Michael Jackson was terrified of Dr. Tohme Tohme

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This is old and has probably been posted but here it is anyway..

Michael Jackson: King of Pop was terrified of his manager
By Tiffany Warner
Examiner/August 27, 2009
Recent taped conversations of the late King of Pop, suggest Michael Jackson was afraid of his manager Dr. Tohme Tohme.
Jackson’s former spiritual advisor June Gatlin reportedly taped conversations with the “Thriller” hitmaker, which he agreed upon, discussing his fear of Tohme Tohme.
“He was afraid of who this man is, afraid of whatever this man may be capable of doing… He had taken over Michael’s complete life,” Gatlin recently told press.
Taped in September 2008, the recordings are now in the possession of NBC News thanks to Gatlin. On the tapes, Jackson can be heard saying, “This guy, he just… has ways about him… There’s a divide between me and my representatives and I don’t talk to my lawyer, my accountant. I talk to him and he talks to them.” He adds, “I don’t like it. I wanna get somebody in there with him that I know and can trust. I don’t know what’s in my accounts.”
Gatlin told NBC, “Michael said, ‘He’s mean, he’s trying to keep me and separate me from everybody and everything that I love.”
Although Michael did severe ties with Tohme Tohme in May (09), after learning he had threatened a California auction house over memorabilia items, Tohme Tohme spoke on behalf of the pop icon hours after he died on June 25, 2009.
In fact, Jackson even reportedly sent a letter to all of his business associates, in which he stated, “Dr. Tohme Tohme is no longer authorized to represent me.” However, Dr. Tohme Tohme told NBC, “I’m still in charge of Michael Jackson’s business until otherwise I am informed not to do so.”


http://www.examiner.com/x-964-LA-Ce...Jackson-King-of-Pop-was-afraid-of-his-manager
 
Also.. not sure what this is but I found it and thought id post it -

Michael Jackson, Dr. Tohme Tohme, Frank DiLeo, Colony Capital & Anschutz

14th July 2009
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Video: “LaToya Jackson Indicates Michael was Murdered, Pt1,” Larry King interview.
What LaToya Jackson said (People magazine): “The grieving sister of superstar Michael Jackson last night blamed ‘a shadowy entourage’ of manipulative hangers-on for effectively ‘murdering’ the King of Pop. ,.. She believes her brother was fed addictive drugs by handlers who wanted to control his moods. She says they regarded him as a ‘cash cow’ and exploited him at every turn. It was this, she believes, that led directly to his death. … After returning from the hospital with the children and her mother to Katherine’s home, they received a troubling call from the Jackson mansion. It was Michael’s long-term assistant Michael Amin, a devout Muslim known as Brother Michael. He told La Toya that her brother’s Lebanese-born, self-appointed business manager Dr Tohme Tohme had fired all the staff at the Beverly Hills property and at a second rented home in Las Vegas. ‘I want to know how Michael died, and then, at 11pm on the day he dies, all the staff are fired?’ she asks rhetorically. ‘That raised my suspicions.’ … While Michael regularly kept up to £1million in cash inside his home, La Toya says none was found. Nor was any of his vast collection of jewellery …
“Someone went in there and did a good job.”
“Murder,” She Wrote (re the People Magazine LaToya J. Interview)
” … LaToya, 53, a onetime Playboy model who was estranged from the rest of the Jackson family for a time in the early 1990s after she claimed her brother acted inappropriately with children, did not give any proof to back up her murder claim. She told the Mail that the family has received the results of a private autopsy it ordered, but she declined to reveal the findings of those tests. …
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1616199/20090714/jackson_michael.jhtml
“Reporter Graham said the choice of words from LaToya ’stopped me dead in my tracks,’ prompting her to ask, ‘Are you sure the word “murder” is what you want to use?’ Jackson responded that she purposely chose that word. “He was surrounded by a bad circle,” LaToya said in the interview. “Michael was a very meek, quiet, loving person. People took advantage of that. People fought to be close to him, people who weren’t always on his side … ”
From: This is London, http://www.thisislondon.co.uk, on Tohme and manager Frank DiLeo (ties to Gambino Mafia Family), “Mystery over doctor who tried to save dying Jackson,” 26.06.09:
” … the man who allegedly tried and failed to resuscitate Michael Jackson following his heart attack – Dr Tohme Tohme has been described as Jackson’s personal physician, close friend, manager and official spokesman. Today he stood silently by the side of Jermaine Jackson as he announced to the world that his brother had died. According to Jermaine, Dr Tohme was with Jackson when he collapsed at his rented home in Los Angeles yesterday and then tried to resuscitate the pop star. Asked for his reaction at the press conference, Dr Tohme simply replied that Jermaine would be the only representative for the family. According to close associates, Jackson and Dr Tohme had fallen out since coming to London in March to announce his comeback tour. Sources say they were no longer on speaking terms. Jackson is said to have formally notified associates last month that Dr Tohme, who paved the way for the deal for the This Is It tour, was not representing him after he received a cease-and-desist letter for the O2 residency from AllGood Entertainment, the company that had represented the Jackson 5. … The row had led to Jackson re-connecting with Frank DiLeo, who managed the singer in his Eighties heyday. … “
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...or+who+tried+to+save+dying+Jackson/article.do
From: DasGOAT
A “self-made financier with a murky past” who was “a close personal friend of Tom Barrack, CEO of Colony Capital” and who also personally negotiated the concert deal with [Anschutz's] AEG Live, Tohme “had stiff competition from others who wanted to take over Jackson’s finances.”
http://www.nypost.com/seven/0626200...hme__i_wasnt_there_when_*****_died_176274.htm
Dr. Tohme
Earlier today, the Los Angeles police department said detectives had briefly spoken to Jackson’s “personal physician” – whom they would not identify — shortly after Jackson’s death, but wanted to speak to him again.
At first, reports identified the doctor at Jackson’s side as Dr. Tohme Tohme. But he told The Post he wasn’t the doctor at the scene. [Contrast this with Jermaine Jackson/Dr. Tohme statements in the This is London excerpt above - they are irreconcilable - AC.]
Jackson’s mysterious adviser Tohme opens up: ‘I built a fence around Michael to keep people out,’ says Dr. Tohme Tohme, an advisor to Michael Jackson, stands in front of a painting of Jackson titled “The Book,” by artist Brett-Livingstone Strong, in the law office of Dennis Hawk in Santa Monica, Calif., on Friday, July 3.
David Zentz / AP
updated 4:07 p.m. PT, Sat., July 4, 2009
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31740617/ns/entertainment-music/
LOS ANGELES – Dr. Tohme Tohme vividly remembers the first time he met with Michael Jackson to discuss the pop star’s finances. It’s not the money talk that stays with him now, but his enchantment at entering Jackson’s world of love.
“I saw how kind he was and what a wonderful human being,” Tohme said in an interview. “I saw him with his children and I had never seen a better father. … I decided to do what I could to help him.”
Tohme, a financier with a murky past, had been contacted by Jackson’s brother, Jermaine, who asked if Tohme could help to save Jackson’s beloved Neverland ranch from foreclosure. Tohme said he traveled with Jermaine to Las Vegas, where Jackson was living after years of wandering the world following his acquittal on child molestation charges.
They bonded instantly. “For the last year and a half I was the closest person to Michael Jackson,” Tohme said. He contacted Tom Barrack, the chairman of Colony Capital and a close personal friend. “He was hesitant to get involved, but I said, ‘Let’s go see Michael,’” Tohme recalled.
After the meeting he said Barrack, who was impressed with Jackson’s “intelligence and focus,” bought the note for Neverland. But that was just the beginning of a business relationship that culminated in the London concerts that were to have begun next week.
Wearing a suit with no tie, Tohme, Jackson’s last business manager and spokesperson, granted his first interview Friday to The Associated Press in the office of a lawyer friend.
‘I’m a private man’
Tohmen, listed in public records as being in his late 50s, has been portrayed as something of a mystery man in the Jackson brain trust.
“I hate the words ‘mystery man,’” he said. “I’m a private man. A lot of people like the media and I don’t. I respect the privacy of other people but lately nobody respects mine.”
As he spoke, his cell phone rang constantly. He took only a few calls, one of them from Jesse Jackson.
He has been stung by allegations that he was involved with the Nation of Islam, which he said was untrue.
“I have nothing against anybody,” he said, “But I don’t know anyone from the Nation of Islam. When I took over Michael Jackson’s affairs, I fired some people from the Nation of Islam.”
It is known that he is of Lebanese descent. His double name — pronounced toh-MAY’ — is not uncommon in the Middle East. But he declined to go into detail about his own life and career other than to say he is a U.S. citizen who was raised in Los Angeles and, “I’m a self-made man. I’m in the world of finance.”
“I don’t want to talk about me,” he said. “I’m a nobody. I’m not important. I want to talk about Michael Jackson.”
At times he appeared on the verge of tears as he discussed Jackson’s death, saying, “It’s unbelievable … I’m devastated … God bless his soul.”
He said that by talking about Jackson, he was fulfilling one of the star’s wishes.
“He always said to me, ‘I want people to really know who I am after I’m gone.’”
‘I’m a stranger to this business’
He would only briefly discuss Jackson’s finances. During his time with the superstar, Tohme said, he was paid nothing but was able to negotiate lucrative business deals that would secure the future of Jackson’s children. He followed a long line of business managers and spokespeople who had come and gone from Jackson over the years. In the final year, he said he played a pivotal role in turning things around.
His negotiations for Jackson included a Broadway show with the Nederlander organization, an animated TV show based on “Thriller,” a line of clothing including “moonwalk shoes,” and more. He said he was working with others to renegotiate the terms of Jackson’s main assets, his share of the Sony-ATV Music Publishing Catalog — which includes music by the Beatles — and the catalog of Mijac, the company that controls Michael Jackson’s own music.
“I am not in the music business. I’m a stranger to this business,” Tohme said, noting that he had stiff competition from others who wanted to take over Jackson’s finances.
“I built a fence around Michael to keep people out,” he said, acknowledging that he cut costs by firing many members of the Jackson staff, including security guards. And he twice fired the children’s nanny, Grace Rawaramba, on Jackson’s orders.
“I was trying to do what we could to maximize his profits and minimize spending. I wanted to find a way to reel in all the loans he had.
“We had an agreement,” Tohme continued. “I would never interfere with his creative decisions and he wouldn’t interfere with my business decisions.”
Tohme said he abandoned everything he was doing in his own life to concentrate his time and effort on Jackson’s affairs. He points with pride to the crown jewel of his and the new Jackson team’s efforts: the contract with AEG for concerts at the 02 arena in London.
He said Jackson was looking forward to the concerts because he wanted his children to see him perform.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509076,00.html
[In an apparent conflict of interest,] Tohme Tohme [has] business relationships with both Michael Jackson (as manager and President of MJJ Productions) and with Colony Capital (a client of Mr. Tohme’s TRW Advertising) …
The website for Tohme’s TRW Advertising (Tohme, Rogich, & Weller) (www.trw-adv.com) is not accessible to the public (it’s client-only and password-protected).
 
Where did he go? What happened with his apperance on LKL? He had dental issues as I remember and had to re-schedule.. but he never showed up? Where is he now?

He is shady as heck!!
 
Where did he go? What happened with his apperance on LKL? He had dental issues as I remember and had to re-schedule.. but he never showed up? Where is he now?

He is shady as heck!!

I think I read that it was re-scheduled for just a couple of weeks after he had "dental problems" but we never heard anything more about it.
 
Tohme is dark and still disappeared. How can it? I'm sure he has many things to tell and explain. He must be far away.

that's true! Dr Thome even appeared to defend himself against the things that have been saying about him, since jun 25 XOXO
Where is he? and why the silent?
 
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I just checked it and it works fine.:scratch:

Thank you it works now...hmm..very odd.
Now about the video..I have seen it before...it is VERY obvious that Michael was afraid of Thome...this is Michael's OWN words we are hearing..it is not second hand information....I DO believe Michael....as I have said before..Thome is the Devil himself..I dont like the way he looks at Michael..it is almost as though he is looking into his very soul....Thome is not to be trusted.....What I want to know is WHY the disappearing act since June 25th.....IMHO...He too is part of what happend to Michael...He should be found and punished like like Murray..Thome just creeps me out.
 
Why do some people ignore things like this when they come straight from Michael's mouth?!
 
I don't. It was obvious Michael was terrified. He finally got rid of Thome because he had enough. He did not know where his money was going or how much he had. the 5 million dollars does that ring a bell? Someone said in the other threads MJ probably told Thome to hold that money. I think not because Mike SAID he did not trust Thome. Unbelievable how people want to disprove Mikes on words. It angers me totally.
 
There's actual audio evidence that Michael was afraid of Dr. Tohme and previous files prove that he has a very shady past. And, though I'm not sure how much truth there is in this, there have been death threats which I'm assuming he would have sent on Michael's behalf? Yet Murray is still going on trial for involuntary manslaughter? It makes you wonder how much investigating actually went on...
 
I don't. It was obvious Michael was terrified. He finally got rid of Thome because he had enough. He did not know where his money was going or how much he had. the 5 million dollars does that ring a bell? Someone said in the other threads MJ probably told Thome to hold that money. I think not because Mike SAID he did not trust Thome. Unbelievable how people want to disprove Mikes on words. It angers me totally.

Its like some people make the family out to be devils incarnate but completely ingnore things like this... :no: and that other thing i posted in 'is this something to worry about?'. In the main forum they called that bullshit - even though that was from MICHAEL'S OWN MOUTH... these are things people should be worried about, yet all they seem to go on about is Joe.
 
The family and their issues is secondary to me now. Everyone by now knows my feelings. I want to know what happened to Michael. This waiting is eating me up but I have to be patient. Maybe, we need to go back and really listen to some of the things Mike state about being afraid on several occasions to refresh our memory and help with our investigation.
 
that's true! Dr Thome even appeared to defend himself against the things that have been saying about him, since jun 25 XOXO
Where is he? and why the silent?

he got what he wanted that's why he silent and he playing his cards right. Him or none of them people shouldn't of been around michael they mean him no good.
 
I find it strange, maybe it has been mentioned already, that this tape is from September 2008 and he fired him when in May 2009, according to Frank Dileo, right?!
So why did he wait so long - why not firing him immediately....
 
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Something happened he didn't like and he fired him. Maybe he decided to give him another chance or they could have been in the middle of a big deal. or HE WAS AFRAID TO FIRE HIM.
 
It was after the Juliens's Auction debacle that caused Michael to fire Tohme.
 
Yep that could be, that he was terrified to fire him earlier. But still I think I have seen some pics with Mike & Tohme dated in April - but I'm not sure. humm

oh the Julein's Auction story !!
 
nothing I got the wrong date
 
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The family and their issues is secondary to me now. Everyone by now knows my feelings. I want to know what happened to Michael. This waiting is eating me up but I have to be patient. Maybe, we need to go back and really listen to some of the things Mike state about being afraid on several occasions to refresh our memory and help with our investigation.

Yes and Michael mentions conspiracy and that he thought people were trying to poison him, but some people ignore this too.
 
I wonder if Tohme was at Michael's house the night he was murdered. Did they investigate to see where Tohme was that night. Did they check his phone to see who he called. They said Murray was called by a person on an untraceable phone. Wonder what happened to that story and who it was. I'm sure he could get into the house if he wanted to because it sounds like the security was pretty lax around there. They tried to make Michael look like he was out there but in reality he was extremly intelligent and knew what was going on. He told people he would be killed and no one listened.
 
I find it strange, maybe it has been mentioned already, that this tape is from September 2008 and he fired him when in May 2009, according to Frank Dileo, right?!
So why did he wait so long - why not firing him immediately....


I find that strange too. Tapes can be altered. June Gatlin came forward saying stuff, but in the coverage it got lost. Dileo brought forward Gatlin & the Thome tape. I am sure Dileo provided them with the copies of the lawsuits. The news media is so lazy - they do no real investigating anymore - their sources are TMZ. Joe brought up Thome first on LKL.

I can't say I trust Thome but I trust Dileo far less. Dileo is the one who provided stories to the tabs about the Elephant Man bones & the pic to the National Enquirer of MJ in the hyperbaric chamber. Who knows what rumors & stories Dileo spread in the media after he was fired? He was very angry.
 
I find it strange, maybe it has been mentioned already, that this tape is from September 2008 and he fired him when in May 2009, according to Frank Dileo, right?!
So why did he wait so long - why not firing him immediately....

Maybe Tohme was under contract?

What I don't get is, Michael told his spiritual advisor this so I'm guessing he told one or several of his family members too? And they all apparently knew something was up because they wouldn't be allowed near him and I imagine that Jermaine tried to keep in touch with him. So, why was he there when Jermaine made the announcement?

Are he and Thome friends? Are they just acquaintance's? Do they work together?
 
Tohme was fired by Mike and replaced by Dileo in May.
That's why everybody is wondering what he was doing at the house on the day Mike passed.
Not only he was there,he also fired all the staff.
Under what capacity??
 
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