When did Michael first met Lisa (not the first time when she was 7)

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I was wondering when they first met, as she mentioned in DS interview that they dated 4 months before they got married, they met at a mutual friend (the artist). I heard someone said that Lisa said on Oprah that she met Michael BEFORE the interview he did with Oprah (Feb 1993). Michael said he was friend with Lisa before the 1993 allegation happens, and she supported him through that period.

I tried to find the script of the interview of Lisa on Oprah, but couldn't find one. Michael also said in his Oprah's interview that he dated Brooke and the other girl, was that mean Lisa? Some people said the other girl might be "S" which we don't know if it's true.
 
Who is "s"? And i think it had to have been around late january early February when they et of 1993
 
Who is "s"? And i think it had to have been around late january early February when they et of 1993

I think "S" is the lady who did an interview w/ ET during the trial about dating MJ in the 1990s. Is it ok to say her name? Why are we referring to her as "S"? lol

As I said in the other thread the "other girl" he mentions when asked have you ever been in love could be Diana Ross.

Anybody have the transcript of LMP on Oprah? I think she was on there twice once with her mother and once with Riley. Mabye when she was on with her mom is the one we are looking for.
 
Michael's such a player.

And you would think that dating someone for 4 months is way too short a period of time to then go and marry them, would you not? But it's Michael Jackson ffs, so I can understand. (Sarcasm...) lol
 
haha michael is a player! lol and men is he daring! he was messing with a married women who had kids! lol yea yea the marriage wansnt working out. But Michael didnt really let them fix their problems lol you know, with all his wooving and courting. and yes, can we talk about "S"? who is she?
 
i found this....
Lisa Marie Presley and daughter Rile Keough on Oprah September 10, 2007

Although she says she normally does not get emotional, Lisa Marie says she gasped for air the first time she heard the rough mix of the song and thought, "I don't sing as well as he does," she says. "I can hide behind him as much as possible, but that made me very emotional." Of all the songs in Elvis Presley's repertoire, Lisa Marie says the meaningful lyrics of "In the Ghetto" made this song jump out at her the most.

"I ended up going to New Orleans because the director I wanted was in New Orleans, so I flew," Lisa Marie says. "As I was going from the airport to go shoot the video, I'm looking at all this, you know, abandoned desolate place that I was thinking was being repaired. I was under this wrong impression. So I was pretty shocked. Then I went, 'This all makes sense. For some reason I'm doing this. I don't know why. I'm following my instinct. And this is why. Here's the answer.'"

In her first ever television interview, Riley, Lisa Marie's daughter, says that Elvis was not made into "this huge thing" by her family, but rather was shown to her in photo albums like a normal grandfather. So despite being the granddaughter of a legend, Riley says it was not hard for her to define her individuality. At 18 years old, Riley is already in the midst of a successful modeling career. Ultimately, Riley says her career aspiration is to become a photographer. Instead of flaunting the family name, Lisa Marie is proud her daughter is earning money for herself. "I didn't want her to have that shadow where she felt competition and intimidated by anything," Lisa Marie says. "I wanted [my children] to be able to do what they wanted to do."


Lisa Marie: We'd already worked together for a year and we were on the road together so we already knew very well what we were getting into. By perfect, I don't mean literally. I just mean for me. Like the soul mate thing, the best friends, the whole—we do everything together and, no, I'm not wearing a ring. Oprah: Are you done with marriage? Lisa Marie: I would never say I'm done with it [marriage] I think I would get married if I wanted to have more children.

Lisa Marie Presley, the daughter of Elvis and Priscilla Presley, has been famous since the day she was born. Lisa Marie was the apple of her father's eye. He showered his young daughter with elaborate gifts. Elvis even named his jet after her. When Lisa Marie was just 4 years old, her parents went their separate ways. The divorce left Lisa Marie splitting her time with Elvis in Memphis at Graceland and Priscilla in Los Angeles . Then on August 16, 1977 , the world heard the heartbreaking news: Elvis Presley was dead. At 9 years old, Lisa Marie's life was changed forever.

She struggled through her teens and admits experimenting with drugs. However, she eventually turned her life around, found love and married musician Danny Keough. They had two children, daughter, Riley, and son, Benjamin. Lisa Marie and Danny later divorced. For the most part, Lisa Marie was able to avoid the headlines until her high profile and short-lived marriages to Michael Jackson and Nicolas Cage.

Now she's taking an opportunity to step into the spotlight, to define herself and her style, with a new CD titled Now What. Lisa Marie has tried to maintain a relatively low profile and says that her reputation for being tough is not entirely warranted. "You have to sort of get a protective skin outside, even if it's not real," she says. "I think that was a survival mechanism [for me]."

Lisa Marie says that she is conflicted about having grown up in the public eye. "I'm not someone who desires or wants attention," she says. "I've never been one of those people that run around, you know, walking every red carpet and going to every opening of every envelope, doing Presley perfumes and singing Elvis cover songs. I'm just innately not the type of person that wants attention on me. This has been my biggest battle, and it's why it took me so long to do a record. I had to really find how to be okay with all of that before doing it."

She says this CD provides a chance to define herself to the world. "When I put the record out I realized how much was there prior to me introducing myself and coming out in public and talking. I was like, 'You have no idea who I am.' I'm introducing myself to you for the first time and you have all of these pre-conceived [ideas] of me."

Lisa Marie was married to Michael Jackson for nearly two years, between 1994 and 1996. Some have openly questioned the nature of their relationship.

Oprah: You said you loved him.

Lisa Marie Presley: Yes.

Oprah: Do you think he loved you?

Lisa Marie Presley: It's hard for me to answer that question. I don't know the answer to that, to be honest with you.

Oprah: Do you think that he loved you as much as he could?

Lisa Marie Presley: Yes, as much as he was capable of loving somebody.

Oprah: Do you think he used you?

Lisa Marie: This seat is hot, let me tell you! Do I think he did? All signs point to yes on that. I can't answer for him. Lisa Marie married for the third time in 2002. Their volatile relationship ended quickly, with Nicolas Cage filing for divorce after just 108 days.
Lisa Marie says although she was upset by the break-up, things are better between them now. "I have to give him credit, you know. That was not a fun time for either of us. He did redeem himself in the end and we did become very good friends after that. We're better like that. And he's happily married and has a baby coming now, which is great."

Lisa Marie says that having children with her first husband, Danny Keough, was one of the best things she has ever done. Lisa Marie and Danny were together for about eight years, and Lisa Marie says she knew at age 19 that Danny was the person she wanted to have children with. I've never had that same instinct with a man, you know, knowing that it would be all good, safe," she says. "I knew that no matter what happened we would always be connected, and I don't know how I knew that at such a young age but I instinctively knew that and had those children with him and we are like best friends; brother and sister."

Lisa Marie Presley says she and Danny raise their two children together, and that he even lives on her property."We have like a compound so he has his house and we spend holidays together," she says. "It's hard to have that kind of relationship with your ex…but I think it's very important if you have children with somebody to keep your responsibility. You don't need to put what you guys went through or what you had with each other on the children."

Oprah: When you look at yourself as a mother, where would you rate yourself? Scale 1 to 10.

Lisa Marie: An 8.

Oprah: I think 8 is about as good as you can do! What do you think you're best at as a mother?

Lisa Marie: Just overwhelming them with affection and love. They need to push me off of them constantly…I'm crazy about them and they know it. And then having that, versus being their friend—trying really hard to be their friend as well as be a mother. That's the fence you walk, which is important because you can't go too much on one side or the other.

Oprah: How do you tell them what's important? As a citizen of the world, your community, when you've got everything?

Lisa Marie: You have to be an example. I'm not somebody who sits around. I'm not happy unless I'm helping other people. And they watch me and they see that. You have to just be a good example.

Oprah: Do you always feel like you're being compared to your father or have you reached a place where you're comfortable; you can embrace it; you can use it to infuse your own life and not reject it, or not feel like, "Oh, people are always thinking about him when they're thinking about me?"

Lisa Marie: I think that that was a huge mountain to climb and ultimately, you know, there is going be some of that there, and I do embrace it. I understand that part of it.

Oprah: Are you still trying to say, "No, I have my own life. I have my own identity."

Lisa Marie: No, I'm trying to find a good balance between the two. It's not that I want to push that away. You can't do that.

Oprah: That is very smart on your part. First of all, you look like him! And that's a good thing. And that is a part of who you are

Priscilla Presley is here for her first TV interview with her daughter! How did Lisa Marie's mother become the First Lady of Rock 'n' Roll? Priscilla Beaulieu was just 14 when she met 25-year-old Army private Elvis Presley in Germany in 1959. Despite their age difference, the two had an instant connection. After completing his tour of duty, Elvis returned to America . Two years later, he asked Priscilla's father if she could move to Graceland . It nearly tore the family apart, but in the end her father agreed and Priscilla attended her senior year of high school in Memphis . It was a life unlike any other American teenager—by day, she was a high school student; at night, she was Elvis's girlfriend. In 1967, Elvis and Priscilla were married in Las Vegas

Since her days with Elvis, Priscilla went on to become her own woman, of course. She's an actress, an author, a producer and mother to Lisa Marie and a son, Navarone, who's 18. Priscilla says the Elvis she knew—and the life they led together—was very different from the one the public knew.

"I met a very vulnerable Elvis," she says of her first meeting with "the King." "I didn't really see him as a movie star. I got to see a side of Elvis that very few people got to see. He had just lost his mother a year before that and he was in the Army in Germany , a very foreign place to him. And he was just like a little boy, really…So I was someone that he really confided in and talked to at the time."

Priscilla says their world was like a bubble. "We had our own friends. We travelled with them constantly. We ate with them. We worked with them. We [took] trips and bus trips and planes and vacations, and it wasn't a real life. It was really our own world entirely with the same people. Elvis very rarely associated with anyone in Hollywood , believe it or not. He was a Memphis , Tennessee , boy and he would go back to Graceland and that was his refuge. That was where he, you know, thrived."

Priscilla says she tried very hard to raise a daughter who was grounded. But Elvis often would spoil Lisa Marie with lavish gifts. Priscilla says she would take the gifts—including a diamond ring he gave Lisa Marie when she was 6 years old—and put them away in a closet.

"He gave her a fur coat—a mink coat," Priscilla recalls. "I think he gave it to her for her birthday and I said, 'You're not wearing this. This is not for you. You're 5 years old. You're not wearing a mink coat. I'm sorry. Excuse me.' So I called him up and I said, 'What are you doing?' So it was just too much."

Priscilla says Elvis, who grew up very poor, just wanted to give his daughter things he didn't have.

"And even though a child doesn't put a lot on it, others put a lot on it," Priscilla says. "The comments from other people…that really bothered me because I didn't want her to grow up as we know many privileged children are. Excess is really horrible. If you're not ready for it, it really does disturb your judgment."

After Elvis's death, Lisa Marie moved to live full time with Priscilla in Los Angeles . Priscilla says she was worried about the effect of that city on Lisa Marie. " L.A. is not really a place to raise children," Priscilla says. "There's too much excess there. There's too much of everything there. And my battle was trying to keep her away from all of that, and that's why I sent her to a school about two hours away, thinking that would be a way of keeping her out of the scene."

There was even a time in which Priscilla tried to instil some sophistication in Lisa Marie. "I wanted you to go to school in Europe ," Priscilla says. "Study French. Be a model for the French, you know."

How did Lisa Marie like her introduction to continental culture? "She sent me to Europe ," she says. "Oh God, what a nightmare."

As everyone knows, Graceland was Elvis's beloved home. Since his death, it has become the No. 1 tourist attraction in Memphis and the second-most-visited home in the United States —right behind the White House.

However, the Presleys initially resisted opening Graceland to the public. "It took a long time to decide after he passed away," Priscilla says. "But there weren't really enough finances there to keep it going. We had a staff that was with us for years and years and years, and we had to let everyone go. It was a shock. We had estate taxes coming in, we had government taxes. … Again, it wasn't an overnight decision."

However, rumors have spread that the Presley family sold Graceland . Priscilla dismissed them simply, saying, "No, it is not sold."

The confusion, she says, stems from a recent licensing deal. "We were looking for years for a strategic partner to help us grow," Priscilla explains. "We've been open for 25 years now. We're a private company, and we thought, 'Gosh, we'd like to be able to reach those people who can't afford to come to Graceland . We have fans all over the world.' So we found this particular partner who was on the same page as we were and basically took the licensing, and that is really what was taken."

"See, they're two different things," Lisa Marie explains. "There's the Elvis Presley Estate, which [are] the things in the house and all of his stuff, which will never be touched. [We sold] 85 percent of the licensing and marketing—we still own 15 percent. But everything [in Graceland ] is still ours. It will never be touched. A lot of that money went back into the forming of a bigger company, which is going to expand it and make it even bigger and make it go places it hasn't been able to go." Although they are close now, Priscilla and Lisa Marie say it's only been in the last year that they have been really able to bond.

Lisa Marie Presley: I think it was just—we're so the opposite of each other, if you haven't noticed already. My demeanor immediately went into [that of] a 15 year old when she walked out here! I think it was just that she's got a china shop and I'm the bull that comes in. I mean, I'm more abrasive. She's very poised, which is great. And I'm the way I am. And I think that that just couldn't find a way to blend.

Oprah: How do you explain it, Priscilla?

Priscilla: I've probably been the force in her life that put discipline on her, which she needs, excuse me. And I think that's a good thing. I hope that it's a good thing! You know, I'm honest with her. In this business you find very few people who are honest; who will tell you the truth. And I think I'm that sounding board for her even though she does her own thing and always has done her own thing. So I'm the one person that has really been the one with the discipline and she probably [resented that.]

Priscilla says that she found out about Lisa Marie's first marriage, to musician Danny Keough, only on the day of their wedding by phone. But even that was better, she says, than how she found out about Lisa Marie's marriage to Michael Jackson. "There were helicopters over my home to see if she was coming over, see what I would do," Priscilla says of the press anticipating her reaction to the marriage. "Drown myself in the pool? I don't know," she adds jokingly. Finishing the story, Lisa Marie explains how she told Priscilla. "You called me and said, 'Oh God, there's helicopters above the house,'" Lisa Marie says. "'They're saying you married Michael Jackson.' And then I was silent."

Priscilla holds out hope to this day that Michael Jackson actually loved Lisa Marie, and that their marriage involved legitimate reasoning on his part. "I want to believe he [loved her]," she says. "I would hate to believe that it was only for one thing, whether it be to maintain his popularity or to be associated somehow to her and her father. I really don't want to go there with that. It's just hard for me to believe that people do that. I mean, and she's really lovable."





Despite trying to shield her from a music career and the "big shoes" she'd have to fill, Priscilla is supportive of Lisa Marie's singing. And what would Elvis think about Lisa Marie's new career? "I think he'd be so proud," Priscilla says. "I think he'd probably be giving her all kinds of advice. I think he'd also be there, trying to tell her what songs to sing and what not to sing and how to sing it. He had to have his hand in a lot of areas like that. I think he'd be really pleased." In the notes for her CD, Now What, Lisa Marie wrote a special message to her parents, thanking them and calling the three of them an "eternal unit, never broken."
 
Ok, priscilla really bugs the crap out of me! lol at the eend, I hope he didn't use her, i really want to believe that etc. Lisa wasn't sure after the divroce if michael really loved her, thats extremely sad because its obvious he did. I'm glad Karen Faye (if true) actually came around and told Lisa that Michael has always lvoed her. =)
 
Thank you so much for that interview Dori! You're such a sweetheart!

And I want to kill that Priscilla! She's a racist **** and I still have her high up on my MJ hit list. Grr. =\

As if Michael would have used her for her Dad lmao.
 
Ok, so I guess they met around the time Michael went on the Dangerous Tour in Asia. His artist friend mentioned it in this article:

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S? is that Stephanie? she looked jealous as hell when Diana sat on Michael's lap lmao :lol:

Nope. :D The lady I'm thinking of has the initials SM.

Priscilla holds out hope to this day that Michael Jackson actually loved Lisa Marie, and that their marriage involved legitimate reasoning on his part. "I want to believe he [loved her]," she says. "I would hate to believe that it was only for one thing, whether it be to maintain his popularity or to be associated somehow to her and her father. I really don't want to go there with that. It's just hard for me to believe that people do that. I mean, and she's really lovable."

:smilerolleyes: Wasn't she saying in another interview w/ Oprah that she thought he had used her to become part of the Presley empire? Yeah ok. :doh: Unfortunately nothing in this interview about when exactly they met. Thanks for posting it though.

Thanks mandy543 for the article. :lol: at Brett saying Cilla was happy about LMP's marriage to MJ. She must have been really good at hiding her feelings. So what month & yr was MJ in Asia for the Dangerous Tour?
 
who is it?!!?! :p

PM me please?

Michael was in Bangkok in August, 1993 -- the last leg of his Dangerous Tour. I'm thinking maybe they met the summer of 93?
 
Thank you so much for that interview Dori! You're such a sweetheart!

And I want to kill that Priscilla! She's a racist **** and I still have her high up on my MJ hit list. Grr. =\

As if Michael would have used her for her Dad lmao.

no problem! =)
 
umm and isnt it funny how Priscilla and Elvis were about 10 years apart too like Michael and lisa? lol
 
If they met in late 1992 or early 1993.. I think they were saying the dated for 4 months right after she separate from her husband. They couldn't said that they actually dated before she separate, right? I think they might actually fell for each other long before that, I think may be they actually in love for almost a decade? If they could tell the truth, people wouldn't called their marriage a sham.

Now it make more senses if he actually thought of her as a love of his life and hang on to it the the very last moment.. I could have believe that even they only spend 5-6 years together... for his circumstance.. but almost a decade make much more sense. Their love story are so sad... but I'm happy to know that he was very happy for such a long period, not only 20 months.
 
i agree CTU...its sad and VERY sad how this relationship didn't work out. But it also makes A LOT of sense from both parts, Lisa and Michael if they were actually in love for a decade. and imo, they never fell out of that.
 
If they met in late 1992 or early 1993.. I think they were saying the dated for 4 months right after she separate from her husband. They couldn't said that they actually dated before she separate, right? I think they might actually fell for each other long before that, I think may be they actually in love for almost a decade? If they could tell the truth, people wouldn't called their marriage a sham.

Now it make more senses if he actually thought of her as a love of his life and hang on to it the the very last moment.. I could have believe that even they only spend 5-6 years together... for his circumstance.. but almost a decade make much more sense. Their love story are so sad... but I'm happy to know that he was very happy for such a long period, not only 20 months.


Yeah, but there was sooooooo many ups and downs in those 10 years. :(

I think Lisa gave him a lot of happiness and a lot of grief, but I don't doubt that there was love on both sides.
 
stephanie mills? or the supposed mother of....lol

Could be her too. They dated in the 70s. Could be the other SM too who did an interview w/ ET saying they had an intimate personal relationship. lol at the supposed mother of...

I still don't think either of them is the "other girl" MJ means when he is asked if he's even been in love before.
 
I found this on other board:

Lisa said on Oprah show that she and Michael were during "stuff" together doing that time of the interview. I'm sure Liz knew about it and that's why she said he is so shrewd! Lisa said when Michael said another girl, he was talking about her. And Oprah had that shock, stupid look on her face. But didn't follow it up! So typical of her! Oprah had showed a clip of the interview that she had with Michael! I also remember Brett Livingston-Strong saying Michael and Lisa got reacquainted in 92 when he invited them both to his home. I think it was in November of 92. And right after that, Michael and Lisa went to Atlanta, GA to work with former President Jimmy Carter. That was in April of 92. Michael and Former President Carter had a charity together for sick children. Michael went to Atlanta with Lisa. Michael was wearing a shirt button up to the neck and Lisa had on a jean jacket and was wearing cross earrings. It caused a stir when it was reported that Michael was there with Lisa Presley!

About MJ and LM's relationship and how they met

[ Brett Strong: They just fell head over heels in love and that love just grew and grew to the point where they just married.
ET's John Tesh: Internationally renowed, Brett Livingstone Strong will now be known as Hollywoods hottest match maker. This Australian creator has made millions with his paintings and his sculpting. He has two National monuments now displayed in Washington, DC. and is currently working on his third, a tribute to our space program. And now he is the guy who bought two musical super powers to the altar.
Brett Strong: Obviously Lisa was not looking at Michael for his fame or looking at him for his success. She was purely looking at him because he is a true gentleman. She never questioned all those accusations against him.
ET's John Tesh: Strong is a long time friend of both. He originally talked the pop music icon to meet with Lisa to hear her sing. It was to be a business deal.
Brett Strong: I told Michael what if I came up with and brought to you the best person on this planet who has not been exposed, and is beautiful. Michael's reponse was "who the heck are you talking about. Who is it?." I said Lisa Marie Presley. Michael's response was "No! She can sing?" She is fantastic. Michael said "well Brett obviously I am interested. Can you get me a tape or something?"
ET's John Tesh: Well Lisa did not want to send a tape. She wanted to perform in person. So Brett arranged a meeting at his house in November 1992 when this picture was taken of the three of them and Bretts' son, Stason.
Brett Strong: In fact that was the day they first came together and where Lisa performed a couple of song's for Michael. It was a fabulous experience, for I think both of them. And Michael really felt really honored. He was like "Wow! I am Lucky. You know." And Lisa felt the same.
ET's John Tesh: And it turns out that Michael loved more than just her singing. They ran off and got married. Brett said that Lisa did not even tell her mother. And Brett said you can forget all the rumors you hear about why the couple married. This is the real deal.
Brett Strong: It is a purely a very simple story. It's a love affair that grew from a friendship.
 
:yes:I remember seeing a picture of Michael and LM in a magazine at that Jimmy Carter function. She looked really punked out with straight blond hair and he was well. . . Michael. I didn't realize that was way back in mid 92 though.:)
 
:yes:I remember seeing a picture of Michael and LM in a magazine at that Jimmy Carter function. She looked really punked out with straight blond hair and he was well. . . Michael. I didn't realize that was way back in mid 92 though.:)

Never seen that pic, would love to see it!

I remember the pic of them where she has the cross earrings and jean jacket. Michael was holding her hand and was wearing red. He looked so good! :D
 
This is the ET video that goes with the quotes below. Shows that Brett Strong arranged their meeting in Nov. 1992. The transcript is just the last part of the video, there's more..



I found this on other board:

About MJ and LM's relationship and how they met

[ Brett Strong: They just fell head over heels in love and that love just grew and grew to the point where they just married.
ET's John Tesh: Internationally renowed, Brett Livingstone Strong will now be known as Hollywoods hottest match maker. This Australian creator has made millions with his paintings and his sculpting. He has two National monuments now displayed in Washington, DC. and is currently working on his third, a tribute to our space program. And now he is the guy who bought two musical super powers to the altar.
Brett Strong: Obviously Lisa was not looking at Michael for his fame or looking at him for his success. She was purely looking at him because he is a true gentleman. She never questioned all those accusations against him.
ET's John Tesh: Strong is a long time friend of both. He originally talked the pop music icon to meet with Lisa to hear her sing. It was to be a business deal.
Brett Strong: I told Michael what if I came up with and brought to you the best person on this planet who has not been exposed, and is beautiful. Michael's reponse was "who the heck are you talking about. Who is it?." I said Lisa Marie Presley. Michael's response was "No! She can sing?" She is fantastic. Michael said "well Brett obviously I am interested. Can you get me a tape or something?"
ET's John Tesh: Well Lisa did not want to send a tape. She wanted to perform in person. So Brett arranged a meeting at his house in November 1992 when this picture was taken of the three of them and Bretts' son, Stason.
Brett Strong: In fact that was the day they first came together and where Lisa performed a couple of song's for Michael. It was a fabulous experience, for I think both of them. And Michael really felt really honored. He was like "Wow! I am Lucky. You know." And Lisa felt the same.
ET's John Tesh: And it turns out that Michael loved more than just her singing. They ran off and got married. Brett said that Lisa did not even tell her mother. And Brett said you can forget all the rumors you hear about why the couple married. This is the real deal.
Brett Strong: It is a purely a very simple story. It's a love affair that grew from a friendship.
 
Priscilla P grinds my gears. :mat: Mike is already popular himself dumb chick, he don't need elvis' shine, Mike got shine of his own.
 
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WTF is with the "S"? So we arent allowed to say names here now? This forum is going to crap!
 
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