[Updated] Full Initial List of Possible Witnesses for Katherine Jackson and AEG Live

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Berman is a tour expert. Are you talking about Silver Jews or someone else? Can you give me a link to look at to that info?

I was under the impression that its the same dude

http://www.vulture.com/2008/06/the_silver_jews_david_berman_o.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berman_%28musician%29

[h=1]David Berman (musician)[/h]Following the release of Tennessee, Berman struggled through an intense period of depression and substance abuse. In 2003, he attempted suicide by using crack-cocaine, alcohol, and the prescription drug Xanax.[SUP][1][/SUP] Berman would later credit this time as "an incredible blessing", because he became more deeply involved with Judaism.[SUP][1][/SUP]


 
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Well given that guy only toured once I assumed he wouldn't be considered an "expert" but who knows perhaps they want a musician to testify to the "common" drug use among musicians.

edited to add: my own post scared me. Let's hope that it's not the David Berman they listed and he won't testify to drug addiction among musicians.
 
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Well given that guy only toured once I assumed he wouldn't be considered an "expert" but who knows perhaps they want a musician to testify to the "common" drug use among musicians.

edited to add: my own post scared me. Let's hope that it's not the David Berman they listed and he won't testify to drug addiction among musicians.


yes....that is what I think they may try to get at...but lets hope not because MJ and this guy have nothing in common IMO.
 
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Cardiologist

Alon Steinberg, MD

Cardiologist. Testified at Murray criminal trial.

Daniel Wohlgelernter, MD

Interventional Cardiology, Clinical & Preventive Cardiology

Anesthesiologist

Barry N. Swerdlow, MD

Anesthesia and Pain Medicine, Thousand Oaks, CA. 30 yrs exp

Medical School: Harvard Medical School

Emery Neal Brown , MD

Dr. Emery Neal Brown is a professor of anesthesiology at Harvard Medical School, a professor of computational neuroscience at M.I.T. and a practicing physician, seeing patients at Massachusetts General Hospital.

Hendrikus J.M. Lemmens, PhD

Professor of Anesthesia at Stanford University Medical Center


Addiction

Sidney Schnoll, MD

Sidney H. Schnoll, M.D., Ph.D. is an internationally recognized expert in addiction and pain management who applies his experience of over 30 years in academic medicine to the issues of risk management

Myer B. Shimelman. MD

Psychiatrist in Connecticut 46 yrs experience

Tour expert

Richard Barnet, PhD

Richard D. Barnet, professor of recording industry and former chair at Middle Tennessee State University, near Nashville, is co-author of This Business of Concert Promotion and Touring (Billboard Books, 2007).

David Berman


Mark Goldstein

Mark Goldstein until August 2004 was senior vice president, Business and Legal Affairs at Warner Bros Records Inc., when he retired to continue his full-time teaching at USC together with his work as a consultant in the entertainment industry.

Hiring practices / HR expert

Barry J. Nadell

Expert Witness / Consultant where background screening is an issue. Also a private investigator

Jean L. Seawright, CMC

management consultant since 1987, provided professional HR consultation services and advice to business owners

Forensic document expert

Lloyd W. Cunningham

Document examiner, handwriting expert.

Albert H Lyter III

Engaged in consultation, examination, training, research and testimony in Forensic Science, including ink and paper analysis, trace evidence and questioned document examination.

Howard C. Rile Jr.

Howard Rile has qualified and testified as an expert witness in document examination in more than 500 cases involving criminal and civil matters in federal and/or state courts in California, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Hawaii, Kansas, New York, and Wyoming.

Corporate Governance

David Lewin, PhD

David Lewin, Ph. D., is the Neil H. Jacoby Professor of Management, Human Resources and Organizational Behavior at the UCLA Anderson School of Management. A specialist in human resource management and industrial relations.

Joseph K. Tanimura, PhD

Joseph K. Tanimura, Ph.D., J.D., has consulted on matters involving antitrust liability and damages, commercial damages, corporate valuation, securities markets, intellectual property, and public policy. He was formerly an assistant professor of finance at San Diego State University and a managing economist for LECG, LLC. His litigation consulting experience spans a number of industries, including agriculture, automobile parts, consumer electronics, private equity, and real estate.


Expertise Unspecified

Gordon Matheson, MD

Sports injuries; rehabilitation; stress fractures; overuse injuries; exercise and health; human performance; pre-participation evaluation.

Charles A. Czeisler, MD

Harvard Medical School. He's an expert in sleep medicine.

Daniel J. Wallace, MD

Wallace is a rheumatologist. Rheumatologist acts as an expert witness in all aspects of autoimmune disease, arthritis, rheumatic diseases. Lupus expert.

Arthur Erk , CPA

Erk's field is royalty and royalty administration. Among the areas Erk specializes in are tour accounting for touring groups, and royalty audits and administration for music publishers, writers, producers, actors, and record and film companies

Peter Formuzis, PhD

Formuzis is a professor of economics at Cal State Fullerton. He has provided expert testimony in court litigation, specializing in projecting future earnings.

Frederic Askin, MD

Dr. Frederic Askin is a pathologist at Johns Hopkins Hospital. Lupus expert


This list makes me want scream out of frustration and at the same time cry:banghead
Jackson are ready to go great lengths to get money out of AEG by getting all these expert to testify on trial.
Why to f..k they didn't get help to Michael when it mattered, when he was alive:angry:
They have there Lupus expert, sleep expert etc, all those retained to help them get money for them, but none of them were asked to help when MJ was alive.



Does it look like they are somehow going to bring in fake will thingy or why they need handwriting and document experts?
Document examiner, handwriting expert.

Albert H Lyter III
Engaged in consultation, examination, training, research and testimony in Forensic Science, including ink and paper analysis, trace evidence and questioned document examination.

Howard C. Rile Jr.
Howard Rile has qualified and testified as an expert witness in document examination in more than 500 cases involving criminal and civil matters in federal and/or state courts in California, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Hawaii, Kansas, New York, and Wyoming.
 
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Daniel Wallace MD.

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This guy here wrote book about Lupus.

He's a very famous lupus expert, he confirmed MJ suffered from it after he passed.

He's never treated MJ though.
 
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All in all Jackson side have very impressing expert list, and I'm expecting AEG having equally impressive list.
The difference between People vs CM trial was that one side was in Michael's side, this case, there is no one in Michael's corner.:cry::sad2::weeping::girl_cry:
 
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The difference between People vs CM trial was that one side was in Michael's side, this case, there is no one in Michael's corner.:cry::sad2::weeping::girl_cry:

:sad2: :sad2: :sad2:
 
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^^Lung disease--could it be that they are going to look at his lungs and claim something.
The lung expert also seems to be someone who has experience with lupus related lung conditions:
Frederic B. Askin Among the former disorders are interstitial pneumonias, sarcoid, hypersensitivity reactions in the lung and pulmonary involvement in collagen vascular diseases, such as lupus or rheumatoid arthritis."
 
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Well at least the family didnt hire waldman. when i saw this thread i thought of him straight away. it would be their level to do that.

talk about bring dragged back to the trial. this is horrendous. i hate them for doing this to mj the kids and us. all for the love of money
 
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Those sure are a lot of experts. Maybe Katherine should've hired them for MJ before he died and then he would still be here. :( If she would have been concerned about his health, medical and other emotional issues years ago before he was killed by a rogue doctor then maybe MJ would still be with us.
 
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The difference between People vs CM trial was that one side was in Michael's side, this case, there is no one in Michael's corner.:cry::sad2::weeping::girl_cry:


With all the gazillion experts and attorneys and depositions, that says it all. NO ONE is in MJ's corner.
 
gerryevans;3787635 said:
With all the gazillion experts and attorneys and depositions, that says it all. NO ONE is in MJ's corner.

I feel physically ill, and this came to my mind
What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.
 
Bubs;3787637 said:
I feel physically ill, and this came to my mind
What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.

Yeah, physically ill. They're going to rip him apart.
 
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Yeah, physically ill. They're going to rip him apart.

you think they're gonna show.... more autopsy pics? I mean, IF they think that showing them during the trial can somehow help their case, would they go.... there? :(
 
Bubs;3787637 said:
I feel physically ill, and this came to my mind
What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.

I second that emotion :better:

I am probably missing something obvious but why all the cardiologists?
 
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you think they're gonna show.... more autopsy pics? I mean, IF they think that showing them during the trial can somehow help their case, would they go.... there? :(

Sorry to butt in but I'm so angry that I see red.
Jackson's would do live autopsy to Michael if there is money offered to them.
From 8/29/1958 to 3/8/2012 nothing about Michael has been sacred, anything is for sale for good price.

Got your answer?
 
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Arthur Erk , CPA

Erk's field is royalty and royalty administration. Among the areas Erk specializes in are tour accounting for touring groups, and royalty audits and administration for music publishers, writers, producers, actors, and record and film companies

Peter Formuzis, PhD

Formuzis is a professor of economics at Cal State Fullerton. He has provided expert testimony in court litigation, specializing in projecting future earnings.

and these two are called to tell jury how much Michael would have earned and how much Jackson's should be compensated.

Excuse me, I'm going to puke.
 
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How are they going to rip MJ apart and none of those experts ever met him or worked with him? I think you guys are worrying for nothing. Nothing will change that Murray was convicted and killed MJ. You guys are worrying about MJ being ripped to sheds but that's nothing new. He's been ripped for the past 30 years hasn't he and he's still loved by us all. Those experts have never talked to MJ or did a physical exam on him so I have no idea what their opinions mean. Besides if Katherine can hire all these experts now she should have done it 25 years ago when her son needed help for his issues.
 
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Arthur Erk , CPA

Erk's field is royalty and royalty administration. Among the areas Erk specializes in are tour accounting for touring groups, and royalty audits and administration for music publishers, writers, producers, actors, and record and film companies

Peter Formuzis, PhD

Formuzis is a professor of economics at Cal State Fullerton. He has provided expert testimony in court litigation, specializing in projecting future earnings.

and these two are called to tell jury how much Michael would have earned and how much Jackson's should be compensated.

Excuse me, I'm going to puke.

and im gonna go join you.
It's DISGUSTING that they let Murray off the hook restitution wise. DISGUSTING. Yes, they may not have seen a dime from him, but just knowing that he'd spend the rest of his life poor and miserable would be JUSTICE. When he gets out, he can actually do interviews, books and what not and EARN money!
And now they have lined up a heck of a lot of people with one goal only: how much did he loose out on, and how much can we get? I hope the judge, if they win and any money is rewarded, put a stipulation on that money saying it should go to his heirs (aka the kids) and not to buy new cars for the cubs.
 
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To me this seems like a "Let's try to scare big bad AEG with as many experts as possible and they will settle for sure". Most of those experts have nothing to do with the remaining claim anyway.
 
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you think they're gonna show.... more autopsy pics? I mean, IF they think that showing them during the trial can somehow help their case, would they go.... there? :(

I think they'd go ANYWHERE that might help them win this case.

How are they going to rip MJ apart and none of those experts ever met him or worked with him? I think you guys are worrying for nothing. Nothing will change that Murray was convicted and killed MJ. You guys are worrying about MJ being ripped to sheds but that's nothing new. He's been ripped for the past 30 years hasn't he and he's still loved by us all. Those experts have never talked to MJ or did a physical exam on him so I have no idea what their opinions mean. Besides if Katherine can hire all these experts now she should have done it 25 years ago when her son needed help for his issues.

No, none of them have ever met MJ. Then why have any of them as witnesses? Because they're going to talk in general terms, speak about what happens generally with raging, mentally deficient addicts, and make the comparison that is what MJ was.

Yes, he has been ripped apart for years and years. So why can't he at least be allowed to rest in peace in death?
 
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I think they'd go ANYWHERE that might help them win this case.



No, none of them have ever met MJ. Then why have any of them as witnesses? Because they're going to talk in general terms, speak about what happens generally with raging, mentally deficient addicts, and make the comparison that is what MJ was.

Yes, he has been ripped apart for years and years. So why can't he at least be allowed to rest in peace in death?

Because his family sucks and they don't care
 
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To me this seems like a "Let's try to scare big bad AEG with as many experts as possible and they will settle for sure". Most of those experts have nothing to do with the remaining claim anyway.

"The purpose of this lawsuit is to prove to the world the truth about what happened to Michael Jackson, once and for all,' Katherine Jackson's lawyer Brian Panish said in a statement."

How we/world is going to know the truth about what happen to MJ, if there is no trial?

If there is a settlement, we know for sure what was the real reason for this lawsuit, why restitution from CM wasn't accepted and what was the ultimate coal.
 
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"The purpose of this lawsuit is to prove to the world the truth about what happened to Michael Jackson, once and for all,' Katherine Jackson's lawyer Brian Panish said in a statement."

How we/world is going to know the truth about what happen to MJ, if there is no trial?

If there is a settlement, we know for sure what was the real reason for this lawsuit, why restitution from CM wasn't accepted and what was the ultimate coal.

but didnt they let go of the restitution because you can only be rewarded "lost income" once, and if they took the restitution, they couldn't sue AEG?
 
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As I mentioned in the first post, just because they listed these experts doesn't mean that all of them will testify. The document says 4 of the experts will not be called as a witness (which ones aren't mentioned) and it also says if they agree on more matters with AEG more experts will be removed.

As of now you can see the experts are ranging from doctors that can discuss why Michael died, doctors that can discuss standard of care of Murray, doctors that can talk about Michael's health in general, addiction experts, tour experts to discuss normal procedures for a tour, HR experts to talk about background checks and how to hire people, somewhat vague document expert and finally the experts to determine the lost income.

Experts do not need to know or worked or treated Michael. They will either comment on the records / documents they were shown or they will talk about issues in general terms.


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but didnt they let go of the restitution because you can only be rewarded "lost income" once, and if they took the restitution, they couldn't sue AEG?

they could have sued AEG but any restitution Murray was ordered to pay would have reduced any money AEG might be ordered to pay (if KJ wins of course)
 
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I though the trial was only gonna last a week. at this rate what are we looking at.

how much money mj could have earned is only relevent to the kids.kj is no worse off money wise now. she still gets looked after and its not like shes young so would need x amount. of course we know her kids need the money but compensation should be for mjs kids only or kj should get a minimal amount. can a jury dictate which plaintiffs get what amount or us it one single amount split each way.
 
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^^

they had estimated 30 to 45 days - longer than Murray trial. I would think that it would get shorter now that 2 claims are dismissed but you never know.
 
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arghhh.... WHY Do I suddenly crave for Cookies now ? :blink:

Indeed, if 'Mother' cared so much for her son that she would have 'consulted' all these experts when she still had her 'son' DUH...

I really hope it's the 'possible' list and the judge is gonna put his foot down in whole this 'charade' :beee:
 
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really!! oh man thought reports ages ago said a week. this is like the trial all over again :-(

^^

they had estimated 30 to 45 days - longer than Murray trial. I would think that it would get shorter now that 2 claims are dismissed but you never know.
 
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To me this seems like a "Let's try to scare big bad AEG with as many experts as possible and they will settle for sure". Most of those experts have nothing to do with the remaining claim anyway.

Well, remember with the Murray trial the Murray side had experts too, though they didn't help much.
 
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