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MJ Recording at the Cascio studio?
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MJRemixed
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Ivy, Oprah asked Eddie and then Teddy the same Questions about the authenticity of the vocals.
Search on youtube and watch it again.
And watch her response. She doesn't give a **** what he says. He could have confessed there and then all she would have replied with would have been "uuh-huh" as seen on every show that she does.
Search on youtube and watch it again.
And watch her response. She doesn't give a **** what he says. He could have confessed there and then all she would have replied with would have been "uuh-huh" as seen on every show that she does.
I said relationship and not friendship. everyone knows that Oprah is interested in whether Michael was normal or weird or if he did any inappropriate things. we all know that. but that's not the issue here.
My point was Oprah wasn't investigating anything about the vocals, she wasn't asking questions, she wasn't demanding anything such as proof. she wasn't questioning what she was told. She mentioned the controversy, she accepted the answers she got. that's all.
It's some people that expected the Oprah show to be a proof showcase and it's your own expectations and dissatisfaction.
To me neither Oprah nor Cascio's were trying to prove anything.
and that's my point exactly
she said "there's a controversy about the vocals"
they said "it's Michael"
she said "okay. epic says it's Michael as well." and we are done.
Like I said she wasn't investigating anything about the vocals and/or she wasn't asking for proof. she asked a simple question and either was satisfied with the answer or didn't even care.
Other people had high and unrealistic expectations about the show and now feel dissatisfied.
My point was Oprah wasn't investigating anything about the vocals, she wasn't asking questions, she wasn't demanding anything such as proof. she wasn't questioning what she was told. She mentioned the controversy, she accepted the answers she got. that's all.
It's some people that expected the Oprah show to be a proof showcase and it's your own expectations and dissatisfaction.
To me neither Oprah nor Cascio's were trying to prove anything.
and that's my point exactly
she said "there's a controversy about the vocals"
they said "it's Michael"
she said "okay. epic says it's Michael as well." and we are done.
Like I said she wasn't investigating anything about the vocals and/or she wasn't asking for proof. she asked a simple question and either was satisfied with the answer or didn't even care.
Other people had high and unrealistic expectations about the show and now feel dissatisfied.
well
when I compare the amount of time she spent / number of questions she asked on Cascio's relationship with Michael versus the vocals with Eddie&Teddy , I'm quite confident in my determination of that show wasn't focused on vocal controversy or proving anything. Do not confuse with what you hoped to see with what Oprah actually planned to show you.
when I compare the amount of time she spent / number of questions she asked on Cascio's relationship with Michael versus the vocals with Eddie&Teddy , I'm quite confident in my determination of that show wasn't focused on vocal controversy or proving anything. Do not confuse with what you hoped to see with what Oprah actually planned to show you.
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No doubt Oprah is more interested in Michael's "relationship" with Eddie. However, should we also consider the timing of the show? The Oprah show appearance is clearly a vehicle to promote the album.
Although the press did not talk about the controversy, the controversy became public the time Eddie and Teddy went to Oprah. Eddie and Teddy could have done a much better job in clearing the doubt on Oprah. I still don't understand why they didn't. Showing a picture of an empty studio is simply inadequate.
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That "special" didn't get to the bottom of anything, but why would it? Oprah has only ever cared about ratings and when it comes to Mr. Jackson she doesn't give a shart about him. She's not known for asking the hard questions, unless they were going to bring a person to tears.
Look at her interview with Lisa Marie. She did whatever she could to make Lisa Marie as emotional as possible.
And apparently the Jackson children expressed concerns about the vocal authenticities in the one special and they were edited out at the last minute? She doesn't give a crap.
If however she could prove them to be liars she'd be the first to stab them in the back.
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Exactly my thoughts
then he was recording Beautiful Girl :yes:
I think we were more hinting at facial features rather than dress
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Yes of course his facial features,but still you've got to go by what he's wearing,to find the match up from where the video is from. I was searching videos I knew of where Michael was in studio and one thing besides how MJ looks to look for would be what he was wearing at the time. so it only makes sense to look for the same type of shirt he's wearing.
:wub:This belongs to some videos that were sold on EBAY last year as MJREMIXED confirmed , it said it was from the INVINCIBLE sessions or circa that time.
No Cascio related at all.
:agree: Yes. You can tell by the shirt he has on. I remember when these was on ebay. There was this one with MJ wearing the black button up shirt & another where he's wearing a red shirt.
Thanks for posting.
This is a better match-up
Than this one from the Geraldo interview:
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Yes of course his facial features,but still you've got to go by what he's wearing. :wub:
:agree: Yes. You can tell by the shirt he has on. I remember when these was on ebay. There was this one with MJ wearing the black button up shirt & another where he's wearing a red shirt.
Thanks for posting.
This is a better match-up
Than this one from the Geraldo interview:
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Where can I find these videos?! I really would like to see what's happening in them.... Can anyone direct me to the videos?! I really wanna see the one that was on ebay... or something like that.
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I might have it on my hard drive. I'd have to look. I think the story goes as someone claimed to have real footage of Michael recording and never before seen and was trying to sale it on ebay, it was an outrageous price!! 9,000 for i think one hour of footage the owner said it was 8 mm film.
The seller on ebay posted a small snippet in quicktime and later ended up on youtube for awhile of the recording session video as proof it was not fake.
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Here's a link to one of the threads from 2009:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84117
The seller on ebay posted a small snippet in quicktime and later ended up on youtube for awhile of the recording session video as proof it was not fake.
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Here's a link to one of the threads from 2009:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84117
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Renan_Antonio
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I would love to see that video, maybe if you find it on your hard drive you could post here.
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Yeah, thinks for the link, and if you find it could you please PM with a way to the vid somehow if you do have it. Thanks a lot.
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To be honest, no matter what one's opinion may be, considering the timing, she was more concerned about her ratings. Being it was about Michael and all, not to mention to promote the album, I mean did you really expect her to say "So you say it's Michael, I'd like to hear this because he sounds so different, elaborate"? Reality is, she wouldn't want to tarnish the image of the album, after she was granted this interview by The Estate & The Cascio family. An indication of this is the fact that the vocal authenticity segment only took up the early half of the show.
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In response to a couple posts that seem to have misinformation that Oprah cut out a part where the children questioned the tracks.
It was concluded in the debate thread that there was no evidence that the crew recorded the children saying anything regarding the authenticity of the Cascio tracks. It was referring to what Michael's mother had said.
Does this really need it's own thread anyway?
It was concluded in the debate thread that there was no evidence that the crew recorded the children saying anything regarding the authenticity of the Cascio tracks. It was referring to what Michael's mother had said.
Does this really need it's own thread anyway?
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1.) I'm sorry if this picture has been already posted somewhere, but I couldn't find it.
No worries. This certain screen capture/pic. hasn't been posted.
2.) Is it MJ recording at the Eddie Cascio studio?
imho and others No.
3.) Because i'm pretty sure it's him in the picture?
Yes, it's Michael Jackson in the pic.
4.) and also, his look is just like back in 2007.
From what proof some of us could find and an ebay auctioner, this picture is most likely from the Invincible era recordings.
5.) And what is that microphone? Weird, hum?
It looks like the same mic in the screen caps from the said video that was made known in 2009 from the Invincible era. The screen cap/pic. is also blurry, maybe from resizing the capture/pic..
6.) Anyway, i'm sorry if I got something wrong with my English, I'm from Brazil.
Don't be sorry. I myself can understand your English just fine.
7.) And if the photo has been already posted, please forgive me and delete the thread please.
As far as posts in this thread and previous threads in the past, No, this certain picture hasn't been posted.
I answered your OP in questions & answers,above. I hope this helps.
Here are some posts in the thread that show other pics. of where this screen capture came from.
Page #3 post #34
Page #3 post #42
Page #5 post #70
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This belongs to some videos that were sold on EBAY last year as MJREMIXED confirmed , it said it was from the INVINCIBLE sessions or circa that time.
No Cascio related at all.
This looks like it was recorded around the time of LWMJ.
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^ I hope we get to see that footage some time
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It shouldn't happen. According to Eddie Michael ordered to destroy everything.
barok232
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Well if Eddie says so, hehe... :smilerolleyes:
But actually I wasn't talking about the Cascio studio footage, but the Invincible studio footage
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I know. It has been destroyed. Just like the pictures you see in this thread, they're destroyed. You don't see them. All I am doing is sticking to Eddie's logic.
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I answered your OP in questions & answers,above. I hope this helps.
Here are some posts in the thread that show other pics. of where this screen capture came from.
Page #3 post #34
Page #3 post #42
Page #5 post #70
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Thanks souldreamer7, you helped me a lot in the thread =D
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Than this one from the Geraldo interview:
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I wouldn't put it past Frank Cascio to include this photo as "evidence" hahaah in his upcoming book. But it is not from his "studio". Keep in mind Frank surely has plenty of photos from the Invincible era studio recordings, he was his personal assistant then.
Exactly.