhile we touch on some truth, but there is probably only a small portion of it here and there as we thread our way through the thread amongst all our speculation and commentary and silliness. Even the absurd, maybe. But it's fun and yes, it's entertainment.SoS said:Maybe it s kind of like astrology, maybe there's some germ of truth to something you read but it is whatever it is.
Thanks for posting, SoS, even though it sounds like you had some challenges. Thanks for pushing through.
Nice theory, MP! I'm gonna post the lyrics, mainly to help refresh my memory, but maybe others need a refresher, too.
"Heaven Can Wait"
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Tell the angels no, I don’t wanna leave my baby alone
I don’t want nobody else to hold you
That’s a chance I’ll take
Baby I’ll stay, Heaven can wait
No, if the angels took me from this earth
I would tell them bring me back to her
It’s a chance I’ll take, maybe I’ll stay
Heaven can wait
You’re beautiful
Each moment spent with you is simply wonderful
This love I have for you girl it’s incredible
And I don’t know what I’d do, if I can’t be with you
The world could not go on so every night I pray
If the Lord should come for me before I wake
I wouldn’t wanna go if I can’t see your face, can’t hold you close
What good would Heaven be
If the angels came for me I’d tell them no
[CHORUS]
Unthinkable
Me sitting up in the clouds and you are all alone
The time might come around when you’d be moving on
I’d turn it all around and try to get back down to my baby girl
Can’t stand to see nobody kissing, touching her
Couldn’t take nobody loving you the way we were
What good would Heaven be
If the angels come for me I’d tell them no
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Oh no, can’t be without my baby
Won’t go, without her I’d go crazy
Oh no, guess Heaven will be waiting
Ooh
Oh no, can’t be without my baby
Won’t go, without her I’d go crazy
Oh no, guess Heaven will be waiting
Ooh
[CHORUS]
Just leave us alone, leave us alone
Please leave us alone
Wow, the last lines here. Are we being told to leave them alone as they are out there in hiding somewhere finally able to live (and love) in peace?
If I remember correctly, Moddie had a dream where at one point the LITD girl was walking with a man who MOddie described as "small" and the LITD girl seemed uncomfortable while walking and talking with him. At the time, I took it not literally, meaning his size, but that he was a "small", maybe foolish and petty, man, especially in contrast to MJ. But it could mean that she was uncomfortable with him because he was shrewd and untrustworthy, maybe even with evil intent. Moddie's mention of it was brief and did not go into much detail. So maybe you have a point there, and a correlation.MP said:(Hey, btw, didn't Moddie mention a midget being in one of her dreams?)
EDIT: Ape...so no more fancy nails, huh? You had a enough of that! (I personally have never had fake nails so I can imagine how I would find them uncomfortable somehow for me, too)
This here, SoS, where you further respond to Ape...it seems like you think MJ could "replace" the LITD girl with another if he felt a "mate kind of love" was missing from his life. I think he did do that when he married in his thirties, but he seemed so wise and well-seasoned with understanding when he reached his fifties, and I dunno. It makes me think about Song of Songs and how Solomon worded what I view the most precious and valued, and seclusive, kind of love one can have for a woman, or a man if reversed, and that is when the "beloved" says...SoS said:I feel if there's ever been anything actually missing from his life he would replace it. Maybe it isn't that simple but I certainly echo anyone's feelings about that what u said Ape but there are also, so very many ways that any given matter can actually be,when details of a situation reveal the truth.
the one my heart loves
I just don't think that can be replaced, even by the King of Pop who had 100% everything. No one should be able to bump that God given kind of romantic love out of the way...it's just...there, and there to stay. It's worth waiting for, and the pull would remain strong towards it. Or am I being too romantic in my thinking, especially for one who doesn't consider herself all that romantic?
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