[Updated] Full Initial List of Possible Witnesses for Katherine Jackson and AEG Live

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^^Autumn it seems they think that having several experts with give the case more validity. I agree with you because I do not see how these experts will link their evidence to negligent hiring. I could understand the HR person saying this is the step for hiring an employee, but AEG was not Muarry's employer and they still have to overcome the hurdle of Michael insisting on this guy. Then AEG could show that several other workers were brought in by Michael as well, like Karen. Then they can show the protocol they used to accept Karen was the same protocol they used to accept Muarry, except muarry needed to have his licenses. In fact, didn't we see Michael at the auditions & he was saying who he wanted, so Michael played a key role in the composition of the staff. Is the family going to sue Michael too?

Oh, why not? :tease:
Wouldn't surprise me one bit though.
 
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^^Autumn it seems they think that having several experts with give the case more validity. I agree with you because I do not see how these experts will link their evidence to negligent hiring. I could understand the HR person saying this is the step for hiring an employee, but AEG was not Muarry's employer and they still have to overcome the hurdle of Michael insisting on this guy. Then AEG could show that several other workers were brought in by Michael as well, like Karen. Then they can show the protocol they used to accept Karen was the same protocol they used to accept Muarry, except muarry needed to have his licenses. In fact, didn't we see Michael at the auditions & he was saying who he wanted, so Michael played a key role in the composition of the staff. Is the family going to sue Michael too?

If it's so easy to sue AEG, how about a class lawsuit
The fans vs AEG?
Collatoral damage!
Depriving us the chance of EVER hearing & watching Michael
enjoying his art ever again !


 
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If it's so easy to sue AEG, how about a class lawsuit
The fans vs AEG?
Collatoral damage!
Depriving us the chance of EVER hearing & watching Michael
enjoying his art ever again !



Indeed, why not "fans vs AEG" or "fans vs quack" Any quack that treated Michael :blush:

Reason: Emotional distress and even PTSD :smilerolleyes:
 
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Yeah & the scary thing is that, if we sue AEG, we would get a lawyer to represent us. Remember, Billie Jean, the guy who sued Michael for the expenses the county had due to memorial, & that crazy woman who said Michael took control of her mind got lawyers
 
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Some additional documents were added and now we have more information about the expert witnesses

Updates to Katherine's expert witnesses

In addition to the 23 retained experts mentioned in the original post, it turns out Katherine Jackson has listed 84 non-retained experts that she may call during trial.

Katherine Jackson's 84 non-retained experts are as follows
1. Edward Baxley MD
2. Dona Norris from Beverly Hills Police Department
3. Alimorad Farschcian, MD
4. Stuart Finkelstein MD
5. Stephen Gordon, MD
6. Hosny Habashy MD
7. Michael Henson (toxicology lab)
8. Sally Hirschberg from Seacoast medical (where Murray ordered supplies)
9. Robert William Johnson
10. Edward Kantor MD
11. Arnold Klein MD
12. Francis Lagattuta MD
13. Cherilyn Lee
14. Carlos Letelier DDS
15. Tim Lopez from Applied Pharmacy
From LA Coroner's office
16. Dan Anderson
17. Elisa Fleak
18. Lakshmanan Sathyavagiswaran
19. Jamie Lintemoot
20. A. Perez
21. Christopher Rogers
22. Ed Winter
From LA Sheriff Department
23. F. Diaz
24. S. Doucette
25. R. Hernandez
From LA Fire Department
26. Martin Blount
27. Engineer Brigandi
28. Jenna Daddario EMT
29. Mark Goodwin Paramedic
30. Reynold Henry EMT
31. Brett Heron Firefighter
32. Robert Linnell Captain
33. J Mills Captain
34. Richard Senneff Paramedic
From LA Police Department
35. S Abdul-Rahman Detective
36. Ron Alberca Sergeant
37. Ruben Arellano Sergeant
38. A. Behnke, Detective
39. Lillian Carranza Lt
40. Chase Choe SID
41. Ruben De Latorre Captain
42. Terry Hara Deputy Chief
43. Orlando Martinez Detective
44. Kevin McCarthy Commander
45. J. McDonald Officer
46. Dan Myers Detective
47. E. Nathan Captain
48. W. Porche Detective
49. L. Romero Detective
50. L. Sanchez Detective
51. Scott Smith Detective
52. Lt. G. Strenk
53. Alexander Supall
54. Michael Williams Commander
(not specified)
55. Stephen Marks, DEA Digital Evidence Lab
56. Alan Metzger MD
57. Nishan Odabashian DDS
58. Christine Quinn DDS
59. Neil Ratner
60. Richard Ruffolo MD
61. Steven Shafer MD
62. Mark Tadrissi DDS
From UCLA Medical Center
63. Erwin Azurdia, RN
64. Richelle Cooper, MD
65. Daniel Cruz, MD
66. Jenna Daddario ECT
67. Nader Kamangar, MD
68. Gordon Landis (Security)
69. Gene Loveland RN
70. Russell McKinney UCLA Police
71. Michael Mercado MD
72. Serena Mumford RN
73. Thao Nguyen MD
74. Matt Pinkus UCLA Police
75. Janet Rimicci RN
76. Amir Dan Rubin - president and CEO of UCLA Hospital
77. Gene Pierre RN
78. Jason Willis RN
(unspecified)
79. William Van Valin MD
80. Carl Virgil MD
81. Robert Waldman MD (testified as addiction specialist for Murray's defense)
82. Roland Williams
83. Debra Willis CNA
(Ivy's note: Apparently I missed one name but I won't spend time trying to find who I missed)

We also learn why Katherine hired the retained experts and what are they expected to testify for :

Cardiologist

Alon Steinberg, MD- Murray's standard of care, toxicology, Murray's education.

Daniel Wohlgelernter, MD- standard of care,

Anesthesiologist

Barry N. Swerdlow, MD- standard of care, Murray's departure from standard of care was substantial factor in Michael's death.

Emery Neal Brown , MD - Propofol, anesthesia, sleep, brain activity, effect of Propofol on brain and body, dosing, whether Murray's statement that he administered 25 mg Propofol is true or not

Hendrikus J.M. Lemmens, PhD- Propofol, modelling, whether Murray's statement of 25 mg is true or not, likely route and time of administration, the manner which Propofol caused death.


Addiction

Sidney Schnoll, MD - addiction, treatment of addiction, addiction as an illness, whether or not Michael appeared to have addiction issues in June 2009 and in the past, addiction or dependence potential of the drugs Michael was taking at the time of his death,

Myer B. Shimelman. MD- addiction and its treatment, whether or not Michael suffered from addiction if so the nature of it, treatments available to Michael, effects of treatment of Michael's life and work expectancy

Tour expert

Richard Barnet, PhD- nature and history of concert tour promotion, roles of people, actions should have been taken by prudent promoters, producers and managers

David Berman - typical practices in music industry, roles of promoters, producers, artists, managers and so on


Mark Goldstein- reasonable construction of contracts in music industry, role of producers, promoters, artists, managers

Hiring practices / HR expert

Barry J. Nadell - background checks

Jean L. Seawright, CMC- hiring practices, when background checks are performed, whether a background check on Murray should have been performed, what would have been learned if a background check was done.

Forensic document expert

Lloyd W. Cunningham - possible irregularities of identified documents contracts signatures, forgeries, altered documents. identifying handwriting

Albert H Lyter III- aging of documents and authenticity

Howard C. Rile Jr. - genuineness of documents, alterations, additions, deletions, identify or eliminate source of handwriting.

Corporate Governance

David Lewin, PhD - corporate structure, executive roles, divisions, subsidiaries, corporate liability

Joseph K. Tanimura, PhD - corporate structure, executive roles, divisions, subsidiaries, corporate liability

Expertise Unspecified

Gordon Matheson, MD- sports medicine, ethics, appropriate relationship between medical provider, patient and interested third party.

Charles A. Czeisler, MD- sleep medicine, treatment of sleep disorders, whether Michael evaluated by a sleep specialist, successful sleep treatment programs and inappropriateness of Murray's treatment.

Daniel J. Wallace, MD- Michael did not suffer from systemic lupus.

Arthur Erk , CPA- Michael's future earnings capacity, economic damages, loss of earnings

Peter Formuzis, PhD - past future economic damages, lost earnings

Frederic Askin, MD - pulmonary pathology findings


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Updates to AEG's expert witnesses

AEG has 9 retained and 24 non-retained expert witnesses.

24 Non Retained experts are

1. David Adams MD
2. Irving Azoff
3. Martin Blount
4. John Branca
5. Alimorad Farshchian MD
6. Stuart Finkelstein MD
7. David Fournier
8. Stephen Gordon MD
9. Hosny Habashy MD
10. Michael Kane
11. Lawrence Koplin MD
12. Cherilyn Lee
13. Carlos Letelier MD
14. Allan Metzger MD
15. Christine Quinn DDS
16. Neil Ratner MD
17. Gordon Sasaki MD
18. Scott Saunders MD
19. Richard Sherman
20. Barry Siegel
21. David Slavit MD
22. Mark Tadrissi DDS
23. William Van Valin MD
24. Carl Virgil MD

AEG's 9 retained witnesses and what they are expected to testify as follows:

William Ackerman CPA - Michael's finances before death, any financial support plaintiffs received before Michael's death, Michael's finances if he lived, any financial support plaintiffs would receive if Michael lived, any alleged economic loss

Eric Briggs - Michael's past and future business endeavors and income, Michael's debts and assets including Michael's brand, market for Michael's past and future business endeavors

Arnold Dicke - life expectancy of Michael using actuarial and insurance tables

Paul Earley MD - propofol, substance abuse, risk and effects on life expectancy, methods of obtaining addictive drugs, treatment, relapse , eating disorders as they relate to life expectancy

John Iacovino MD - life expectancy of Michael and/or plaintiffs

Norman Lepor MD - training practices of cardiologists with regards to anesthesia and cardiopulmonary resuscitation.

Petrus Levounis MD - substance abuse, addiction, use and effects of addictive substances, behaviors and appearance of addicts, drug tolerances

Mark Roesler - marketability of Michael Jackson pre and post death as well as the impact of death on a celebrity's marketability

Christine Sang MD - safe and proper use of Propofol, effects of Propofol

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Judge's order

Katherine Jackson has to provide deposition dates for retained experts by March 11 and depositions should be concluded by April 8th.

AEG has to provide deposition dates for retained experts by March 14 and depositions should be concluded by April 8th.

Any expert for Katherine that isn't given a deposition date by March 22 and any expert for AEG that isn't given a deposition date by April 8th will be excluded - unless both parties agree to keep them.

for any witness deposed before March 24, Motion to exclude expert witness should be filed by March 24, oppositions by March 26, reply by April 1st. Hearing is set for April 8th.

For any witness expert deposed after March 24, motion to exclude should be filed 3 days after their depositions.

By March 18 Katherine has to limit her non retained experts to witnesses who they believe they will call to testify at trial.
 
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"Daniel J. Wallace, MD- Michael did not suffer from systemic lupus."

I wonder what will be his testimony.
 
Re: [Updated] Possible Expert Witnesses for Katherine Jackson and AEG Live

"Daniel J. Wallace, MD- Michael did not suffer from systemic lupus."

I wonder what will be his testimony.

that's what the document says he will testify to "that Michael Jackson did not suffer from systemic lupus"
 
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I see Klien is on Katherine's list, well good luck to her when he is cross-examined. I notice that Branca is on the AEG list--very interesting. Now the experts who will talk about abuse, drugs & its effects to life expectancy, are they getting concrete evidence about Michael's drug use, or are they going by what people say such as he was an addict since the 80's?

Shelly I was thinking that Wallace will say that Michael did not die as a result of Lupus or vitiliago, & that drugs taken for these medical condition do not lead to drug abuse. Isn't that what he said in the comment to the media?

PS: I am missing something, isn't the trial on April 2. How come depositions have to be done by April 8th^^?
 
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Jury selection starts April 2nd. Trial will start later and with non expert witnesses.
 
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that's what the document says he will testify to "that Michael Jackson did not suffer from systemic lupus"

I understand, but what does it has to do with the lawsuit?
 
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I see Klien is on Katherine's list, well good luck to her when he is cross-examined. I notice that Branca is on the AEG list--very interesting. Now the experts who will talk about abuse, drugs & its effects to life expectancy, are they getting concrete evidence about Michael's drug use, or are they going by what people say such as he was an addict since the 80's?

Shelly I was thinking that Wallace will say that Michael did not die as a result of Lupus or vitiliago, & that drugs taken for these medical condition do not lead to drug abuse. Isn't that what he said in the comment to the media?

PS: I am missing something, isn't the trial on April 2. How come depositions have to be done by April 8th^^?

He said, in his comments to the media that MJ had discoid but not systemic lupus.
 
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that's what the document says he will testify to "that Michael Jackson did not suffer from systemic lupus"

But he did suffer lupus, it said so in the autopsy..didnt it?.... :scratchhead:
 
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Jury selection starts April 2nd. Trial will start later and with non expert witnesses.


Oh thanks. I knew I had missed something. Grandma should be the first witness.

8701 he did have lupus, but I think Wallace is saying that was not the cause of his death.

I wonder if by using Wallace the family is trying to say that Michael's medical conditions did not cause his death, but Muarry who was influenced by AEG's e-mails, & who AEG negligently hired.

Is anyone thinking that Dickie will say that with his lifestyle, Michael's life expectancy would not have been long anyway? I mean, this is close to what AEG's lawyer said, & Dickie will use the actuarial and insurance tables.
 
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8701 he did have lupus, but I think Wallace is saying that was not the cause of his death.

Oh i thought he said michael didnt suffer from lupus
 
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Oh i thought he said michael didnt suffer from lupus

No there are 2 types of lupus, so he is stating the one Michael suffered from.

Oh I just realized the family has a dentist (Carlos Letelier DDS) What is he going to talk about? Did something happen to Michael's teeth with can be connected to prof & Muarry?
 
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11. Arnold Klein MD Oh dear God if he gets to called as a witness. I feel pity for lawyer who has to question him.

81. Robert Waldman MD (testified as addiction specialist for Murray's defense) :assassin: Elusive, you spoke too early.


Sidney Schnoll, MD - addiction, treatment of addiction, addiction as an illness, whether or not Michael appeared to have addiction issues in June 2009 and in the past, addiction or dependence potential of the drugs Michael was taking at the time of his death,

Myer B. Shimelman. MD- addiction and its treatment, whether or not Michael suffered from addiction if so the nature of it, treatments available to Michael, effects of treatment of Michael's life and work expectancy

:bugeyed


Forensic document expert
Lloyd W. Cunningham - possible irregularities of identified documents contracts signatures, forgeries, altered documents. identifying handwriting

Albert H Lyter III- aging of documents and authenticity

Howard C. Rile Jr. - genuineness of documents, alterations, additions, deletions, identify or eliminate source of handwriting.

I wonder what those people are about?


Charles A. Czeisler, MD- sleep medicine, treatment of sleep disorders, whether Michael evaluated by a sleep specialist, successful sleep treatment programs and inappropriateness of Murray's treatment.

I hope Katherine feels stung in her heart (if she has one) that she didn't sought help from sleep specialists to MJ when he was alive.


William Ackerman CPA - Michael's finances before death, any financial support plaintiffs received before Michael's death, Michael's finances if he lived, any financial support plaintiffs would receive if Michael lived, any alleged economic loss

I would be interested to hear this witness.


John Iacovino MD - life expectancy of Michael and/or plaintiffs

They have someone to testify how long Katherine (plaintiff) will live.



Mark Roesler - marketability of Michael Jackson pre and post death as well as the impact of death on a celebrity's marketability

:(


Any expert for Katherine that isn't given a deposition date by March 22 and any expert for AEG that isn't given a deposition date by April 8th will be excluded - unless both parties agree to keep them.

I think most of the expert witnesses in K's list are irrelevant now as so many of her claims were thrown out.
 
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did he perform the autopsy?

Yes he did. Most of the names on the list are the same people than in CM trial, but I don't think all of them are relevant any longer as only negligent hiring is the only claim that goes ahead.
 
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yeah this just seems to be a rehash of the criminal trial. throw everyones name in there and take your pic. i hope this is an old list as u say bubs 90% of kjs list is irrelevent and seems to be a case of anyone and everyone.

AEG list is much more detailed and frankly its horrendous. they are all gonna tear michael apart this is so upsetting. all AEGs list shows to me is that they are gonna say he was a junnkie and was gonna die sooner or later anyway and that he was just a comodity. not a human being based off what money he would have made etc etc. hes gonna be ripped apart far worse than the trial with no one to defend him.

the only good thing if u can call it that is the bit about the family and how mj paid for them via the testimony of ackerman.
 
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I just cannot see why would they even use that many medical experts as didn't the judge say that AEG is not responsible what CM did, only negligent hiring?
"Judge also mentions secondary factors that AEG Live had nothing to do with medical care, medical work performed by a specialist without supervision, medicines were provided by Murray and the contract and the parties clearly understood that the agreement was for an independent contractor."

So why even bring in med experts if AEG is not responsible of CM actions?

Yeah, I'm looking forward to Ackerman's testimony, who was supported and who wasn't.
 
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It's his message to the media

***Update: 7/1/09

The following message from Lupus expert Daniel Wallace was forwarded to us today:
Dear Colleagues: I can confirm that Michael Jackson had vitiligo and discoid (chronic cutaneous lupus) and never had systemic disease that played any role in his passing. I am concerned that some commentators are relating that a background of abuse has anything to do with lupus. There has never been a peer reviewed published article that specifically has shown this in lupus. Thanks Dan Wallace MD
Clinical Professor of Medicine Cedars-Sinai Medical Center/David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA

http://cure4lupus.org/store/index.ph...=208&chapter=2
 
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AEG list is much more detailed and frankly its horrendous. they are all gonna tear michael apart this is so upsetting. all AEGs list shows to me is that they are gonna say he was a junnkie and was gonna die sooner or later anyway and that he was just a comodity. not a human being based off what money he would have made etc etc. hes gonna be ripped apart far worse than the trial with no one to defend him.

Totally agree. Not sure why anyone would think aeg would probably protect mj's reputation in this trial - they'll be distancing themselves as far as they can from what murray and mj were doing in carolwood everynight. That aeg list (thanks ivy for posting) is ghastly - basically they're going to be talking down his future earnings and present him as some washed up star who was worth more dead than alive and had a precarious life expectancy. V v v upsetting for mj's children, and to be brutal can't say i'm confident that mrs j as guardian has taken their feelings into account when pursuing this case.

I just cannot see why would they even use that many medical experts as didn't the judge say that AEG is not responsible what CM did, only negligent hiring?
I guess the jacksons have to show exactly what murray did, as they have to demonstrate 'negligent' hiring not just hiring.

And who put waldman on the expert list - he's not in any shape or form an expert, apart from an expert in how to make a prat of yourself when compiling a bar chart for a high-profile trial.
 
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I'm not expecting AEG to be nice to Michael or any of the Jacksons. It's apparent that AEG will say that Michael was an addict, with or without them he would still obtain drugs / doctors, Michael had an eating disorder. They would probably say he didn't have much of a life expectancy, his income will be lower if he was alive, all the support he provided to the Jacksons and how that support was less than what it is now. So overall AEG will put the responsibility on Michael and try to minimize the damages.

The sad part is that Katherine's side will also have a claim of addiction and/or drug use at the previous tours. Otherwise they cannot do "Gongaware knew or should have known" claim.

The medical experts may or may not testify. In one of the documents Katherine's lawyers say they will not call those experts if AEG agrees that Michael died due to negligence of Murray. I'm assuming that AEG is also planning to paint Michael as responsible for his death. It's a tactic to reduce any and all responsibility for AEG.

This is not going to be pretty.
 
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The medical experts may or may not testify. In one of the documents Katherine's lawyers say they will not call those experts if AEG agrees that Michael died due to negligence of Murray. I'm assuming that AEG is also planning to paint Michael as responsible for his death. It's a tactic to reduce any and all responsibility for AEG.

Didn't AEG's lawyers said that in motion summary or was it in interview? They don't deny CM cause Michael's death.
 
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no one can deny Murray's involvement but they can certainly try to point the responsibility to others. To me their statements such as Michael's death was a matter of time and so on, and mentioning or calling him an addict and saying they weren't his sobriety coach, certainly sounds like they will one way or another try to place the responsibility on Michael.
 
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They will have to place the responsibility on mj because if they didnt its kinda like them saying we had an idea or knew or told murray to do what he did.they have to claim total
ignorance to help win. and the fact this wad goibg on before may is a big factor. i think aeg are also hopibg on the general mentality of the public/haters in the jury members that mj asked for it do he was as much to blane as murray and how would aeg know what was going on behind closed doors. to me thats their greatest amo. something that is used to attack mj may this time be used to stop the jacksons cashing in. silver lining and all that!
 
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They are saying the same things the family is saying. However, the family i trying to blame AEG they are saying no this Michael's doing. Again no one cares about Michael
 
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They will have to place the responsibility on mj because if they didnt its kinda like them saying we had an idea or knew or told murray to do what he did.they have to claim total
ignorance to help win. and the fact this wad goibg on before may is a big factor. i think aeg are also hopibg on the general mentality of the public/haters in the jury members that mj asked for it do he was as much to blane as murray and how would aeg know what was going on behind closed doors. to me thats their greatest amo. something that is used to attack mj may this time be used to stop the jacksons cashing in. silver lining and all that!

I'm confused, i don't think it's ever been in dispute that mj bears some resp to the extent that he was the one who asked for prop from murray. Walgren in the murray trial certainly never disputed that and i've never seen fans dispute that. It's just a fact that mj was the one who asked murray to give him propofol. But after that request (which a responsible, ethical doctor shd have turned down), responsibility is all down to murray as mj was lying there unconscious with an iv drip in - the self-injection theory was totally dismissed by the court.
 
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I don't think we will see a self injection theory. It's actually the same defense of Murray. Michael wanted Propofol and therefore he shares some responsibility. Yes Walgren never denied that, he focused on substantial part Murray played. If you remember the one jury that talked she said to them it was mainly the matter of 911 call. They didn't try to determine how Michael died, for them mainly the actions Murray did while Michael was dying enough to determine that Murray substantially contributed to Michael's death.

If you remember Murray also very similarly wanted to call other doctors, past doctors and show a Propofol history to show that he was just the last man standing in a series of doctors. In criminal trial Judge Pastor kept the timeline limited to the last 6 months and therefore removed that line of defense from Murray.

That's why I see this as a page from Murray's defense strategy. I'm thinking AEG will build on what Jacksons start with Propofol history at previous tours and paint a picture that will say "look Michael with or without AEG, with or without Murray would have gotten Propofol if he wanted it, how could you hold us responsible?"

The damages here will be determined by level of responsibility.

Not an exact example but if we assume Michael's lost income is $1 billion, and if you say Michael and Murray equally (50-50) responsible for what happened that brings damages to $500 Million. If you say AEG - Murray is 20% - 80% responsible that would bring damages that can be taken from AEG to $100 Million.

So regardless of the above stupid example what I'm saying AEG will benefit (and lower the possible damages they had to pay if they lose) if they can spread the responsibility to other parties - whether it's Murray, Michael or anyone else.
 
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