Is there proof that Sony tried manipulating the 2005 trial to get a conviction?

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I remember reading something either here or at the KOP Boards saying that Sony was somehow involved in the trial, trying to get a conviction, so they could get the Sony/ATV catalogue away from him because if he was in jail, he'd automatically lose it when the time to renew(?) came around or something like that. As per usual, the person who said it didn't provide sources. :smilerolleyes:


Does anyone have any PROOF of this?


I know this forum is primarily for stuff about MJ's death, but I think this relates in the long run.
 
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I remember hearing that it was Mottola who bought off Bashir to twist the interview.
 
Here is an interesting article:
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Malnik with 'Blanket' before the rancorous split with Jackson.Al Malnik is doing some serious spinning in the world press right now in regard to Michael Jackson. He's been quoted in several publications about regarding his "friendship" with Jackson, saying that he's godfather to the pop king's youngest son, Blanket, and that, last Malnik knew, he was executor of his estate. Yesterday, Malnik's wife, Nancy, executed a photo dump on her Facebook page as a tribute to the late star. The photos show Malnik and his family with Jackson in 2003.
Here's how the Daily Mail characterized Malnik's relationship with Jackson in its story regarding the new photographs:
In pictures taken from the same party, Jackson and his children are allegedly pictured with the children of close friends Al and Nancy Malnik.The 76-year-old American millionaire has triplets Jarod, Spencer and Nathan, who are now 11. Mr Malnik had been friends with the singer for more than ten years and the singer stayed with him at the height of the child abuse scandals. Jackson is godfather to Spencer, who is understood to be featured in the pictures sitting on the steps of Mr Malnik's Miami mansion with Paris.
This is laughable. The two men were indeed friends at one time, but there's a reason the photographs date all the way back to 2003. The two men had a falling out after Jackson began to believe that Malnik, who has known Mafia ties and was once a close associate of Meyer Lansky, was trying to wrangle Jackson's rights to half the Beatles catalog of songs from him, rights that are worth an estimated half billion dollars.
The source of this information is Gordon Novel, a character of intrigue himself from the Kennedy assassination, Watergate, and Waco. Novel worked in the Lyndon Johnson administration and spent years working as an investigator for former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark. Vanity Fair's Maureen Orth first reported that Novel had met with Jackson in 2005 in an attempt to get the investigator to find proof that Malnik was part of a conspiracy involving Sony's Tommy Mottola and film director Brett Ratner, a Malnik protoge, to take over his assets.
"According to Novel, Jackson said he was lured to Malnik's house in Miami Beach by film director Brett Ratner to see a house so beautiful it would make him catatonic," Orth wrote. "He said that once he was there, however, Malnik, who Jackson claimed had Mafia ties, wanted to put his fingers in the singer's business. Jackson also said he received a call from Tommy Mottola while he was there, which aroused his suspicion..."
I contacted Novel over the weekend, and he confirmed meeting with Jackson at Neverland Valley during the time of the 2005 trial. He told me that he was originally contacted by Jackson's brother Jermaine and that Michael and the family wanted Novel to gather proof of the Malnik/Mottola conspiracy and further find evidence that Mottola was behind the criminal child molestation charges. The ultimate goal was to blow the trial out of the water so Jackson wouldn't have to face prison time.
Novel said he flew in March 2005, about a month into Jackson's trial, from his home in New Orleans to the Los Angeles home owned by Jackson's parents, where he stayed several days before Jackson finally had him over to Neverland Valley. He said the two of them met in a bungalow on the property before Jackson drove him around the ranch in an old pickup truck.
"The whole thing centered on Tommy Mottola setting him up," Novel told me. "Mottola and him were at odds, and Jackson's information was that Mottola and Malnik got together to **** him. He said he believed Malnik was representing the Mob."
He said Jackson had special loathing for Malnik because he felt betrayed by him. When I told him that Malnik was saying that Jackson had made him executor of his estate, he was dubious.
"He had split up with Malnik," said Novel. "He never said anything about Malnik being executor of his will. And based on how pissed off Jackson was at him at the time, I wouldn't believe it on a bet."
When asked what Jackson was like at the meeting, Novel didn't hesitate: "He was afraid, very very afraid. He didn't want to go to jail and didn't think he would be treated very well there."
Was he fearful that he would be killed in prison?
"Yeah, you can say that," Novel said.
But he also said that Jackson's mental state was "excellent" and that the pop star was lucid and extremely intelligent. He didn't believe Jackson was on any drugs during the meeting.
I asked Novel if he believed Jackson's theory about the conspiracy against him. He said that he thought Jackson was not guilty of the criminal charges and that he was probably set up, but he had no idea if Mottola was involved.
"He thought that Mottola was Mob-connected and that Malnik was representing the Mob, but I can't vouch for any of that shit," Novel said. "I don't have anything against Tommy Mottola and don't know if what he thought was true or not. I don't want to get on Mottola's bad side. My sources in New York say he's a dangerous guy."
Novel never conducted an investigation and said that, in the end, Jackson "deadbeated" him. He said that when he got to the airport to fly home, there was no ticket as promised by Jackson. He said that he contacted Jermaine and that the family paid for his flight. He said Jackson still owes him $25,000 for his consultation at Neverland. (Orth reported in Vanity Fair that Jackson apparently took a lot of Novel's advice, but at that time, Novel claimed Jackson owed him just $5,000.)
"He was a tremendously talented deadbeat," Novel said. "Michael Jackson would deadbeat King Kong."
It's clear that whether Malnik had any ulterior motives in befriending Jackson, the pop star ended up believing he was an enemy out to get his Beatles songs. We'll have to wait and see if the world media continues to eat out of Malnik's hand or if it actually reports the truth about the relationship and its bitter end.
http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2009/06/the_malnik_familys_michael_jac.php
 
As far as I know there's no cold hard proof that Bashir was somehow coerced into twisting Michael's words by Sony or anyone else. I was always of the opinion that Bashir acted on his own accord, he had a history of misrepresenting facts, Mez brought it up at trial, he was disciplined over one doco he's done that manipulated the truth. Although... Couldn't hurt to look into it further. Sony was out to get Michael, and who knows their tactics.
 
I think it was just someone one michaeljackson.com but Ive also heard that Bashir's brother works for Mottola. But I havent found anything solid yet.
 
As far as I know there's no cold hard proof that Bashir was somehow coerced into twisting Michael's words by Sony or anyone else. I was always of the opinion that Bashir acted on his own accord, he had a history of misrepresenting facts, Mez brought it up at trial, he was disciplined over one doco he's done that manipulated the truth. Although... Couldn't hurt to look into it further. Sony was out to get Michael, and who knows their tactics.

Uri Geller MJ “friend’ was the one who introduced Michael to Bashir. There is connection Bashir, Geller, Shumuley. Two of them were “friends”. I won’t be surprised if there will be a connection to Sony also trough those “friends”.
 
That's a very interesting article, i don't know much about that Malnik guy but it sounds bad.
Also the investigator guy said Mottola was dangerous and he wouldn't want to get on his bad side...
Makes you wonder.
 
Here is an interesting article by Roger Friedman. Check out the bolded part. It makes me wonder what if anything MJ new about that meeting!

http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/index...id=179:2004-december&catid=167:2004&Itemid=75

FYI - Friedman: [...] 'Thriller' Manager May Be Back
Roger Friedman's column on December 10, 2004:

With rumors swirling about prosecutorial evidence, DNA tests and financial ruin, Michael Jackson may finally be getting the picture of the state he's in.

His CD box set, "The Ultimate Collection," has sold only 14,000 copies so far. You'd think this would jolt him into some kind of reality — and maybe it has.

I'm told that about three weeks ago, Jackson's ex-manager, Frank DiLeo, was summoned to Sony Music's inner sanctum to give advice about the box set and all future Jackson-Sony enterprises.

The meetings occurred around the time of the regular Sony-ATV Music Publishing board meeting. The attendees included DiLeo, Sony Music chief Donnie Ienner and Michael's sometime lawyer John Branca, who sits on the Sony-ATV board.


Branca probably looks like a genius now to Jackson's other lawyers, who are still owed fees by the singer. Branca collects a controversial, but automatic, 5 percent fee annually on Jackson's Beatles-catalog revenues, thanks to a deal he cut several years ago.

DiLeo was the true mastermind behind Jackson's King of Pop era in the early-to-mid-'80s, engineering the process that made "Thriller," "Bad" and "Dangerous" top sellers.

But by the time of Jackson's first child-molestation scandal in 1993, DiLeo was out in the cold. More recently, other Jackson associates from the period who had held on — Bob Jones, from public relations and Bill Bray, who did security — were pushed out as well.

If Jackson is acquitted of all charges in his upcoming trial, it's DiLeo who has the best shot of bringing him back.

I'm told he's already working on a Jackson brothers album and tour that would reunite Michael with the Jackson 5 and the era of pre-scandal innocence.
Of course, first Jackson has to be acquitted. And that won't be so easy.

Even now, Jackson's defense team is still lagging in interviewing witnesses and developing an iron-clad strategy for court, I am told by sources.

So far, the team has done more work talking to character witnesses who have no bearing on the case than to those who might have been eyewitnesses to the events being discussed.

Source: FoxNews; Fox411 Roger Friedman by special permission / MJFC
 
Here's another interesting article by RF about Mottola threats:
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,57512,00.html
has more about sony, atv loans, this is just what relates to MJ, Mottola
***** May Claim 'Threats' by Mottola

Friday, July 12, 2002
By Roger Friedman
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Michael Jackson
***** May Claim 'Threats' by Mottola
The Michael Jackson-Tommy Mottola standoff is heading into new territory. A serious source close to Jackson told me yesterday: "There is correspondence between Michael and Tommy that will show why Michael has done what he's done. When it comes out it will clear the whole thing up. It's all about Tommy goading Michael to respond the way that he has."
My source says that on more than one occasion he has been present during speaker calls between Jackson and Sony Music President Tommy Mottola in which Mottola "threatened" Jackson. "Not physical threats, but certainly the threat that Michael would be destroyed and his career would be over if he didn't agree to Tommy's terms. It's Tommy saying 'I'll ruin you.'"
The basis for all this? "The Beatles catalog," says my source. "That's it in a nutshell. This has all been done by Tommy in an effort to squeeze Michael financially. Tommy wants the Beatles catalog."

Very chilling.
 
excerpts from The Trials of Michael Jackson by Lynton Guest

"In the middle of all this, Tom Sneddon received some exclusive information. Although at first sight it appeared tangential to his investigations, it was something Sneddon decided was dynamite, the missing piece of his evidential jigsaw. The King of Pop was gonna take a fall. Sneddon had no doubt about that now. The tip-off he received came via New York but had ultimately been formulated and sanctioned thousands of miles away, in Tokyo."

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"Jackson was also going much further, implying that Tommy Mottola was actively engaged in an attempt to sabotage his, Jackson's, career, hence the use of the word 'devilish.' Michael Jackson had no idea how close he was to the truth yet how far away he was from understanding the reality of what was occurring. He thought it was about CD sales and marketing. It was actually about survival."

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"What Sony wanted at the end of it all was ownership of Jackson's back catalogue, including 'Thriller.' Ohga and Morita were also in the process of negotiating a deal with Jackson's lawyers to acquire half of Jackson's ATV music publishing interests. Morita was determined to push this deal through no matter what. He certainly did not let his moral outrage extend to pulling out of a lucrative money-spinner. But total control was on his mind. That would mean getting Jackson out of the Sony ATV music publishing company altogether at some point. To achieve this it would be necessary, eventually, to destroy Jackson's career."

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"He (Ohga) completed the purchase of half of ATV Music, which was renamed Sony ATV. In 1999, he oversaw the huge borrowings Michael Jackson took out with the Bank of America using his stock in Sony ATV as collateral. Indeed Ohga encouraged it. If Jackson defaulted, the Bank of America would own his shares and as far as Ohga was concerned the bank was a much more reliable partner for Sony than the wayward pop star. Ohga knew the initial loan would not be enough and that Jackson would be back for more."

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"Michael Jackson did indeed need more...and more. Then came Living with Michael Jackson. It was time to pass some information to the Santa Maria District Attorney's Office. Tom Sneddon's case was, at this stage, either incomplete or essentially deficient, depending on who you believe. He had no evidence of abuse prior to the broadcast of Bashir's programme...He desperately needed something else, something which would lock all the pieces together."

"The information concerning Jackson's finances, which neither Sneddon nor anyone else could have guessed, gave the prosecutor exactly what he required. Michael Jackson's career was in the doldrums, Sony could give proof of that. His borrowings were such that if the investigations proceeded to a trial, it could well bankrupt the singer as he would be forced to default on his loans. To Sneddon, the knowledge was crucial."

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"The source of the leak was carefully concealed. If my information is correct, even from the Santa Barbara DA. I have been told that the story emanated from Tokyo but was delivered from New York. Something 'very, very devilish' had indeed been going on. It is unsurprising that Sony's lawyers were so concerned Paul Russell had put two and two together they tried to intimidate him into silence."

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"Even without Living with Michael Jackson, Norio Ohga believed that eventually Jackson's borrowings would overtake him. Then Sony could move. Suddenly, with the investigation by 'Mad Dog' Sneddon, and the passing to the DA of the financial information, everything was about to come to a head. It was now more crucial than ever that Sony's true role remained out of the prying eyes of the media and the public."

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..."(O'Bryan) told the court that he had tracked Jackson's finances between 1999 and 2004. It is interesting to note these two dates. The so-called 'forensic' accounting began in 1999, the year when Jackson first began borrowing from the Bank of America, thus it covered a period when Jackson's financial situation was at its worst. We either have to accept that the two dates are the same by coincidence or that they were deliberately chosen on the basis of the information from Sony."

"O'Bryan told the court that he had only seen one balance sheet relating to Jackson's finances. It dated from 2002 and had shown the singer to be in debt to the tune of $285 million. Once again, the date of 2002 fits the Sony information exactly as it covers all the various loans Jackson took out against his shares in Sony ATV. The final loan was made in 2003. Could that be another coincidence? The 2002 balance sheet would have covered the initial tranche of loans carried forward. The cut-off at 2004 ensured that all the borrowings and interest charges were included."

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"My sources within Sony told me that throughout the second half of 2005, after the Jackson trial, those in the know were happy simply to wait for the singer to default on his loans to Fortress. Their behind-the-scenes deals allowed them first refusal should Jackson be forced into selling any of his Sony ATV shares and they had been in talks with Fortress for some time about the issue."

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the book, though, ended with the story that eventually, Michael's loans caught up with him and he was pressured into selling half of his 50% share, leaving him with 25%. so the author says Michael was then no longer on the board and had no more say in the running of the company. but isn't Frank Dileo there as his representative? dunno. still, after reading the book, i came to a deeper understanding of the conspiracy Michael was talking about way back then.
 
IMO it was part of the plan of forcing him to involuntary bankruptcy.

Conspiracy To Force Michael Jackson Into Bankruptcy Revealed
In what could be one of the biggest conspiracies in entertainment history, documents have been sent to Michael Jackson, and his representatives, which reveal a deliberate plan by some former attorneys as well as associates and advisors, to force Mr. Jackson into involuntary bankruptcy.

The documents reveal that former attorneys actively solicited other attorneys, vendors and creditors to "join in a petition to place the client in involuntary bankruptcy."

Mr. Jackson who, on June 27, 2006, announced sweeping organizational changes, has instructed his legal team to investigate and file claims against those responsible for conspiracy, bad faith, and self dealing. These efforts may also result in civil and/or criminal charges, where appropriate. In addition, there is a strong possibility that these documents will be forwarded to the U.S. Attorney General for review and possible involvement.

"Mr. Jackson is neither shocked or surprised by these revelations," says Raymone K. Bain, Michael Jackson's General Manager. "Based on the timing of events that have impacted his personal and professional life in recent years, he has long been suspicious that some of those whom he entrusted to act on his behalf, and to advise him with respect to his personal and business affairs, may not have always acted in his best interests."

Source: Raymone K. Bain / MJJForum
 
Im surprised this thread hasnt had more attention as this is the bigger picture regarding to what happened to Michael.

It's believed that Michael didnt sign his Will in July 2002 but rather it was the deal with Sony that Michael signed that agreed that he would get his masters to his own recordings in 7 years = July 2009!!

Once Michael owned his own masters again, Sony no longer receives 50% royalties from MJ's music. Michael would have made enough money soon enough with his own music to buy out Sony and reclaim full ownership of his ATV catalogue.

Sony would loose their biggest client. Michael would then be free to take his catalogue and his masters anywhere he would want. With a new tour making money and possibly a new album too, Michael would financially be set again.

Sony couldnt have this, so they tried to ruin him. Michael wouldnt go down without a fight and within weeks to reaching that date of July 7, he was finally bumped off.

Now the catalogue and Michael's masters stay with Sony.

Oh and who is making all the money in the increased surge of Michael Jackson sales???? SONY!!!!!

**** SONY!!!!!!

Mottola and Branca and all the others who set MJ need to go down. We know all about them as does the Jackson family. Now the media and the court system need to know. Joe is right when he said that Murray is just a FALL GUY!
 
Im surprised this thread hasnt had more attention as this is the bigger picture regarding to what happened to Michael.

It's believed that Michael didnt sign his Will in July 2002 but rather it was the deal with Sony that Michael signed that agreed that he would get his masters to his own recordings in 7 years = July 2009!!

Once Michael owned his own masters again, Sony no longer receives 50% royalties from MJ's music. Michael would have made enough money soon enough with his own music to buy out Sony and reclaim full ownership of his ATV catalogue.

Sony would loose their biggest client. Michael would then be free to take his catalogue and his masters anywhere he would want. With a new tour making money and possibly a new album too, Michael would financially be set again.

Sony couldnt have this, so they tried to ruin him. Michael wouldnt go down without a fight and within weeks to reaching that date of July 7, he was finally bumped off.

Now the catalogue and Michael's masters stay with Sony.

Oh and who is making all the money in the increased surge of Michael Jackson sales???? SONY!!!!!

**** SONY!!!!!!

Mottola and Branca and all the others who set MJ need to go down. We know all about them as does the Jackson family. Now the media and the court system need to know. Joe is right when he said that Murray is just a FALL GUY!

Don't get me wrong, I understand this and have heard stuff about it, but can you provide some sources on this bit of info? You know how I am. ;)

Thats an almighty big fuckin claim for no actual evidence in the background!

Did you get that from a fortune cookie? I would like the Estate to read this, and they may well will soon, this is claiming the Estate is corrupt! I think little boys should not play in big boys leagues!

Geez. As you can see, I've got a problem with lack of sources, but you need to calm the hell down. :smilerolleyes:
 
Don't get me wrong, I understand this and have heard stuff about it, but can you provide some sources on this bit of info? You know how I am. ;)
I completely understand as I am the same way which is why I try to post as many sources as I can however this info was discussed and there is no info online as the info that has been acquired by the Jackson family might being used in court.

Whether you believe it or not now thats up to everyone as individuals. Im by no means saying its the gospel. But it is consistent with the info we have seen physically and with the big picture of Sony's efforts in conspiring against MJ. The truth will come out in court of the next few years.

BTW you remember when MJ told Mottola before Invincible came out that MJ was leaving the label? It all started there. MJ knew Invincible was going to the last album for Sony and it was. Everything else that was released wasnt anything knew but helped MJ fulfill his contract with Sony so he could get out.

Just something I quickly found from wiki:
Jackson had expected the licenses to the masters of his albums to revert to him sometime in the early 2000s. Once he had the licenses, he would be able to promote the material however he pleased and he would also be able to keep all the profits. However, due to various clauses in the contract, the revert date turned out to be many years away. Jackson discovered that the attorney who represented him in the deal was also representing Sony.[116] Jackson was also concerned about another conflict of interest. For a number of years, Sony had been pushing to buy all of Jackson's share in their music catalog venture. Jackson feared that Sony might have something to gain from Jackson's career failing, since if his career did fail he would have to sell his share of the catalog.[1
Branca screwed MJ so he couldnt take his masters and leave until closer to the renewal date for the Sony/ATV catalogue in Sept 2010. By then Sony were expecting MJ to be broke (they tried to assist re article in this thread) and thought that MJ would default so they could just claim the Sony/ATV catalogue. It didnt work out that way as MJ always found a way out. That was until June 25.

Remember Mottola being on TV shortly after MJ died reminding everyone that Sony has hundreds of unreleased MJ tracks that they can release (make money off of)?
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BTW look at the date that Mottola is on TV, July 7 2009, the dayof MJ's memorial and the day he was supposed to get his masters back. It's as if he is appearing on TV to say without saying, "We got the job done." What a snake!
 
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Take General Maximo Overkill, for instance. That's his soldier of fortune's nom de guerre. His real name is Gordon Novel, and he moves in those spooky circles which he calls "high strange," where conspiracies flourish and cloak-and-dagger investigations overlap. He cut his teeth working for former New Orleans district attorney Jim Garrison on the J.F.K. assassination, and he boasts that he served as former attorney general Ramsey Clark's "Doberman" at Waco. Several weeks before the trial began, I was put in touch with him through Steven Saltzman—the son of a James Bond–film producer—in Monaco, who told me that Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine had been seeking Novel's advice on how to stop the trial. According to Novel, the Jacksons believed that it was all a grand conspiracy, that the accuser's mother was being paid by Jackson's enemies, who wanted to take control of his major economic asset, the Sony/ATV Music catalogue, which holds publishing rights to 251 Beatles songs and works by scores of other pop artists. Jackson claimed that the main conspirators were Sony Records; its former president, Tommy Mottola; and Santa Barbara County district attorney Tom Sneddon, the prosecutor, who also investigated Jackson in 1993. The catalogue is held jointly by Jackson and Sony, and Jackson's share is mortgaged for more than $200 million. If Jackson defaults, Sony has first chance to buy his half as early as this coming December. (A Sony spokesperson said, "We are not going to comment on any aspect of this.")

Jackson explained to Novel that the conspirators had introduced him to Al Malnik, a wealthy Miami attorney who had once represented Meyer Lansky. Malnik later helped Jackson refinance his loans. That was not what Jackson told Novel, however. According to Novel, Jackson said he was lured to Malnik's house in Miami Beach by film director Brett Ratner to see a house so beautiful it would make him catatonic. He said that once he was there, however, Malnik, who Jackson claimed had Mafia ties, wanted to put his fingers in the singer's business. Jackson also said he received a call from Tommy Mottola while he was there, which aroused his suspicion, but he did not tell Novel that he later put Malnik on the board of the Sony/ATV Music partnership. (Reached by telephone, Malnik scoffed at the idea of a conspiracy or of his having any Mafia ties. He said, "It does not make any sense." Ratner confirmed that he took Jackson to Malnik's house and that he considers Malnik a father figure.)

Jackson and Mottola have been at odds for years. In New York in July 2002, Jackson staged a public protest against Mottola with the Reverend Al Sharpton, calling him a racist and "very, very devilish." He called for a boycott of Sony, which is believed to have contributed to Mottola's ouster from the company six months later. Jackson is reportedly so frightened of Mottola that one of the reasons he surrounded himself with Nation of Islam guards in 2003 was that he thought Mottola could put out a hit on him. (Mottola could not be reached for comment.)

Jackson wanted Novel to find the links among these characters. Novel told me in March that "he believes he'll get convicted. He believes the judge, the D.A., and the Sony guys are a conspiracy to take over his money."

On March 17, nearly a month into the trial, Novel went to Neverland to strategize. Maximo's first thought was that Michael was in need of "an extreme makeover" of what he calls "imaggio." Jackson drove him around the ranch in an old pickup truck. "He acted like he was scared silly," Novel told me. His fear was "six foot thick. He kept asking me what prison was like. Can he watch TV and movies there? He wanted me to stop the show." When I asked Novel what that meant, he related that Michael said, "'I want this trial stopped.' He said the judge and Sneddon had rigged the game."

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It's great, but it's worth:


http://www.vanityfair.com/fame/features/2005/07/orth200507
 
Here is an article from July 10 2002 (notice the date?....a few days after 7 July 2002):
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,319537,00.html

Michael Jackson may sue Sony. As Jackson reiterates charges of industry racism, Rev. Al Sharpton acknowledges that his current initiative to help black musicians was prompted by Jackson's dispute with Sony over ''Invincible''
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Image credit: Michael Jackson: Lawrence Lucier/Getty Images/Newscom
LABEL CONSCIOUSNESS Jackson may sue Sony

Guess Michael Ovitz isn't the only entertainment bigwig who blames his career woes on a conspiracy. In widely reported remarks at yesterday's Rev. Al Sharpton-sponsored Music Industry Summit, Michael Jackson reiterated his charges that the recording industry is thoroughly racist, and that it launched a smear campaign against him as soon as he became as big a seller as Elvis Presley and the Beatles. Yet, even as Sharpton tried to expand upon Jackson's critique, extending it to the way all music companies treat all African-American artists (not just Sony and its chief Tommy Mottola, whom Jackson singled out Saturday as a racist, in remarks that Sharpton and many black music executives have disagreed with), the New York Times reported that Sharpton and lawyer Johnnie Cochran's current initiative to help black musicians really originated with Jackson's dispute with Sony, which the Times says may erupt into a lawsuit.

Jackson has spent the last couple of months complaining that Sony didn't do enough to promote and market ''Invincible,'' released last November on Sony's Epic label, which sold 2 million copies in the U.S. and only a few million more in the rest of the world -- lackluster figures by Jackson's standards. Sony says it has done plenty, having spent $50 million producing and promoting the album, but it balked at Jackson's request earlier this year for $8 million to shoot a third video for the album, the Times reports. But the dispute over the handling of ''Invincible'' grew out of a larger struggle between Jackson and Sony over Jackson's effort this year to renegotiate his contract with the label, where he has spent his entire adult career, those involved in the negotiations tell the Times.

At issue are two sets of assets. One is Jackson's master recordings, which Sony is supposed to turn over to him in seven years, but which he wants in three. (Owning those will mean he no longer has to split royalties with Sony.) The other is Sony/ATV, the music publishing company that Jackson co-owns with Sony, which holds the copyrights to several hundred thousand songs, including the catalogs of the Beatles and such Sony artists as Bob Dylan. (Last week, Sony/ATV bought Nashville publisher Acuff-Rose, which holds the rights to 55,000 country songs.) Both Jackson and Sony want to buy out each other's stake in the publishing venture, the Times says.

The Times quotes two people close to Jackson as saying he plans to sue Sony. ''If you look ahead to what can happen, it's in the courtroom,'' one of them told the Times. ''Then it gets interesting.''

Sharpton tells the Times he didn't know that the dispute between Jackson and Sony was that acrimonious when Jackson called him in May with the idea for the black musicians' initiative. ''Michael had told me he was involved in a negotiation at that point,'' Sharpton said. "But I did not know if it had turned hostile or not''.

But it had, coming to a head with Jackson's public appearances Saturday, including one at a Sharpton-sponsored rally, at which Jackson called Mottola (who is also Mariah Carey's ex-husband) a racist. Later in the day, he held up a poster depicting Mottola as the devil. Sharpton distanced himself from those comments, saying he had never known Mottola to say or do anything racist in the 15 or 20 years he has known the exec. Other African American music executives and producers rushed to Mottola's defense.

At Sharpton's Music Industry Summit yesterday, Jackson continued to call the industry racist, though he no longer singled out Mottola by name. He blamed industry racism for turning the public against him. ''Once I started breaking sales records,'' he began, ''I broke Elvis Presley's record, I broke the Beatles' record -- once I started doing that, overnight, they called me a freak, a homosexual, a child molester.'' (Actually, it was about 10 years between Jackson breaking sales records with 1982's ''Thriller'' and the child molestation allegations, which Jackson settled out of court with a multimillion-dollar payment to his accuser's family. He was never charged with a criminal offense.) ''They said I bleached my skin. They did everything they could to turn the public against me. It's a conspiracy.'' He added, ''I know my race. I look in the mirror, and I know that I'm black.''

Sharpton called Jackson's comments ''eloquent'' and also tried to expand Jackson's complaint into a systemic critique. ''We are today calling for a meeting with every head of every record company... to begin to discuss artists' contracts and their business dealings in the African-American community,'' he said.

Still, it was hard to see the complaints as pertaining to any artist besides Jackson, since only one other musician seems to have joined Sharpton and Cochran's crusade: '80s rapper Doug E. Fresh. Explained Fresh, ''There's a lot of artists who are afraid to stand up.''
So 7 years after 7 July 2002 is 7 July 2009 which is when MJ is supposed to get his masters back. Now I proved that online. Of course I cant prove that it was the Sony contract that MJ signed on July 7 2002 and NOT his Will but that is for the Jacksons & courts to decide.
 
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Here is an article from July 10 2002 (notice the date?....a few days after 7 July 2002):
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,319537,00.html

So 7 years after 7 July 2002 is 7 July 2009 which is when MJ is supposed to get his masters back. Now I proved that online. Of course I cant prove that it was the Sony contract that MJ signed on July 7 2002 and NOT his Will but that is for the Jacksons & courts to decide.

You know what? This sounds totally plausible, especially when you think that signing something like a contract involves a lot of copies, lots of pages... A couple of pages could have been slipped in between and Mike wouldn't have known if he wasn't paying too much attention...
 
Well Michael has signed documents before while being impaired. There are a number of ways they could have got MJs signature on the Will from using the signature from the contract and falsely put it on a Will or MJ could have signed it thinking he was signing something else. Its not the first time he's done that:
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^ It says "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by F. Marc Schaffel Productions LLC."

DI, you're doing amazing work here. Thank you.

I feel ill.
 
Yeah, I remember that deposition.

As a side-note, Mike looks totally hot in the video. :p
 
How reliable a source is Gordon Novel? I've never heard of him.

"According to Novel, Jackson said he was lured to Malnik's house in Miami Beach by film director Brett Ratner to see a house so beautiful it would make him catatonic," Orth wrote. "He said that once he was there, however, Malnik, who Jackson claimed had Mafia ties, wanted to put his fingers in the singer's business. Jackson also said he received a call from Tommy Mottola while he was there, which aroused his suspicion..."

If true, then Brett Rattner might have been in on it too? Urgh.

That Mottola interview from July 7 gave me the creeps when I first saw it.
 
I would expect this thread to get more attention as well.
What we are currently witnessing is the aftermath of the trial and all evil forces that were behind the allegations and joined to bring Michael down.
They failed in a court of law back in 2005 so they killed him in 2009.
It's all about the catalogs IMHO and according to my personal investigation.
Mottola and his successors-Malnik-Anschutz-Barrack, AKA
Sony,AEG,Colony Capital ~
The chain of death around Michael. Checkmate.
 
I completely understand as I am the same way which is why I try to post as many sources as I can however this info was discussed and there is no info online as the info that has been acquired by the Jackson family might being used in court.

Whether you believe it or not now thats up to everyone as individuals. Im by no means saying its the gospel. But it is consistent with the info we have seen physically and with the big picture of Sony's efforts in conspiring against MJ. The truth will come out in court of the next few years.

BTW you remember when MJ told Mottola before Invincible came out that MJ was leaving the label? It all started there. MJ knew Invincible was going to the last album for Sony and it was. Everything else that was released wasnt anything knew but helped MJ fulfill his contract with Sony so he could get out.

Just something I quickly found from wiki:
Branca screwed MJ so he couldnt take his masters and leave until closer to the renewal date for the Sony/ATV catalogue in Sept 2010. By then Sony were expecting MJ to be broke (they tried to assist re article in this thread) and thought that MJ would default so they could just claim the Sony/ATV catalogue. It didnt work out that way as MJ always found a way out. That was until June 25.

Remember Mottola being on TV shortly after MJ died reminding everyone that Sony has hundreds of unreleased MJ tracks that they can release (make money off of)?
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BTW look at the date that Mottola is on TV, July 7 2009, the dayof MJ's memorial and the day he was supposed to get his masters back. It's as if he is appearing on TV to say without saying, "We got the job done." What a snake!
:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
 
Is we suggesting that Sony murdered Michael with the intention of stopping him from getting his masters, but instead of taking him out directly they knew that he had a former drug problem and hired Conrad to administer drugs to him so that they could rid of Michael?

Don't ask, one of my many theories.
 
Is we suggesting that Sony murdered Michael with the intention of stopping him from getting his masters, but instead of taking him out directly they knew that he had a former drug problem and hired Conrad to administer drugs to him so that they could rid of Michael?

Well, these are not mere suggestions really.
It' a bunch of articles/videos that, put together, offer a clearer view of the big picture.

It's called distinguishing the forest from the trees. :cheeky:
 
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Well, these are not mere suggestions really.
It' a bunch of articles/videos that, put together, offer a clearer view of the big picture.

It's called distinguishing the forest from the trees. :cheeky:


Thats right! And it becomes so obvious! I really hope "someone" is digging up the proof as there is enough circumstantial evidence if you look for it! Once you see it all tying in together it becomes impossible to not see it anymore!
I only hope the Jackson's have themselves a really good PI!
 
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