When do you think Michael and Lisa last spoke?

[The_Dance]

I forget sometimes how stunning Lisa was when she was with Michael

 

[Shamonee]

that ruins it lol

EXACTLY what I was thinking, lmfao but I didn't want to say anything to sound rude...

 

[elusive moonwalker]

i thik the article means around 75 approx thats what most reports say. mj met her at an elvis show

 

[Ernestine]

Now Lisa Marie is a different story. She became embittered because Michael moved on and didn't kiss her behind and that included the matter of her having his children. People can make excuses for her all they want, but a woman marrying a man who makes it no secret that he wants to have a family---and decides she doesn't want to have his children, how do you think that makes a man feel? That's a real slap in the face to a man when a woman he loves doesn't want to have his children. Not to mention her ex-husband, Danny and her mother, Priscilla, who were always in her marriage and drumming it into her head that she was being used. Lisa could also be very moody and outright nasty when she wants to be. It wasn't ALL Michael--even though he could be stubborn at times--Lisa Marie was also a piece of work. Lisa met her match with Michael. She played him and he played her right back--to the point that she could never get him out of her system--even despite her verbal rants against him in the media. Unlike LaToya, Lisa Marie wasn't threatened with physical violence if she didn't repeatedly pubically berate Michael. Lisa did that on her own out of spite and as a means to 'get back' at Michael or to 'get his goat' so to speak to lure him into a media war of words. Classic case of the saying 'Hell hath no fury like a scorned woman'. Michael didn't fall for it, he handled her nonsense like a gentleman--yet he was always labeled as being the most immature of the two (go figure).

I totally DISAGREE with this post. I read a lot of stuff about Lisa and Michael's marriage, and I understand completly why she didn't want to have children with him. I think Lisa did felt used during the marriage, and probably had every right. MJ did use her per say for his image including at the MTV awards and on other instances. Who can forget how pissed Lisa looked at the MTV awards in 1995? I think it was reported that was the first time she saw MJ in weeks. In addition, Michael went behind her back and had a child with another woman because Lisa didn't want to bring a child into an unhappy relationship. Everyone always described MJ as child-like. No one can be child-like and not immature. Its obvious Lisa was more in tune with reality than Michael in thier marriage.

Did she love Michael? It was obvious because she was still with him even after they divorced and he was "married" to Debbie. I think the guilt that she is feeling now stems from the indifference she felt towards him and not being able to stop his destructive behavior. Frankly, I think she had a right to be upset and was less harsh than she could have been. She never wavered that she loved him.

Everyone knows the life of Michael is a soap opera. Lisa just chose not to be the ride or die chick in the matter.

 

[drea97]

I wonder Lisa regretted for divorced Michael Jackson.

 

[dori727]

Well the Jackson family allowed LMP to see Michael Thurs before the burial and have a pic of MJ & LMP kissing in the funeral program. Debbie wasnt invited to funeral, didnt have private viewing nor is there any pics of her in funeral program. I think Katherine is aware that there was something special between those two.

where did you hear or read this? If it's true then it actually makes sense the fact that she was "late". And also, Lisa didn't go to the private memorial when everyone had seen and shared private time with Michael. So she probably asked to have some alone time with him.

 

[TurtleDove]

Sometimes opposites not only attract, but also compliment each other. That's how I've seen their union. Now I wish they had rekindled their relationship, maybe the outcome would be different? Who knows...

Perhaps. I think the common demoniator here though was the drug use and that obviously never changed so who knows if the situation could have worked out differently. I do think though they changed, grew. I think Michael would have been able to give more of himself as he learned to do so by becoming a father. And I think Lisa would have felt less "over her head" with the whole thing. But she said she left because she felt "powerless". I'm not so sure that would have ever changed. Michael was always going to be who he was and him being able to share that power with someone else, or rather surrender it, I don't know. I do believe that he wouldn't be dead now or wouldn't have had the scandal plagued last decade plus if Lisa was still in his life.

Janet did also say at the time that they were very good for each other. I think she was of the opinion that they complimented each other.

according to the interview of the' resturant owner of the after funeral celebratio' to tv guide network


Lisa also came to the afterparty post funeral ..she definitely hung out with the Jackson clan allnite long..

And karen faye said on facebook that lisa and janet spent most of the night chatting together

Do you have a link to this TV guide interview?

There is no doubt in my mind that Lisa Marie & Michael truly loved each other.

It takes a STRONG man to be with a STRONG woman - and yes, Lisa Marie Presley is an H.B.I.C. (Head Bitch In Control) Diva in my book.

I remember LMs blog posting after Michael's death was everywhere. She really feels guilty for leaving him. And I really think her biggest regret is saying no to Michael's wishes of being a father. I'm sure she looks at MJs babies and says "these could've been my kids."

Yes, at the time Lisa Marie wanted a solo career and having more children were not on her itinerary as well. She also tried to get adjusted to Michael's life, which is non-stop working and his overwhelming fame. Lisa Marie had every right to make her choice.

But she feels guilty for something that really wasn't under her control. I wish I could give her a hug.

I don't think Lisa is as strong as she'd like people to believe. I think she is strong but usually a tough exterior hides something not-so-strong underneath. I think Lisa's bark is bigger than her bite. That's why she got so hurt by whatever happened between she and Mike.

Lisa was not interested in a singing career when she was with Michael. I think she did want children with Michael but she wasn't willing to bring them into an unstable relationship. Esp. one that involved drugs. Remember she was a 9 year old who watched her dad do drugs. She said she knew they were bad for him but didn't know what they were. She could tell that he was different though. It's understandable that she wouldn't her children to repeat the same thing she went through. She also worried about the fight MJ would give her if they did have children because unlike Debbie, Lisa had NO plans on abandoning her children by just signing them over to Michael.

From the Arizona Republic 2003

Did Michael show any interest toward your musical side during your marriage?

I didn't have any musical interests particularly at that point. I wasn't planning to do anything, contrary to popular belief at the time. I had no interest in a record. I was more interested in trying to be a wife, trying to be supportive and basking in the idea that someone else was even more in the limelight than I was.

I saw her with that snake Diane Sawyer who was making fun of her for being with Michael.
I SO dislike Diane Sawyer. I thought Lisa Marie could have been more supportive of Michael in this interview. Yeah, she sort of defends him, but not really.

I would have said, "Yeah, Diane, I found him attractive, find him attractive, what of it? Why do you NOT find him attractive, Diane? What's wrong with YOU?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsRK0GFSF-k

Lisa, I think, was exasperated at this point. She'd been saying that she loved him and the relationship was real and no one believed her. I think that is why she didn't respond in the manner that you described. Imagine having to repeat yourself like a broken record? Lisa has had to do that ever since the news came out about she and Michael.

I wonder if the ANY of the Jacksons are aware of the nasty, snarky things Lisa said about Michael in her interviews during the past 6 years? Personally, I would not even be able to look at her right now without resentment knowing how she repeatedly talked smack about my now dead loved one. The Jacksons are way bigger than I am because she sure WOULD NOT get an invite from me to my beloved relative's funeral. She would just have to mourn him from afar.

I bet if it was the OTHER WAY AROUND, do you think 'Cilla would invite Michael to a funeral for Lisa if Michael said mean statements about her? You all know the answer to that one.

Maybe, unbeknownst to us, she and Michael made amends before he died OR she maybe apologized to his family. I would like to think, because to be honest, I don't know how or why she would be there after she tried to make him look bad in interviews all the time.

Of course they know. . . they have eyes and ears but they have forgiven her. And unlke us, they know the real story of what truly went on. They knew about the drugs and probably knew that is why Lisa left. They knew that she loved him and was trying to help him.

And by being there they knew how much she loved him. That the things she was saying were coming from hurt and anger.

Forgiveness is a powerful thing. I'm surprised so many Michael fans could learn to learn something from practicing it.

lisas on a guilt trip. going on about him in her blog etc. wonder how many who attended were. the one thing fans will never have

I think she does feel some guilt but that doesn't negate the pain she is feeling.

It's been widely reported that Lisa was upset and crying during the entire service. That kind of pain and emotion isn't sole due to being on any guilt trip.

Well the Jackson family allowed LMP to see Michael Thurs before the burial and have a pic of MJ & LMP kissing in the funeral program. Debbie wasnt invited to funeral, didnt have private viewing nor is there any pics of her in funeral program. I think Katherine is aware that there was something special between those two.

I also noticed that pic of MJ and Lisa in the program. That didn't surprise me but I'm sure Lisa wished they used a different one because we all knew how she felt about the MTV awards! The family doesn't know Debbie and they know Lisa and has for years so it's obvious to me that she'd be included and Debbie wouldn't.

 

[dori727]

I forget sometimes how stunning Lisa was when she was with Michael

yes, lisa was very Beautiful at that time, and besides this day, she always appeared very happy while she was with Michael. oh, and i think its super cute how she is playing with his sleeve.

 

[sumadiner]

In 1965 Michael Jackson was 7 years old. I doubt he met Lisa Marie Presley. First off Michael wasn't heard of outside of Gary, Indiana in 1965. Also, Lisa Marie wasn't born until 1968, so unless Michael was omnicient, I doubt he knew about her in 1965.

Also while her father, Elvis Pressley, performed in Las Vegas, Lisa Marie never lived in Las Vegas as a child. She was back in Memphis with her mother.

the person article above had loads of mistakes, michael michael did meet lisa when he was 17


here is an old interview of his from Jet magazine:


t was their love of privacy that prompted media probes that resulted in published stories that stated the couple knew each other only eight months before beginning their romance that led to matrimony.

The truth is that Michael, now 36, and Lisa Marie, 26, were just a couple of youngsters when they met in Las Vegas 20 years ago. He was 16 and she was 6. The Jackson Five, with Michael out front as the lead singer, appeared at the MGM Grand Hotel April 9 through 23, 1974, and August 21 through Sept. 3, 1974.

Michael, taking time out from his studio recording session in New York to give EBONY an exclusive interview, recalls: "Her father [Elvis] used to bring her to catch our show where all nine of us [Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon, Randy, Maureen 'Rebbie', LaToya and Janet, then 8] were performing... It was a real family show -- the only family show in Las Vegas which allowed children to come." He continued:

"Elvis would bring his daughter, Lisa Marie. She would sit right in the front and bodyguards would be right there. Afterwards, she would be escorted backstage and I would meet her and we would talk. This happened quite often. She would come again, again and again. It was quite an event.

"After that, I didn't see her for quite a while. You know, it was like ships passing in the night -- hello and goodbye." Lisa Marie married musician Danny Keough in 1988 and two children (Danielle, now 5, and Benjamin, 2) were born to this union. Differences that the couple did not reconcile resulted in a "quickie" divorce in the Dominican Republic last spring.

Three years ago when he started the DANGEROUS album, which featured such hits as "Why You Wanna Trip On Me," "Remember The Time," "She Drives Me Wild" and "Can't Let Her Get Away," Michael said their relationship reached a new plateau. "We sort of went out together. Then we would talk on the phone... I noticed that we had come closer. We went to Las Vegas for The Jackson Family Honors [in 1993]. We later traveled to Atlanta for (former) President Jimmy Carter to visit children, but no one knew that she was there with me.

"The brilliant thing about us is that we were often together but did not let anybody know about it. We got to see each other that way over the years. We were really quiet and comfortable with each other. That's pretty much how the dating started happening." It was during this period that Michael said their relationship changed from being good friends to lovers.

As a sensitive songwriter who deals with feelings that run the range of human emotions, Michael has an uncanny sense of the chemistry in writing songs. For him, that chemistry is inspiration. If you listen to the lyrics of "Remember The Time" and "I Can't Let Her Get Away," in the 1991 release of his DANGEROUS album, you conclude that Lisa Marie could have provided the inspiration.

She certainly provided the kind of support he needed in 1993 when he was going through legal trials and tribulations. "I was on tour and it seemed like I was in Armageddon -- Armageddon in the brains," Michael remembered. "All these horrible stories were going around about me. None was true. It was unbelievable. Lisa Marie would call. I could count my true friends on one hand. She was very, very supportive the whole time. That really impressed me. She would call and be crying. She was angry and really wanted to choke people.

"But, really, what impressed me was earthquake day in L.A. [June 28, 1993]," Michael says with an air of excitement. "On earthquake day, my phone just happened to be working. I was terrified -- almost out of my brains. I thought the world was ending. I got a phone call that day and it was from her, right after the quake."

Later, in London, where he underwent treatment for addiction to prescription drugs, Michael said that Lisa Marie gave him the impression that their relationship was moving them toward each other in ties that bind. "She would call me, but she didn't always get through to me. And that made it very frustrating for her. I got all the messages... She was very concerned."

It was after these experiences that Michael says he came to that moment when he had to say "This Girl Is Mine" and "The Way You Make Me Feel." (Michael chuckles at the play on the words of two of his best-selling songs.)


http://site2.mjeol.com/interviews/jet-magazine-interview.html

 

[IRide4MJ4Ever]

I wonder if the ANY of the Jacksons are aware of the nasty, snarky things Lisa said about Michael in her interviews during the past 6 years? Personally, I would not even be able to look at her right now without resentment knowing how she repeatedly talked smack about my now dead loved one. The Jacksons are way bigger than I am because she sure WOULD NOT get an invite from me to my beloved relative's funeral. She would just have to mourn him from afar.

I bet if it was the OTHER WAY AROUND, do you think 'Cilla would invite Michael to a funeral for Lisa if Michael said mean statements about her? You all know the answer to that one.

Maybe, unbeknownst to us, she and Michael made amends before he died OR she maybe apologized to his family. I would like to think, because to be honest, I don't know how or why she would be there after she tried to make him look bad in interviews all the time.

I'm sure they are aware of what she said but, I can understand why they would have invited her to the funeral. Corey Feldman was invited so I don't see why it's a surprise she would be there too. At the end of the day they all went their separate ways and will continue to do so.
I don't expect mother Jackson, Rebbie, Janet, Tito, Randy, Marlon, Jackie or even Jermaine to ever talk bad about her. That's not their style regardless of how they may feel privately.

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

and i think its super cute how she is playing with his sleeve.

I think she's nervous knowing MJ is going to kiss her in front of the whole world!

Im still surprised LMP & MJ appeared nude in the YANA video. Ive always wondered how that came about.

 

[Dublinproud]

It's a crying shame someone couldn't get these 2 in a room while MJ was still alive as I always felt there was something between them that no one could ever break.My heart goes out to Lisa and its a lesson to us all...Sometimes there just is no tomorrow.

 

[IRide4MJ4Ever]

Well the Jackson family allowed LMP to see Michael Thurs before the burial and have a pic of MJ & LMP kissing in the funeral program. Debbie wasnt invited to funeral, didnt have private viewing nor is there any pics of her in funeral program. I think Katherine is aware that there was something special between those two.

Debbie was invited to the service.

 

[sumadiner]

I think she's nervous knowing MJ is going to kiss her in front of the whole world!

Im still surprised LMP & MJ appeared nude in the YANA video. Ive always wondered how that came about.

according to the director of the video, michael was so shy and asked him to ask Lisa

Wayne Isham, videostatic.com interview - May 2007:

"Having done videos for so long, nothing strikes me as strange anymore. Everything has a unique twist. But, the one that ranks at the top is probably Michael Jackson "You Are Not Alone." We had planned out all these elements for the video and then Michael had this idea where he wanted to use this Greek, classical-styled, artistic imagery. And, he wanted to appear in it naked with his wife, Lisa Marie Presley. Like they were Greek gods. It had nothing to do with the video we were doing, but I said, "OK, that's cool. We can shoot it." We set it up and as we're ready to shoot, he leads me into the trailer and says, "Have you asked her?" He wanted me to ask her to appear in the video. He was too shy. So I asked. And we did it."

 

[sumadiner]

This is what various other people that personally knew them have said about them.

What others said about them

Janet Jackson, USA Today, 1995:

She also defends his (Michael's) marriage to Lisa Marie Presley, "a true sister to the 10th power. Lisa's wonderful. She's beautiful inside and out. They're good for each other." She was disgusted when her brother's sex life was probed in June's Prime Time Live interview. "For Diane Sawyer to ask all the other questions and then have someone else ask that - why?" says Jackson, rolling her eyes. "I'm sick of this whole stupid thing about, 'Do they have sex?' Somebody asked me that and I said, "No, they just sit there, look at each other and masturbate.' I mean it's STUPID. I wish people would shut the fuck up and leave him alone."


Debbie Rowe, interview unknown, 1997:

"He did, he loved her very very much. Still does, still cares about her very much. But it didn't work out, and he was devastated."



3T, TV Hits, 1997:

Q: So what about Uncle Michael and Lisa Marie getting a divorce?

TJ: They've had so much pressure on them, especially from the press - it must be hard to stay together.

Taryll: The press only report the bad things. They don't know how much love there is between them.

Taj: Nobody ever said about Michael and Lisa Marie, "oh, that's nice, I hope it lasts". Everybody wanted to kill the relationship before it had a chance.

3T, Smash Hits, 1997:

Taj: We only got to meet her twice, but she was great. We all got along fine. It was sad when it ended, because we know how special she was to our uncle. Right from the beginning, everyone wanted to see it fail. A lot of it was media pressure and rumors - maybe she just didn't want to be under the spotlight.


Joseph Jackson, autobiography 2004 (translated from German):

"After the allegations he married Lisa Marie. In their first TV interview the two newlyweeds were asked if they have sex. Can you imagine a reporter asking Paul McCartney the same question shortly after he married Linda? Would any reporter ever ask newlyweds if they have sex? Why else should two people marry - to not have sex? The question was an insult but Lisa the little jewel answered, 'yes, yes, yes' - I love her for that. And so does Michael."

"Michael never had to be afraid of Lisa marrying because of money. She had enough herself. He knew that all she wanted was his love."

"Lisa Marie was and still is Michael's big love of his life. When I think about them I always have to smile to myself. Her love for him warmed my heart."

"Contrary to all the rumours they are still near to each other. During the time Michael had two children with Debbie Rowe she was a good friend to him. But of course the media just reports the bad stuff and so nobody could read about Lisa Marie and Michael meeting in South Africa, or that they were going out very often. Debbie too, knew that Michael will always love Lisa Marie, and I see it the same way. We never met Debbie, but with Lisa the family stayed in contact even after the divorce. She has a special place in Michael's heart."


Rebbie Jackson article, OK! magazine 1998:

One family member she has yet to to get the chance to accept is Michael's wife Debbie Rowe, the mother of his heir Prince Michael Jr. "I have never met Debbie, so I dont know what she's like," she explains. But one 'outsider' Rebbie is happy to befriend is Michael's first wife, Lisa Marie Presley. She says: "Her six year old son Benjamin is so in love with my two daughters - he flirts with them all the time when Lisa's visiting my home!"


Donald Trump interview, and his book:

"It was romantic. Later I got to ask him how things were going and he said, 'Great. I just got to kiss the most beautiful girl in the world. I hope I'm worthy of her. I think I might marry her.'"

"For a while, those two were really getting it on."



Article about Tony Senecal, butler at Mar-a-Lago, 2005:

Among the many guests who've come and gone over the years, he only describes as "strange" the 1994 visit of Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley. They took the three-story Tower Suite with massive carved wood bed and a spiraling iron stairway that rises 75 feet to a tower balcony — the highest point of any residence on the island. At dinner they sat at opposite ends of the huge marble table until Senecal told them their seating arrangement didn't suit.

"She moved to his end," he said.



Jimmy Jam(music writer/producer scream )article/interview, date unknown:

Jam can talk about how cuddly Jackson is with his wife, Lisa Marie Presley. Jam can talk about how Jackson wore essentially the same outfit to the studio every time - whether in New York, L.A. or Edina: an oversized cotton shirt over a T-shirt (usually white), black jeans, penny loafers (sometimes white socks) and makeup.

"Michael is the nicest guy in the world. I remember reading a quote from Lisa Marie when they got married. And someone asked what she liked most about him, and she said, `He's the nicest guy in the world.' I laughed when I read that. But he really is. It sounds corny, but he's definitely the nicest guy I've ever met."



Dick Zimmerman, Québécois magazine translation - Aug 1994:

"A kind of magic emerges from this young couple. I really did not know what awaited me when I arrived, but what I saw made me think of the scene which two in love act as if they were alone in the world, in spite of the crowd which surrounds them. That only comes when two people are deeply enthusiastic about one another. Like everyone, I had heard rumours which surrounded their marriage several weeks ago. But it was necessary that I see them with my own eyes to work out the depth and sincerity of their love. This love, neither could hide from me. It will be enough for you to realise it by looking at my photographs, especially those which I took of Lisa. There are attitudes which cannot be faked. In fact, I did not even need to guide Michael and Lisa. I did not need, for example, to ask them to intertwine. They spontaneously did it and most naturally. I had to only say to them to place themselves at such or such a place, and the rest came naturally. They spoke to each other in a very soft tone, the tone of two people very much in love with one another."

"It's like when you see two people in the street who're in love and act like there is no one else around them. I saw it with my own eyes.

If you look at the photographs, you'll notice that there is something going on, especially with Lisa. I didn't have to tell them to put their arms around each other, they just did it.

Having spent an entire day with them, I saw some magical things. They talked to each other very quietly like lovers would. For the first shot, I told them to stand close. They immediately put their arms around each other and Lisa cuddled right up to Michael. I told Lisa to sit in a chair and Michael to kneel beside her. He put his arm around her and pulled her head to his chest, while Lisa tenderly took hold of his hand.

Between shots, they were whispering and giggling to each other. They were so happy it was hard to keep their attention on the camera. They were so much into each other.

They are so happy with the photos. Michael put Xs over the ones he liked, and the pages of photos were covered with Xs. But the loving ones with Lisa, showing their happiness, were his favourites."

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

according to the director of the video, michael was so shy and asked him to ask Lisa

Wayne Isham, videostatic.com interview - May 2007:

"Having done videos for so long, nothing strikes me as strange anymore. Everything has a unique twist. But, the one that ranks at the top is probably Michael Jackson "You Are Not Alone." We had planned out all these elements for the video and then Michael had this idea where he wanted to use this Greek, classical-styled, artistic imagery. And, he wanted to appear in it naked with his wife, Lisa Marie Presley. Like they were Greek gods. It had nothing to do with the video we were doing, but I said, "OK, that's cool. We can shoot it." We set it up and as we're ready to shoot, he leads me into the trailer and says, "Have you asked her?" He wanted me to ask her to appear in the video. He was too shy. So I asked. And we did it."

Thanx for that. Michael knew LMP is hot and was proud to show her off.

Debbie was invited to the service.

How do you know that? I would have thought that if she was invited, that she would have gone.

 

[Justthefax]

Did MIchael ever want to be a father to Lisa's children? I think Danny was still a pretty active father to his and Lisa's children. If memory is correct, Lisa Marie and Michael never shared a house. Lisa lived in L.A. with her kids, and Michael lived at Neverland.

The relationship seems to be pretty doomed from the start.

 

[comet1]

im glad they never had kids, if they did, lisa wouldve gotten full custody and michael wouldnt have been able to see them as much

 

[myfavouritewintercoat]

Now Lisa Marie is a different story. She became embittered because Michael moved on and didn't kiss her behind and that included the matter of her having his children. People can make excuses for her all they want, but a woman marrying a man who makes it no secret that he wants to have a family---and decides she doesn't want to have his children, how do you think that makes a man feel? That's a real slap in the face to a man when a woman he loves doesn't want to have his children. Not to mention her ex-husband, Danny and her mother, Priscilla, who were always in her marriage and drumming it into her head that she was being used. Lisa could also be very moody and outright nasty when she wants to be. It wasn't ALL Michael--even though he could be stubborn at times--Lisa Marie was also a piece of work. Lisa met her match with Michael. She played him and he played her right back--to the point that she could never get him out of her system--even despite her verbal rants against him in the media. Unlike LaToya, Lisa Marie wasn't threatened with physical violence if she didn't repeatedly pubically berate Michael. Lisa did that on her own out of spite and as a means to 'get back' at Michael or to 'get his goat' so to speak to lure him into a media war of words. Classic case of the saying 'Hell hath no fury like a scorned woman'. Michael didn't fall for it, he handled her nonsense like a gentleman--yet he was always labeled as being the most immature of the two (go figure).

I agree with this, thats what I feel happened too IMO.

 

[TurtleDove]

I think she's nervous knowing MJ is going to kiss her in front of the whole world!

Im still surprised LMP & MJ appeared nude in the YANA video. Ive always wondered how that came about.

According to Lisa she didn't know he was going to kiss her. I can't recall the interview but she said that he wouldn't tell her. The only thing he told her was what he was going to say and knowing nothing else it made no sense to her. (the "nobody thought this would last" line)

I'll have to see if I can find the quote. It was in some interveiw she did in 03 or 05.

But as the video shows once he leaned in to kiss her she simply just went for it!

 

[IRide4MJ4Ever]

Thanx for that. Michael knew LMP is hot and was proud to show her off.


How do you know that? I would have thought that if she was invited, that she would have gone.

CNN confirmed through Jackson reps she had been invited.
Some people choose to grieve in private. There is nothing wrong with that.

 

[Oceangirl]

Did MIchael ever want to be a father to Lisa's children? I think Danny was still a pretty active father to his and Lisa's children. If memory is correct, Lisa Marie and Michael never shared a house. Lisa lived in L.A. with her kids, and Michael lived at Neverland.

The relationship seems to be pretty doomed from the start.

they had an apartment in New York, MJ was working on his album history there, she was visiting him all the time .

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

Did MIchael ever want to be a father to Lisa's children? I think Danny was still a pretty active father to his and Lisa's children. If memory is correct, Lisa Marie and Michael never shared a house. Lisa lived in L.A. with her kids, and Michael lived at Neverland.

The relationship seems to be pretty doomed from the start.

Michael is quoted in They Dont Care About Us saying:

"I have a wife and 2 children who love me."

Michael was married to LMP at the time. Michael lived with LMP often in NY when recording HIStory as MJ was recording some of HIStory in NY.

LMP was in the studio during recording of SMILE. She was also on the set of SCREAM and was asked to appear in the video but was too shy....but yet appears naked in the next video lol

 

[dori727]

yes, it is a shame. someone should have made those two talk, even if it was only to end up as friends. My hope was on janet for this lol unfortunately it never happened. =(

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

CNN confirmed through Jackson reps she had been invited.
Some people choose to grieve in private. There is nothing wrong with that.

No nothing wrong with that at all. Thanx for the info.

According to Lisa she didn't know he was going to kiss her. I can't recall the interview but she said that he wouldn't tell her. The only thing he told her was what he was going to say and knowing nothing else it made no sense to her. (the "nobody thought this would last" line)

I'll have to see if I can find the quote. It was in some interveiw she did in 03 or 05.

But as the video shows once he leaned in to kiss her she simply just went for it!

This contradicts an earlier post here but that happens all the time. If you can find the quote that would be cool

 

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

Now Lisa Marie is a different story. She became embittered because Michael moved on and didn't kiss her behind and that included the matter of her having his children. People can make excuses for her all they want, but a woman marrying a man who makes it no secret that he wants to have a family---and decides she doesn't want to have his children, how do you think that makes a man feel? That's a real slap in the face to a man when a woman he loves doesn't want to have his children. Not to mention her ex-husband, Danny and her mother, Priscilla, who were always in her marriage and drumming it into her head that she was being used. Lisa could also be very moody and outright nasty when she wants to be. It wasn't ALL Michael--even though he could be stubborn at times--Lisa Marie was also a piece of work. Lisa met her match with Michael. She played him and he played her right back--to the point that she could never get him out of her system--even despite her verbal rants against him in the media. Unlike LaToya, Lisa Marie wasn't threatened with physical violence if she didn't repeatedly pubically berate Michael. Lisa did that on her own out of spite and as a means to 'get back' at Michael or to 'get his goat' so to speak to lure him into a media war of words. Classic case of the saying 'Hell hath no fury like a scorned woman'. Michael didn't fall for it, he handled her nonsense like a gentleman--yet he was always labeled as being the most immature of the two (go figure).

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I totally DISAGREE with this post. I read a lot of stuff about Lisa and Michael's marriage, and I understand completly why she didn't want to have children with him. I think Lisa did felt used during the marriage, and probably had every right. MJ did use her per say for his image including at the MTV awards and on other instances. Who can forget how pissed Lisa looked at the MTV awards in 1995? I think it was reported that was the first time she saw MJ in weeks. In addition, Michael went behind her back and had a child with another woman because Lisa didn't want to bring a child into an unhappy relationship.

Hmm...using her? No, I disagree. Attending the MTV awards with his wife wasn't using her. The kiss I think was more of a 'you doubted us, we're still here' kind of thing. Tabloids have been saying things about MJ's sexuality long before he married LMP. I know you are thinking about the accusations, but I really believed he loved her (and thus wouldn't have used her).

I think the way you phrased the last bit: having a child behind her back, isn't exactly correct. Its very likely that mentioning Debbie's offer occurred during an argument. Remember, one of the interviews posted said she called and asked for a divorce.

sumadiner, the commentary on LMP & MJ by Dick Zimmerman was great. Thanks for posting it.

 

[sumadiner]

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Did MIchael ever want to be a father to Lisa's children? I think Danny was still a pretty active father to his and Lisa's children. If memory is correct, Lisa Marie and Michael never shared a house. Lisa lived in L.A. with her kids, and Michael lived at Neverland.

The relationship seems to be pretty doomed from the start.

According to lisa and even that dick head bob jones( michael former pr man) during the marriage michael spent most time living at lisa place.

if he wants busying with travelling or flying places according to them his base in LA was lisa house;he didnt spend that much time in neverland during the marriage apart from when he was still courting her.


it seems lisa never wants to give up her house because she did the same with nicolas cage , they never offical moved in/lived together; they both still had their own houses

 

[souldreamer7]

I don't know if this is true but I heard he called her 2 months before he passed but she missed the call and didn't call him back.

*if* he did call her 2 months before... wow it seems as a lot of ppl Michael tried to cintact around that time frame and got the message machine/voicemail..

sighs...

 

[Justthefax]

yes, it is a shame. someone should have made those two talk, even if it was only to end up as friends. My hope was on janet for this lol unfortunately it never happened. =(

Well actually if you believe what tabloids have reported, Janet and Lisa Marie spent the evening together at the repast after Michaels funeral.

Who knows?

 

[sumadiner]

Well actually if you believe what tabloids have reported, Janet and Lisa Marie spent the evening together at the repast after Michaels funeral.

Who knows?

it wasnt just the tab that reported this, karen faye said the same thing that janet and lisa spent most of the night chatting.

But that isnt surprising even after the divorce lisa was still friends with janet and rebbie and i have seen pics of her and katherine hugging at janet after party in 1997