Do u believe any of the conspiracy theories?

What do u believe happened?

  • His death was faked and hes living somewhere else

    Votes: 19 6.1%
  • Its a PR stunt and he'll be back

    Votes: 15 4.8%
  • He was murdered/his death was planned by others

    Votes: 158 50.5%
  • It was a fatality - he was overstressed

    Votes: 145 46.3%

  • Total voters
    313
  • Poll closed .
I dont think he was murdered, but he was exploited and in that exploitation, resulted in negligence and Michael dead. Whether they meant to let Michael slip away is irrelevant to me, he did and they should pay for all their parts in this.
 
i don't know about you, but to me this pic speaks loud and clear.
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Why? I don't get it, What does that medal around his neck represent?
 
I dont think he was murdered, but he was exploited and in that exploitation, resulted in negligence and Michael dead. Whether they meant to let Michael slip away is irrelevant to me, he did and they should pay for all their parts in this.

I agree Dom
The guilty must pay either here or in the here after. Here the law states
proven beyond a reasonable doubt _ but in God eyes they have no defense
he knows all _ of course not all are belivers but God gives me hope that no
one will get away with this and not be judged harshly for thier part whatever
that may be.
 
I agree Dom
The guilty must pay either here or in the here after. Here the law states
proven beyond a reasonable doubt _ but in God eyes they have no defense
he knows all _ of course not all are belivers but God gives me hope that no
one will get away with this and not be judged harshly for thier part whatever
that may be.

Well said!
 
Anyways, I all thought I would just let you know that the Michael Jackson at the O2 performances was not the real Michael Jackson. It was a double. Michael Jackson sent a double to the O2 press conference to appear as him. Apparently, this Michael Jackson double had plastic surgery to resemble Michael exactly. And the one you saw at the press conference had a terminal illness that he was dying from becaus his death was long overdue. I am not surprised by the fact that the real Michael Jackson used a double to pretend to be him. Many fans suspected that this guy was an imposter because of the way he walked, acted, and behaved.
 
Anyways, I all thought I would just let you know that the Michael Jackson at the O2 performances was not the real Michael Jackson. It was a double. Michael Jackson sent a double to the O2 press conference to appear as him. Apparently, this Michael Jackson double had plastic surgery to resemble Michael exactly. And the one you saw at the press conference had a terminal illness that he was dying from becaus his death was long overdue. I am not surprised by the fact that the real Michael Jackson used a double to pretend to be him. Many fans suspected that this guy was an imposter because of the way he walked, acted, and behaved.

I'm not sure about all this and at what times he actually used doubles but I will say that when the rumors started about MJ being sick last year I thought back to this post and press release about E'Casanova and I thought to myself this is probably who Halperin was talking about.....

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40841&highlight=casanova
 
Anyways, I all thought I would just let you know that the Michael Jackson at the O2 performances was not the real Michael Jackson. It was a double. Michael Jackson sent a double to the O2 press conference to appear as him. Apparently, this Michael Jackson double had plastic surgery to resemble Michael exactly. And the one you saw at the press conference had a terminal illness that he was dying from becaus his death was long overdue. I am not surprised by the fact that the real Michael Jackson used a double to pretend to be him. Many fans suspected that this guy was an imposter because of the way he walked, acted, and behaved.

I saw a beautiful interview with Mark Lester ex child star (its not on youtube though to post here) good friend and godparent to MJ children,said Michael stayed with him during the time in UK and said it of course it was him. He was there with him. He said they went to see Oliver on his recent tripand in the past they had been to see Billy Elliot and MJ had been upset at the swearing and said he wouldn't have taken the children if he'd known. Mark said Michael wanted his daughter Harriet MJ god daughter to have a role in the concerts.

In the interview he said he couldn't understand the allegations that mj was a drug addict, as he never even saw him take so much as an asprin and was petrified and had phobia of needles. As he is an acupuncturist and osteopath and he gave MJ acupuncture once and he was terrified of needles and wouldn't have it again.


http://blog.taragana.com/e/2009/07/10/mj-hated-needles-says-pal-mark-lester-15758/
 
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it would make my life neally complete if MJ were to suddenly appear in maybe 5 years time,i can just imagine the commercials on tv/radio/ 2nd coming/flashes,a concert advertised and no name on the bill,just a spotlight,all HOPE went for me when i first heard this,it didint matter that i never got to meet him just as long as there was another person in the world like myself who gave the world a message of hope.Mchammer also said something about losing hope on his twitter,couldnt watch the memorial as i only want to see one person i care about,mj the person.

he said he would never do drugs because of his kids,i dont know if they can be seen as drugs the way mj would look at them as they were sleeping aids,i dont know what to believe anorexic,overdose from being clean and cutting one drug out,murder,under qualified doctor who fumbled with instruction sheet to work aparatus,phone lines cut,where were mj kids,theres probably more than a 1000 questions that need answering?

what about the reports that he was waving at fans earlier in the morning on the 25th?
where are the fans?what was he wearing?he was packing the night before presumly for london its been quoted by Dileo.
 
what about the reports that he was waving at fans earlier in the morning on the 25th?
where are the fans?what was he wearing?he was packing the night before presumly for london its been quoted by Dileo.[/QUOTE]

omg really,i hvnt heard this anywhere that he was waving to his fans on 25th
 
It wasn't E'Cassanova at the O2 - I've met him and I have a photograph of us. Yes, he looks like Michael but not THAT much and he's never actually had plastic surgery to look like Michael, he just happened to look like him. Lucky guy! ;)
 
what about the reports that he was waving at fans earlier in the morning on the 25th?
where are the fans?what was he wearing?he was packing the night before presumly for london its been quoted by Dileo.

omg really,i hvnt heard this anywhere that he was waving to his fans on 25th[/quote]

although the quote is from joe jackson he said he got the information from mjs security,so it was probably around 10:00am to 1:30pm on the 25th june.
the results have to come out of the tests to see if mj was off a certain drug he was usually on but trying to get ready for the concerts so wanted to be as healthy as possible.
 
Conspiracy theories? Something to be thinking. It is not impossible. Everything in this world is possible, but it is something that generates much controversy that people do not believe that. I just know that everything is very confusing and wrong from the day on June 25. Time is passing, passing, passing and nothing. This became a great novel. I prefer not to say anything and just stay with my thoughts and opinions on this just for me. I will just sit waiting (for the wait is almost eternal) the scenes of the next chapter and continue watching closely the events.​
 
so what happened to E'casanova i mean has he died or is he still alive?

I have no idea.



Conspiracy theories? Something to be thinking. It is not impossible. Everything in this world is possible, but it is something that generates much controversy that people do not believe that. I just know that everything is very confusing and wrong from the day on June 25. Time is passing, passing, passing and nothing. This became a great novel. I prefer not to say anything and just stay with my thoughts and opinions on this just for me. I will just sit waiting (for the wait is almost eternal) the scenes of the next chapter and continue watching closely the events.​

I agree with this ashtanga.
 
I have no idea.
I found very strange the Casanova has not gone to the memorial. I always thought he was close to Michael. Besides being a big fan of Michael and the best performer. But he was not there. Nobody knows him. Casanova disappeared from the map.
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I agree with this ashtanga.
Everything is really confusing and weird. :scratch:I say all this is a great puzzle and the pieces have to go to adding a few to get an opinion. But this puzzle many pieces do not fit.
 
I found very strange the Casanova has not gone to the memorial. I always thought he was close to Michael. Besides being a big fan of Michael and the best performer. But he was not there. Nobody knows him. Casanova disappeared from the map.


Is this his official Myspace? http://www.myspace.com/ecasanovafansite
If so, looks like he's updating his blog posts....​
 
Is this his official Myspace? http://www.myspace.com/ecasanovafansite
If so, looks like he's updating his blog posts....

Yes! Apparently he does not answer the posts of people. But it is strange no one have seen him. Well, I think it would be at the memorial. I know that the page on Twitter has been deleted. It is strange that silence. This is only my observation.​
 
with conspiracy theories i try to keep an open mind. michael lived an eccentric life and surrounded himself with questionable people so anything and everything should be considered i feel. in time most of the theories circulating will be laid to rest - well hopefully, but with any celebrity death theres always those who believe theres more to it. remember when princess diana died? some still believe she was murdered by secretive government forces who didnt want her to marry even though theres no evidence which would stand up in a court to back up those conspiracists. basically some will always see conspiracys because they tend not to trust any news and always think theres more to it but ill keep an open mind and see what happens - if theres more to it, it will come out. if theres not, it wont. until then its interesting to investigate and speculate about possible causes which led to the demise of the king of pop.
 
also with conspiracy theories, its my hope they come with a definitive cause because if they dont then myself and others will speculate. theres been many things throughout history that appear like conspiracys but no evidence was ever found but it would be a mistake to say government agencies dont cover and lie because they do and theres often other nasty people who work in various agencies that dont always do their job. remember when twa800 exploded off new york. that lead to massive conspiracy theories and myself included believe there was probably more happening than the official government line says. likewise roswell. whether michael jacksons death is added to the list who knows?
 
I agree Dom
The guilty must pay either here or in the here after. Here the law states
proven beyond a reasonable doubt _ but in God eyes they have no defense
he knows all _ of course not all are belivers but God gives me hope that no
one will get away with this and not be judged harshly for thier part whatever
that may be.

Yes I agree with this,

I just hope God see's to it that Michael is vendicated.

I know Vengance is in God so if they pay now or later god will handel it.

But, I do want the real truth to come out about who Michael really was. He deserves for all the people who hurt him and lied about him be shown to all for the liers they are.

Please God show them the truth!
 
I want to change my vote! I think it was foul play. Makes me sick to think it, but this board and the detectives here have really changed my mind.
 
I want to change my vote! I think it was foul play. Makes me sick to think it, but this board and the detectives here have really changed my mind.

Welcome to the Force. He was murdered - it was a plot.
 
with conspiracy theories i try to keep an open mind. michael lived an eccentric life and surrounded himself with questionable people so anything and everything should be considered i feel. in time most of the theories circulating will be laid to rest - well hopefully, but with any celebrity death theres always those who believe theres more to it. remember when princess diana died? some still believe she was murdered by secretive government forces who didnt want her to marry even though theres no evidence which would stand up in a court to back up those conspiracists. basically some will always see conspiracys because they tend not to trust any news and always think theres more to it but ill keep an open mind and see what happens - if theres more to it, it will come out. if theres not, it wont. until then its interesting to investigate and speculate about possible causes which led to the demise of the king of pop.

I do not believe all conpiracy theories either only those backed up with facts, and sometimes you can see they are blatantly lying, like they did with MJ during the trials. I don't trust anything from media sources, they may give you bits of truth at best but not the whole picture.

I think there is evidence to suggest things are awry with Princess Diana death,the official story is that the driver was drunk and it was an accident as there was so much alcohol in him but according to experts, the guy would not have been able to stand up if he had that much alcohol in him, if you look at the clip, of him before he drove he was not drunk at all, other facts are he had no alcohol in his home, he wasn't known to be a drinker, and he had no liver damage associated with alcoholism. The fact they do not investigate this is astonishing, and they put out an official line that the majority believe hook line and sinker without ever questioning things, people really should question things where the facts do not add up. Also there was a fiat uno witnessed in the tunnel at time of crash which later disappeared, they later traced owner who was ex MI5 agent (UK equivalent of FBI)who was later found dead in the fiat uno. no they do not report this in the media very much.

There are multiple reasons for why Diana would be killed and she did write a letter which paul burrel had saying she thought someone might try and kill her in a crash. She was more popular than the rest of royal family, noone wanted to see charles, they ony wanted to see diana,they had become very unpopular due to perceived treatement of her, she had taken on humanitarian causes, homelessness Aids when that was unpopular, and more recently highlighting political issues such as the land mines. within a short time after her death the royal family regained its popularity. Her boyfriend was dodi al fayad, I don't know how relevant that is,and rumours of her being pregnant which of course have been disputed ,and we have no factual evidence of that,but as proved above they lied on the alcohol, I doubt she would have married Dodi or become pregant, because of all the problems it would have caused, she was very aware, but who knows. I know this is off topic, on Michael, but just explaining some facts around her death, and how they just give you an official line regardless of the facts.
 
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Was the $3 million insurance payout that the estate just received from Lloyds as part of the coverage for the shows?

WHAT IF Michael DIDN'T pass the second physical? Would the insurance company then cancel the entire policy, including the first 10 shows, and none of the shows would have been covered?

Would the shows have still gone forward without insurance coverage? I doubt it, seems to me that would be a HUGE liability issue or would the shows have been forced to cancel or postpone and AEG's investment up to that point would be either greatly compromised as they search for a new insurance provider or this whole O2 deal ends up null and void?

Would the rehearsal footage have gone for the same price had Michael still been alive, NOT PASSED the second physical and the shows had been cancelled due to the lack of any insurance coverage?

I wonder when the second physical was requested by the insurance company? Was it recently when pictures started surfacing in the media and people started to ask questions about Michaels health/weight or was that part of the initial policy drafted, the first one done now and the second one would be right before the shows?

Going by what is being reported about the contract, 10 shows definitely, with a chance of 31, and SUPPOSEDLY up to 50, AEG knew there was a possibility they would need additional coverage so was the policy drafted to reflect that? Why draw up a "possible" 50 show contract if you don't know for certain there would be the insurance coverage on the additional shows?

Just wondering.......
 
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I think lost in all the nonsense in the GD thread from court on Monday were 2 important statements that TMZ posted when Mrs. Jacksons attorney made comments in open court regarding the insurance policy and AEG agreement.....Just what do those documents contain? -_-


One of Katherine Jackson's lawyers made an interesting comment -- law enforcement is looking at various policies and contracts, such as the AEG insurance policy.


The judge just ordered that Katherine keep quiet about what's in the various AEG agreements. It's interesting ... Katherine's lawyer said she might want to use the AEG agreement in a non-probate proceeding.
 
Conspiracy theories? Something to be thinking. It is not impossible. Everything in this world is possible, but it is something that generates much controversy that people do not believe that. I just know that everything is very confusing and wrong from the day on June 25. Time is passing, passing, passing and nothing. This became a great novel. I prefer not to say anything and just stay with my thoughts and opinions on this just for me. I will just sit waiting (for the wait is almost eternal) the scenes of the next chapter and continue watching closely the events.​


:better: yes
thanx you for posting your thoughts
 
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