Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

[Sdeidjs]

With regards to the subject matter LMP;

"During THAT place and time in "HIStory"~~~



;D

As Always

:angel:

 

[Ashtanga]

LaToya said that? Which interview was that in? I usually make a point of listening to her interviews for I really enjoy her personallity. I don't remember this. Help me out here, MP!
You know, I don't remember where exactly I read it. I didn't see it on video, but it may be on there. If I find it, I will post it.


~ To give an example of perhaps what this concept is referring, the trailer of the film Ape was so blessed to be apart of recently has something like this going on in it. The main character is a teacher, which in itself is an admirable profession, however, this man seems to have a nagging feeling his life is to mean much more. To add to this he "sees"... a what? A vision? An apparition? of a young girl who seems to be calling out to him to come to her country and help her people.

I know a person in my own life who has shared something similar with me. She had a vision like this where an Native American appeared, standing in the same room she was sitting in and praying in. She asked him, "Who are you?" He was dressed like an Indian chief and he told her to help 'his people" and he told her his tribe. Then he was gone. She inquired of the Lord and He said (meaning she was given an impression), "I want you to intercede for these people." Within days she was somewhere and started a conversatiion with a man who was very americanized, dressed like we all do, but he told her he was from Native American descent. She asked him which tribe, and it was the same as the man in her vision. This young man explained to her the great need of his people at their reservation, they were in trouble, and asked her if she could get them help. And so it began, and God had shown her "ahead of time."

Was God's messenger to her a ghost? No. The Lord is very creative in the way He chooses to speak to His Children. And He distributes His gifts as He pleases, and this ability to see "in the spirit" in such a way, is but one of them.

So are you thinking, MP, that maybe Michael had this particular gifting from God?

These are amazing examples there, queen g. You're talking about the Discernment of Spirits, right? I thought that was limited to supernatural spirits, but from your examples it seems as though it could also pertain to human spirits as well?

That's interesting. MJ could have very well been given this gift and perhaps he was seeing his LITD in spirit.

I remember seeing this program where this young married couple had lived in an apartment, and they felt they had outgrown it, and decided to look for a house to live in. They began looking for homes every weekend.

Well, in the meantime, the young woman had begun having dreams of one particular house. The house was large and magnificent, so beautifully decorated by the owner. Looked like a picture right out of a magazine. She had this dream night after night. Well, the weekend rolled around again and they were off to look at more houses.

Well, on the way to look at one house, the woman screamed to her husband to stop the car. Then she pointed to the house he had stopped by and said that that was the house she kept seeing in her dream. Then she ran out of the car and ran toward the house and even opened the front door. Her husband told her she can't just go into people's homes like that, but she went in anyway, and to her surprise, the inside of the house also looked exactly like it did in her dream. It was beautiful.

Just then, a very nicely dressed woman came out of one of the rooms and said, "You must be here for the open house." The young woman and her husband looked at the whole house with the realtor and put an offer in.

When the realtor momentarily left the room, the husband told his wife not to get her hopes up because the offer was too low for such an extravagant house. Just then, the realtor came out to tell them that their offer had been accepted by the owner. The husband then asked what the catch was and the realtor said, "No, no, there's nothing wrong with the house it's just that the owner said that it's haunted and I should accept the first offer I get." The young wife said she didn't care what it was, they were taking it.

Well, just then an elderly woman came out of one of the rooms and entered the room the three of them were in. She happened to be the owner of the house. The elderly woman took one look at the young wife who had just made the offer and said, "It's you! You're the one who has been haunting my house!"

I remembered this thread:


Jermaine Jackson to be on 'Celebrity Ghost Stories'

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95348&page=4


:fear:

 

[Lainy]

Someone has spoken in ghosts here?

boo!

 

[Lisha]

Someone spoken in ghosts here?

boo!

Aaaaaaaaaaaah! *jumps up so high in fright she hits her head on the ceiling* How could you do that to me, Lainy? :lol:

That's interesting. MJ could have very well been given this gift and perhaps he was seeing his LITD in spirit

I have wondered...did God in some way show Michael "ahead of time" in some supernatural way the LITD girl and that she was someone to have great significance to him in his life?

Could he have been shown her in a vision or in a dream? I think I have shared the story in here of the gentleman in a church I had attended that was shown a picture of the woman he was to marry in a vision repeatedly over a time until the day came he walked right past her in person and went "woah!"

I think I came across another example of this not that long ago when was looking up some information about June Gatlin...you know, the self-proclaimed "spiritual advisor" to Michael Jackson. I'm not sure what my take on her is...but she does seem to have this gifting to "see" in the spiritual realm. I believe her story is that God showed her in advance a picture of the man she was to marry and then she saw him at a party (I hope I have the order of things correct...it's been over year since i looked her up)...anyway, something else occured when she first saw him, and this I had always wondered could be something that went on with MJ and his LITD girl (I had heard of other accounts of this even before I learned it happened to June Gatlin). And that is, when she saw her future husband in the crowd at the party, she saw a "glow" or a supernatural light all around him...as if the Lord was "high-lighting" him to her.

Could the Lord have done this with Michael? Years ago (if we follow that one theory that's been talked about in here a lot, that "she's" been around for years) he saw his LITD girl somewhere in person and God caused him to see this supernatural glow all around her to get MJ's attention?

The reason I was thinking this has to do with the way he refers to her in his lyrics all through out his career. He sometimes, a lot of times, seems so sure she's the one.

One song that stands out to me is the song, She Drives Me Wild. It's the way he sings,

That girl's my baby...Uh-huh

Sounds like a very confident proclamation to me!

But we know from the very onset of the song, she isn't even his baby yet!

She's got the look
She so fine
And you know d*** well
The girl will be mine

"Will be mine" means it hasn't happened yet.

And we've talked about this before that in many of his songs he mixes it up within the same song with lyrics that imply she's been his baby all along (past tense), with she just became his baby and he's stoked (present) and she will see how great it will be when she is his baby (future).

We've brought up YRMW as an example of this a few times. Lyrics used in that song include "You rock my world" (present) "You rocked my world (past) and "There is love you'll need to find/The one that you call mine" (future, you will need, hasn't happened yet).

But even that kind of talk "There is a love you'll need to find" is so very confident sounding. He lets that girl know that he knows she's it! Just like in the Eve rap in Butterflies, "But you know you perfect for her you got all of what them fools lack" or Invincible, "I know I could claim your heart and our perfect love will start" and "When I know that I could be more than you could ever dream." This is a man who is SURE he's the one for her and she's the one for him. What can give a man that kind of confidence?

God being the one to show the man the woman he has for him in some supernatural way...that could do it. That could build a confidence or faith that would have "staying" power. Staying power, that is, as long as the person reminds himself to always look "back" to the occurance to help "keep the faith."

What did God tell the Israelites to always share with their children...He told them to speak to them about the miracles He had done for them...to remember how He split the red sea so the Isralites could get across before their Egyptian pursuers could get to them, and how he caused water to flow from the rock when they were thirsty in the desert, and gave them Manna to eat every morning, and many other amazing things, many supernatural things.

Did God use a supernatural means to "point out the one" for MJ, so MJ would always have that memory to hold on to and be able to "keep the faith"?

A man like MJ probably could have used some help to know "which girl" when you think about it. He had a sea of girls to pick from...how over-whelming to know which one. Any of us when chosing a mate probably don't have all that many that come our way to be contenders...but for him?!! I can see him needing a little special help from God. Can't you?

What went wrong in the Nineties, then, that caused him to take his eyes off, sort of speak, that memory of when he first met/saw "her" and how "special" it was? Something obviously caused him to lose faith in him and "her"...and he forgot to look back and remember. So he went on to other women, and he got married. True. But as we know, from the lyrics we have discussed here, that came out of songs post his marriage... he came to realize he could not forget her...she was remaining still in his heart and his mind (YANA, WYBT, etc).


If God causes someone right before your eyes to "glow"... you will never forget that. Because God's hand would be on it. How could anyone "forget to remember" something like that (a little fun oxymoron there...)

 

[8701girl]

Someone spoken in ghosts here?

boo!

:bugeyed That is one freaky ghost! :lol:

 

[Sdeidjs]

As Always

:angel:

 

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Well, I was about to quote the magnificent post of queen g, but have been commanded not to! lol! So ... I will just patiently wait until she has time to do some "editing." (Actually, I know how it is. I get that way sometimes. I can edit a post quite a few times just to fix spelling errors and whatnot.)

 

[Lisha]

Well, I was about to quote the magnificent post of queen g, but have been commanded not to! lol! So ... I will just patiently wait until she has time to do some "editing." (Actually, I know how it is. I get that way sometimes. I can edit a post quite a few times just to fix spelling errors and whatnot.)

Oookay, MP. I took the time finally to read over the long thing. And it needed some fixin' up, that's for sure. Comment away on it if you have some thoughts to share.

 

[MysteriousPhoenix]

... I have wondered...did God in some way show Michael "ahead of time" in some supernatural way the LITD girl and that she was someone to have great significance to him in his life?

... Could the Lord have done this with Michael? Years ago (if we follow that one theory that's been talked about in here a lot, that "she's" been around for years) he saw his LITD girl somewhere in person and God caused him to see this supernatural glow all around her to get MJ's attention? This reminds me of the part in "Speechless" where he sings:

"When I'm with you I'm in the LIGHT, but I cannot be found.
It's as though I am standing in the place called Hallowed Ground..."

So, here we have two terms, "light" and "hallowed ground" that refer to God being involved as you say.

The reason I was thinking this has to do with the way he refers to her in his lyrics all through out his career. He sometimes, a lot of times, seems so sure she's the one.

One song that stands out to me is the song, She Drives Me Wild. It's the way he sings,

That girl's my baby...Uh-huh

Sounds like a very confident proclamation to me!

But we know from the very onset of the song, she isn't even his baby yet!

She's got the look
She so fine
And you know d*** well
The girl will be mine

"Will be mine" means it hasn't happened yet.

And we've talked about this before that in many of his songs he mixes it up within the same song with lyrics that imply she's been his baby all along (past tense), with she just became his baby and he's stoked (present) and she will see how great it will be when she is his baby (future).

We've brought up YRMW as an example of this a few times. Lyrics used in that song include "You rock my world" (present) "You rocked my world (past) and "There is love you'll need to find/The one that you call mine" (future, you will need, hasn't happened yet). I think another perfect example of this is the song, "The Way That You Love Me." The lyrics are:


The Way You Love Me Lyrics

Verse 1:

I was alone in the dark when I met ya

Uuuuuuuuuuh uuuuuuh

You took my hand and you told me you loved me

Uuuuuuuuuuh uuuuuuh



I was alone, there was no love in my life

(I was alone, there was no love in my life)

I was afraid of life and you came in time

(I was afraid of life and you came in time)

You took my hand and we kissed in the moonlight

(You took my hand and we kissed in the moonlight)

Uuuuuuuuuuh uuuuuuh



Chorus:

I like the way how you`re holdin` me

It doesn`t matter how you are holdin` me

I like the way how you`re lovin` me

It doesn`t matter how you are lovin` me

I like the way how you`re touchin` me

It doesn`t matter how you are touchin` me

I like the way how you`re kissin` me

It doesn`t matter how you are kissin` me

You'll seeeee...



Verse 2:

...it won't be long 'til we make vows, I bet ya

Uuuuuuuuuuh uuuuuuh

I thank the Heavens above that I met ya

Uuuuuuuuuuh uuuuuuh



I was alone, there was no love in my life

(I was alone, there was no love in my life)

I was afraid of life and you came in time

(I was afraid of life and you came in time)

You took my hand and we kissed in the moonlight

(You took my hand and we kissed in the moonlight)

Uuuuuuuuuuh



Chorus (diff):

I like the way how you`re lovin` me

It doesn`t matter how you are holdin` me

I like the way how you`re holdin` me

It doesn`t matter how you re lovin` me

I like the way how you`re touchin` me

It doesn`t matter how you are touchin` me

I like the way how you`re kissin` me

It doesn`t matter how you are kissin` me



Verse 3:

The world's a better place `cause you came in time,

You took away the rain and brought the sunshine,

I was afraid `cause I was hurt the last time,

Uuuuuuuuuuh Ahhhhhhhh.



Chorus:

I like the way how you`re holdin` me,

It doesn`t matter how you are holdin` me,

I like the way how you`re lovin` me,

It doesn`t matter how you are lovin` me,

I like the way how you`re touchin` me,

It doesn`t matter how you are touchin` me,

I like the way how you`re kissin` me,

It doesn`t matter how you are kissin` me,

You'll seeeee.

Uuuuuuuuuuh uuuuuuh (x12)



Chcksthtshtshtsh

Lalalalala lalalalala lalalalalalala

So here we have him talking in present tense ("I like the way how you're ..."). And then he says, "You'll see" which implies it hasn't really happened yet (future).

But even that kind of talk "There is a love you'll need to find" is so very confident sounding. He lets that girl know that he knows she's it! Just like in the Eve rap in Butterflies, "But you know you perfect for her you got all of what them fools lack" or Invincible, "I know I could claim your heart and our perfect love will start" and "When I know that I could be more than you could ever dream." This is a man who is SURE he's the one for her and she's the one for him. What can give a man that kind of confidence?

God being the one to show the man the woman he has for him in some supernatural way...that could do it. That could build a confidence or faith that would have "staying" power. Staying power, that is, as long as the person reminds himself to always look "back" to the occurance to help "keep the faith."

What did God tell the Israelites to always share with their children...He told them to speak to them about the miracles He had done for them...to remember how He split the red sea so the Isralites could get across before their Egyptian pursuers could get to them, and how he caused water to flow from the rock when they were thirsty in the desert, and gave them Manna to eat every morning, and many other amazing things, many supernatural things.

Did God use a supernatural means to "point out the one" for MJ, so MJ would always have that memory to hold on to and be able to "keep the faith"?

A man like MJ probably could have used some help to know "which girl" when you think about it. He had a sea of girls to pick from...how over-whelming to know which one. Any of us when chosing a mate probably don't have all that many that come our way to be contenders...but for him?!! I can see him needing a little special help from God. Can't you? This is a most excellent point! TOO ... MANY ... CHOICES! And I am sure he had run across many, many women who had really nice qualities, but how do you choose just one? How confusing. Maybe that's why he said he was looking for a love "so divine." I might add, if she wasn't famous, that may have been another reason for him to be given a "vision." There would have been no other way to "see" her.

What went wrong in the Nineties, then, that caused him to take his eyes off, sort of speak, that memory of when he first met/saw "her" and how "special" it was? Something obviously caused him to lose faith in him and "her"...and he forgot to look back and remember. This is a good question. The pressures of the times maybe?


So he went on to other women, and he got married. True. But as we know, from the lyrics we have discussed here, that came out of songs post his marriage... he came to realize he could not forget her...she was remaining still in his heart and his mind (YANA, WYBT, etc).


If God causes someone right before your eyes to "glow"... you will never forget that. Because God's hand would be on it. How could anyone "forget to remember" something like that (a little fun oxymoron there...)

Yep, even MJ was glowing for a moment there. (Remember the pic posted by AllForMJ?)

 

[Lisha]

Yep, even MJ was glowing for a moment there. (Remember the pic posted by AllForMJ?)

That's true, he had an unmistakable glow about him then. We all commented about it. It was wonderful to witness. But that, it was identified by us all as "the glow of being in love." A little different then from what we're talking about now. This would be a very divine light placed all around the individual without that person even knowing it...only to be seen by the eyes that are supposed to behold it. Where the temptation might be for the individual who is beholding to nudge someone beside them and say, "Hey, do you see that girl...I mean, is she "glowing" to you...like a light all around her?" And that someone who was nudged would respond with a "Huh?" with a lost look on their face. Haha. Like that.

Both the songs you brought up are good examples, MP...Speechless and The Way You Love Me. Thanks for posting the lyrics of the latter.



Here are some lyrics I came across today from an old Frankie Valli song...

Headed for city lights,
Climbed the ladder up to fortune and fame,
I worked my fingers to the bone,
Made myself a name.
Funny, I seem to find that, no matter how the years unwind,
Still I reminisce about the girl I miss
And the love I left behind...

Was that MJ's reality for years?

 

[Ashtanga]

Observing..... >>>>> :shifty:

 

[Sdeidjs]

unk: :wub: :dancin:

The Journal Of Reflection Of Thoughts "TRUTH OF JUSTICE NOTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE" (c) 1995 through June 25, 2009

Psalm 37~~~


L.O.V.E Always & Forever

:angel:

Since this thread will not allow me to add on to my previous post...Those "who" follow on MJJC & Facebook\Susie Deeds; always been a part of our world, that "know" what & who WE have always been ALL about....

To "think" I had tickets for the Led Zeppelin United States Tour when John Bonhom passed...!

Wow...Impressive..!

Enjoy~~~






Jimmy Page And Robert Plant

"Wonderful One"






So throw it down Cleveland rain
The Queen of Love has flown again
To seek her daughter

Who must lie beside the thief
Whose golden tongue she will believe
Defies the order

Oh, that is why [that is love]
Oh, that is why
Shall we dance and never stop
Take my hand and stop the clock
From turning over

Spirit weave and spirit bend
In the move that has no end
That we must follow
Oh, oh

Show me your eyes
Oh light of the sun
Touch me with fire
My mind is undone
All life inspire
My freedom has come
I drift through desire
My wonderful one

When you do what you do
I can never, never, never
Let you go

And when you feel the way you feel
You can never, no, never let it show

Oh,show me your eyes
Oh light of the sun
Touch me with fire
My mind is undone
All life inspire
My freedom has come
I drift through desire
My wonderful one
Oh, ah, oh-ah-oh, ah, ooh.

Throw it down Cleveland Rain
The Queen of Love has flown again
To seek her daughter

[Who lies beneath the seas]
Who must lie beneath the theif
Whose golden tongue she will believe
Defies the order

That is why, That is why
That is why, That is why


Things that ALWAYS Make US go Mmm~~~







Rock On~~~

As Always

:angel:

Cleveland, Ohio Rocks On..!

The H.O.M.E. Of Rock & Roll

 

[Lainy]

Hey all, I know this thread isn't about it but I would love celebrating this day along with all of you who have been part of my life throughout this year. Let's celebrate this day with joy and love, let our sadness outside of our hearts. Today isn't day to stay broken-heart. Like me, I know that to you as well It's always a treat to wish Happy Birthday to someone so sweet.

Today I'm thinking of Michael with love on him birthday and wishing him everything that brings him happiness today and always. :wub:

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Michael I give you my love as a gift. :give_flowers:

EDIT:

Aaaaaaaaaaaah! *jumps up so high in fright she hits her head on the ceiling* How could you do that to me, Lainy? :lol:

I know this is a scary ghost but It weren't my real intention. :tease: :lol:

:bugeyed That is one freaky ghost! :lol:

Yeah! unk:

 

[Ashtanga]

Yes, today is the birthday of Michael :wub: :heart: ...

Today is to be a happy day, but for me it is not, I could not and really had no desire to celebrate and commemorate. I know.... I should, but I can not and I believe, I never will be able to celebrate and commemorate this important day. Sorry Michael, but I can not.

Well... just....



Happy Birthday my dear!!!! :heart:

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*big sigh*

 

[8701girl]

^ :hug:

 

[Ashtanga]

^ :hug:

:hug:

 

[Lisha]

I have been having this melody in my head for near a week now so I thought I'd go ahead and post it all for you. It took me awhile to recall enough of the lyrics to even be able to look it up...man! I really love the melody...so smooth, and lovely.

It might not have -that- much to do with this thread's topic, but it is about LOVE and it is about loving someone "Always and Forever."

It also has some adlibs at the end that remind me of YANA..."you and me, me and you together"



[youtube]2I_cJiGLsB8[/youtube]


I wonder if his LITD girl ever took the time to tell him that she really cared?

Always and forever
Each moment with you
It's just like a dream to me
That somehow came true

And I know tomorrow
Will still be the same
Cause we got a life of love
That won't ever change

Every day love me your own special way
Melt all my heart away with a smile
Take time to tell me
You really care
And we'll share tomorrow together

I'll always Love You...Forever

There'll always be sunshine
when I look at you
Something I can't explain
Just the things that you do

And if you get lonely
Phone me and take
A second to give to me
That magic you make, and

Every day love me your own special way
Melt all my heart away with a smile
Take time to tell me
You really care
And we'll share tomorrow together

I'll always Love You...Forever

Every day lend me your own special way
Melt all my heart away with a smile
Take time to tell me, You really care
And we'll share tomorrow together

Baby, Baby, Baby
I'll Love You Forever
I'll always Love You Forever
Together
Forever


(I also think the song works really well for expressing what a lot of fans feel about Michael...like: That magic you make or Melt all my heart:heart:away with a smile, etc. )

EDIT: Another adlib: Loving you...is the thing I've planned...for a very long time. (That fits with some of the things we've discussed in here too).

 

[Sdeidjs]

No matter where we have been, where we are, or where we are going...

The one very important thing that one (s) should always remember;

"Happiness resides not in posessions and not in gold; the deep feeling
of happiness forever dwells in the everlasting heart and soul..!" ~Democritus~

Paraphrased by Susie

God Bless

As Always

:angel:

 

[MysteriousPhoenix]

I have been having this melody in my head for near a week now so I thought I'd go ahead and post it all for you. It took me awhile to recall enough of the lyrics to even be able to look it up...man! I really love the melody...so smooth, and lovely.

It might not have -that- much to do with this thread's topic, but it is about LOVE and it is about loving someone "Always and Forever."

It also has some adlibs at the end that remind me of YANA..."you and me, me and you together"

I wonder if his LITD girl ever took the time to tell him that she really cared?

Wow! I love that song!

This song has been "haunting" me lately! (And I love it!)

 

[Lisha]

Wow! I love that song!

This song has been "haunting" me lately! (And I love it!)

Wow, MP! The lyrics to this song are amazing. Incredibly romantic. I can see why you love it. How does Stevie always come up with such great songs with such touching meaning behind them? Like Ribbon in the Sky and this, and others?

Considering these lyrics, how sweet it is titled "Overjoyed." I like that. Lovely. Thanks, MP!

Over time, I've been building my castle of love
Just for two, though you never knew you were my reason
I've gone much too far for you now to say
That I've got to throw my castle away

Over dreams, I have picked out a perfect come true
Though you never knew it was of you I've been dreaming
The sandman has come from too far away
For you to say come back some other day

And though you don't believe that they do
They do come true
For did my dreams
Come true when I looked at you
And maybe too, if you would believe
You too might be
Overjoyed, over loved, over me

Over hearts, I have painfully turned every stone
Just to find, I had found what I've searched to discover
I've come much too far for me now to find
The love that I've sought can never be mine

And though you don't believe that they do
They do come true
For did my dreams
Come true when I looked at you
And maybe too, if you would believe
You too might be
Overjoyed, over loved, over me

And though the odds say improbable
What do they know
For in romance
All true love needs is a chance
And maybe with a chance you will find
You too like I
Overjoyed, over loved, over you, over you

 

[Ashtanga]

No matter where we have been, where we are, or where we are going...

The one very important thing that one (s) should always remember;

"Happiness resides not in posessions and not in gold; the deep feeling of happiness forever dwells in the everlasting heart and soul..!" ~Democritus~

Paraphrased by Susie

God Bless

As Always

:angel:

:yes: >>>> :clapping:


Thanks! :wub:

 

[8701girl]

:hug:

 

[Rubi]

" And I don't want the world to see me
'Cause I don't think they'd understand
When everything's made to be broken
I just want you to know who I am "

[youtube]HmsClQ1H0ME[/youtube]

This is all I wish I could say ...
Hugs to all

 

[Sdeidjs]

unk:

God Bless ;D

As Always

:angel:

 

[Lisha]

I want to take a moment to wish two very special ladies and contributors to our thread here some BIRTHDAY WISHES!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, APE and MYSTERIOUSPHOENIX!

Thanks for all your many fun and insightful posts in here you two, we appreciate you! Enjoy your day! God Bless.

 

[MysteriousPhoenix]

:thanks_sign::cheers:
:wub:arty::holiday:


I was just listening to the radio the other night and thinking that hopefully this will be a good year for me. I was thinking in my head, maybe this is it. At the very same time, I was going up and down the dial on my radio and I just so happened to stop right on this song right as it was beginning. I kid you not. I believe this was God giving me His answer to my question. I especially felt goosebumps when I heard the part ...

"Are you gonna wait for a sign? You're miracle?
Stand up and fight!
This is it!" :wild:

 

[8701girl]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY APE & MYSTERIOUSPHOENIX!
:birthday:

I hope u both of your dreams & wishes come true, and hope u both wil have a great day

 

[No-Body]

MP, Ape – HAPPY BIRTHDAY gals, enjoy it – this is your day unk: Queenie,if i may call you that (i really like it :cheeky thanks for letting us all know.

Folks, y'all betta hang on to ur seatbelts, cause this is gonna be one loooong and bumpy ride, i can feel it. Don't say you haven't been duly warned. Read on @ the peril of ur own sanity and patience. I got a feelin' this is gonna be one of them long arse posts of mine that should sufice for quiiiite some time, so by the time i'm through with it there ain't gonna be no beggin' for more, to semi-quote Janet, not in this circumstance anyhows. Btw of my long arse posts, thanks to all who have expressed their appreciation for the last one. Not quite sure you will all feel the same after this one though lol.

I just have to give the props up to Suz for the all amazing vids she done posting. She never fails to amaze me with all them treasures. God bless you my friend and THANK YOU.

Now...having the disclaimer (which in and by itself is longer than some people's posts in this or any other thread for that matter lol) outta way, we can get down to bizness. Leaving jokes aside, i know this past weekend has been terribly tough and painful for all of us to deal with. It certainly has been so for me. My 'grand' plan was to go into the city and witness some of the celebrations organized in different sites, two of which were very close to my office, but i ended up spending the weekend at home mostly listening to an online radio which is dedicated to Michael's music. It had been on for more than a year and i was aware of it, but never until this weekend did i listen to it. I know, sometimes i can be slower than a snail and a turtle put together.

The music truly had a therapeutic effect and it was exactly what i needed at this time, more than seeing people's love for Michael which i know hasn't changed, but only increased. The amazing thing about it is that it proved to be an opportunity to discover some true marvels from Michael's early career. I have to confess that beyond the famous hits and videos such as the Ed Sullivan performance or Can you feel it, i wasn't and still i am not all that familiar with Michael's work as a child and a teenager, both with his brothers and by himself. It was therefore with this occasion that i've heard for the very first ever more than a dozen of J5 and solo songs from back in the '70s. They truly are jewels and i feel very, very guilty about not having listening to them until now. It made me realize how much of Michael's life and craft i have actually missed, but i guess it's never too late to make up for lost time.

Two of the songs which stroke a chord were In our small way and People make the world go round. They were further reassurances of my feeling that Michael's core hadn't changed all that much with the passing of time. This kind of songs had always been in him, even when they were written by others and he kept on with them in his adult years, because all of this love and care for the world and people were in his heart his entire life and that I think is one of the, if not THE most beautiful thing about the man.

Of course that i had to utubing and find some videos for this masterpieces and i found some really awesome pics with irresistible little Michael. I'm sure you will all enjoy them very much.



The great message of this song can be best expressed imho in what i like to call in Italian “la battaglia per la quotidianità” (the battle for everyday living). I know this is gonna sound strange, but i got this list that i'm building up with words or expressions which sound really, really well in particular languages so much so that they help you visualize the object or the situation and in this particular case, the Italian language seems the most apropriate for this job.

What i mean by battle for everyday living is quite simple really – it is my firm belief that the real challenge in life and in all relationships (family ties, romantic connections, faith issues) is to deal with the aspects of everyday living and doing our most to cherish every day and do our best in any circumstance, because the extraordinary occasions are few and far in between. True heroism i believe is made of consistency of feeling and their affirmation, not taking anyone or anything for granted. It's like our little boy taught later when he grew up EVERY DAY create your history; he didn't say every month or every year, but every day. I happen to wholeheartedly agree with him and i think most of you as well, there ain't nothin special about what i'm saying. I'm only pointin' out the obvious, i know.



They'd swear you're a hippy if you have long hair
Young politicians fight for poverty
While people still cry for equality

Brilliant, right?

Isn't striking to see how in some of them pictures there is this carefree little boy, just like any other boy his age, nothing letting you guess what he had accomplished by the age when most kids were still tryin' to put their notebooks in order for the next day of school. At the same time, there are certain pictures where the eyes and the facial expression – so lost in thought, in such a pensive mode - are that of a young man who had seen far too much for such a young age and who had the weight of world on his shoulders. And then we have the reversed image in Michael as an adult who tried to recapture that lost childhood and that sense of adventure and ease throughout his life and the sparkle of the young boy in the mature, confident man.

What i just wrote would be worthless without some photographical evidence, especially since pics have been kinda missing in this thread lately, don't y'all agree? I did steal a few from one of the videos before, but they were far too cute not to, i really couldn't help it.

some things neva changed lol

This was the very video i ever saw of Michael back in 1992. I don't know about yall, but he had me at the wink. Can you believe it that back when he presented the moonwalk and he was basically ruling the world, as he would the following decades as well, but back in the Thriller and Bad days i was 'blissfully' unaware of the man's very existence? :doh:

I dare anyone to tell me that ain't the very same gorgeous human being. I would tell 'em they are either blind or they are using the wrong eyes, cause the man hadn't changed all that much, he remained the same, only the world around him got uglier and nastier, that's the awful, sad truth.

I know that looking at those pictures might cause pain to many of you, i know it is heartbreaking to think of it all. It is not my intention to hurt anyone's feelings. But this question of hurt makes me think of them paralles people make between the state of the weather (nope, not of the nation lol) and the way they feel inside – whether they match or are the complete opposites. It is wonderful to sing in the rain and the sun to be in the heart to chase away the stormy clouds outside, but it is heart wrenching to be surrounded by light and heat and feel empty and cold on the inside. There are even some weather dependent people whose very physiology depends on it, and that is quite serious a condition, but anyways, i disgressed enough.

But just to lighten up the mood a bit and since i was talkin about the weather here are a couple of songs from a great band - Crowded House, both of which deal beautifully with the issue of weather.


Always Take The Weather With You



And also, from one of Ireland's other great exports outside of my boys from U2, another great musical family – the Corrs here goes a very sweet song – would you be happier ?



And now, in the hopefully not totally futile effort to bring this post back on topic, those one, two people that are left reading by this point lol, how about a couple of songs which made me think of Michael and that girl of his in the dark/light and who knows where else, IF she existed of course.

I wouldn't know, but the helpless, cureless romantic in me is stubborn enough to believe that she does exist and somehow, some way she did manage to bring some sort of happiness into his life and make him feel every day was his birthday. Ours is a merciful God and i believe He would not have left Michael leave this earth without the fulfillment of true and unconditional love, not after all he had been through and all he had given to the world. Also the glow on his face - that of a man in love, especially during the movie, make me really hopeful that he had finally found her, like Bryan Adams with the help of the unique Barbara Streisand sang http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK4peuAODtc and maybe he even had to chance to stand by his woman in whatever way he could like Lenny Kravitz. It is a beautiful and comforting thought, but i guess we'll never know.



Seeing them pictures from the movie it made me think – do you think it is possible Michael might have felt nervous at times during the rehersals knowing that some day she might see that performance and be in audience? I know it's sound a bit strange, but hear me out.

My dad is lawyer, he used to be an army man – NATO and stuff – and he's been pleadin for more than a decade now and i have not seen him 'perform' not even once. I initially believed that if me and mom were in the courtroom we might create further emotions than the ones he was already having, but that must have changed in the decade that has since passed lol. I was told he has a pretty commanding presence and when he talks the hall goes silent and not only because of his loud voice, but because of what and how he says.

But returning to Michael, do you think that maybe he was nervous about the way in which she would view his work, if, as it has been proposed here, his art played such an important part in their connection? I'm pretty sure he didn't need someone who was so in tune with every little thing he had ever done that at some point she might have told him – honey, you kicked the wrong leg here lol. But on the other hand, i would image he wanted and needed someone who could understand his work and what he stood for. Only theories, i know....

And doing a 360 here returning to the pain we are all feeling these days. This is a very difficult time for all of us and i remember that at some point in this thread there was even the question of prefering not to have known Michael at all rather than go through all the pain over all the years, especially this last one, but i am almost sure if anybody around here ever felt that way it was only temporary and they were talking from underneath the crushing weight of the sorrow they felt at that point.

I can only talk for myself, but i know i wouldn't trade for anything the world my experince of knowing and loving Michael. The very few things that are good about me come from the Lord and many of them are due to Michael. At times, it is difficult to see all that clearly where he ends and where i begin, but i can say for sho that i don't owe to him my exquisite taste when it comes to furniture and crafts j/k.

No amount or intensity of pain felt could ever outweigh or even compare to the light, the lessons to love and to give and the love he brought into my life. I know there ain't nothin special in what i'm saying and all of us here and far beyond this little thread and this message board think and feel this same way.

In Our small way video i posted there is a most beautiful comment which made me cry. I think you will all agree with it.

Little did you know dear sweet child when you first sang this song that you would do great things, and you did change the world. You made it a better place, in a big way, in just the little time you were here. You cared enough. Thank You Michael


Now I really should be on my way. I dare anyone to try and quote stuff from this scroll lol. I'm having a vision of Ash re-posting all the pictures right about now, therefore........ Ash, from the bottom of my heart, DON'T repost them lol. I'm only kiddin' my friend, u know that already.

I betta go back into the fog I came from. So long, farewell, auf wieder sehen....how did the song go?? :cheeky: And everyone... make sure to change the world - today, in our very small way, each of us. :yes:

 

[Ashtanga]

some things neva changed lol

:heart: :heart: :heart:

I'll never tire of looking at Michael. :wub: >>>>>>>>> :girl_in_love: >>>> ALWAYS!!!!

Michael....

Now I really should be on my way. I dare anyone to try and quote stuff from this scroll lol. I'm having a vision of Ash re-posting all the pictures right about now, therefore........ Ash, from the bottom of my heart, DON'T repost them lol. I'm only kiddin' my friend, u know that already.

:shifty:

:lol:

Thanks for these wonderful pictures. Made me smile. :wub:

 

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Shabuya, thanks so much for the birthday greeting and sharing your heartfelt feelings. I think you said many things that many of us feel. The past year really has been an emotional rollercoaster. I do believe though, that we can all make it to the other side ... as long as we have each other to lean on. Hey, that makes me think of this song ...




Note: Anyone who reposts pictures is automatically BANNED! Haha! Just adding some comic relief there.

BTW, I really liked this particular pic. Mind if I use it as my new siggy sometime? Makes me wanna reach out and give him a hug!