Official MJJC Support Thread - Japanese Tsunami

Some details from our 10 pm news ... the older the nuclear power plant, the better, because after 20 - 30 years they have generated the acquisition costs and after that they are just money machines. That's one of the reasons why they don't want to shut down the old ones. There are not many costs left and the average nuclear power plant produces electricity worth about 1 million Euros per day.

The companies make billions with nuclear power plants and one of the reasons is that the taxpayers have to pay for the storage of nuclear waste. They also don't have real insurance, so it's again the taxpayers that have to pay for disasters like in Fukushima.

Greenpeace says that if the companies had to pay for all of those things, nuclear power would be 10 times more expensive, nobody would buy it anymore. Economic researchers also agree that the companies couldn't survive without subventions.
 
thank you all for all of the updates...I continue to keep these poor people in my prayers. I wish their own government would stop lying to them and tell them how bad the situation really is..
 
Thanks for posting the above link, Autumn.


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Edit: now realizing it's for US residents only.
 
Thanks for posting the above link, Autumn.


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Edit: now realizing it's for US residents only.

Yes, for U.S. residents. Copies go to U.S. senators/representatives. But, Milka posted a European link. (Greenpeace)

I see that it's now being reported on CNN that "radiation has been found in milk in the United States." And typically, "it poses no risk for human health." I'm not believing ANYTHING "official" at this point. The U.S. has a financial interest in nuclear power. . . . . .

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/03/31/radiation.us/index.html?hpt=T2

What happens is that cows eat the grass, and any radioactivity is concentrated in the milk. This is not only a Japanese problem, or an American problem, because the radiation has now reached everyone, globally.
 
Yes, for U.S. residents. Copies go to U.S. senators/representatives. But, Milka posted a European link. (Greenpeace)

Not Greenpeace, Global 2000. ;) And it's not a European link, people all over the world can sign it. It's in my signature, but I'll post it again anyway:

http://shutdownnukes.eu/

And if you scroll down to the supporters, the list gets longer and longer. In the beginning there were maybe between 5 - 10.

And then there is this link, it won't tell you much, but it's local celebrities (most of them very well known in Austria, some also in Germany and probably Switzerland, I guess) supporting it too.

http://atomausstieg.at/promis/

TV hosts, musicians, comedians, etc.

It's legit, so please sign it.

About Global 2000:
http://www.global2000.at/site/en/aboutus/global2000/missionstatement/

In light of what French President Nicolas Sarkozy said today about how nuclear power is important for climate protection (cynicism at its best, why don't they just shut up?), I think this is interesting:

http://www.global2000.at/site/en/whatwedo/nuclear/factsnuclearpower/

Nuclear power as climate protection?
It is a fatal mistake to believe that nuclear power is climate neutral. Every stage of the entire nuclear chain reaction produces more greenhouse gas than using renewable sources of energy. Nuclear power is no alternative to fossil fuels. Nuclear power prevents the development of sustainable strategies for climate protection. Future investments in nuclear power delay investments in efficiency measures and hamper sustainable and resource-conserving solutions such as wind power, solar power, biomass and geothermal energy.
 
OK, thanks Milka, for clarification. We all need to sign whatever we can. Seems like governments are not really LEARNING anything from this, in a "it can't happen here" fantasy?

I just read (CNN) that some bodies can't be recovered because the areas, AND the bodies, are radioactive. It's usual for the Japanese Buddhists to conduct elaborate funerals to lay loved ones to rest. This is yet another blow to the Japanese people. And it seems to go on, and on.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/31/japan.nuclear.bodies/index.html?hpt=T2
 
There haven't been updates from the IRSN for the past 2 days.

On the news here :

groundwater 15 meters below the plant is contaminated with iodine 131

Sea water contamination , 300 m from the plant, is getting worse.

We knew about leaks in reactors 2 and 3, now they are mentioning leaks in 1 too.

It would be a bad idea to cover the reactors in concrete now, because the fuel has melted, and can go through concrete. The main danger now is contamination to the ground (melted fuel going through the tank and shell, directly into the ground). So they need to find ways to protect the ground, cool the reactors, then take the reactors/fuel away, and then cover the plant.

Taking the reactor or the fuel away will take years, they said that for 3 miles island it took 6 years to get to the reactor.

A team from Areva just arrived in Japan.
 
I see that it's now being reported on CNN that "radiation has been found in milk in the United States." And typically, "it poses no risk for human health." I'm not believing ANYTHING "official" at this point. The U.S. has a financial interest in nuclear power. . . . . .

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/03/31/radiation.us/index.html?hpt=T2

What happens is that cows eat the grass, and any radioactivity is concentrated in the milk. This is not only a Japanese problem, or an American problem, because the radiation has now reached everyone, globally.

Yes, so far all organisations in France (pro and anti nuclear ) have confirmed very low levels in France.

Honestly, I am worried about the US and north America , especially Alaska . I'm not sure what this sea water contamination can do, where it will go.
 
They have to leave their homes and their beloved animals behind
 
I was thinking there should be a petition for the U.S. Thanks for the link. I just cannot understand how Obama could say the power plants here are safe. NO power plant is safe. :no:

Politicians who say this scare me to death. The people voted them into their office, and politicians are supposed to do good things for the people in their countries. You would at least expect this in a democracy. The accident in Fukushima just makes it very obvious yet again, that that's not what they are doing and that they don't care. It's all about power and money.
 
This is the reality of nuclear safety. "Rachel Maddow" is a very well respected journalist on MSNBC. Please watch this, if you can.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/201...on-the-safety-problems-of-u-s-nuclear-plants/

The reality of nuclear safety in the U.S. (and I'd expect, in Europe, too) is that there ISN'T any. The back-up systems in U.S. nuclear power plants are even worse/less effective than those at Fukushima. Some of the U.S. plants are exactly the same as in Fukushima, i.e. GE owned/built, boiling water type. The spent fuel rods have NO "containment." They are simply immersed in cool water, which must be replenished. To replenish them, there must be electricity to pump the water. And if the electricity fails? Similar or worse disaster than Fukushima is highly likely.

If you can't see the video internationally, here is the heart of what Rachel said. She said that there have been MANY more accidents at U.S. plants than the media reported. Many partial meltdowns and releases of radioactivity . . it was not just Three Mile Island. Nuclear power plants have back-up electrical systems to keep the pumps going and the reactors cool. There is the primary system. If the electricity fails, they have diesel generators. If those fail (because of earthquakes or tsunamis. . which ARE possible on the U.S. west coast. . or because of terrorist attacks, or other reasons) then there is a final system, which is battery operated. The Fukushima plant's batteries were for eight hours. When that eight hours ended, is when the real emergency began. The U.S. battery systems? Only FOUR hours.
 
Not an update regarding the situation, but I thought it was a nice read:

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His nicknames include "Ginger Jackson," (his favorite), "Red" (too boring), and "Cinnamon Stick" (coach Peter Oppegard), but this weekend Sean Rabbitt stands out not for his "orange" hair, but for organizing a star-studded benefit ice show for Japanese relief.


Rabbitt, with the help of his father Don and his figure skating club, has organized "Skaters Care," which boasts performers like two-time U.S. champion Jeremy Abbott and two-time world junior champion Adam Rippon. Proceeds from the show will go to the Red Cross.


You are skating your Michael Jackson program - have you gotten any feedback on that program from your Japanese fans?

After Nationals, I got a couple of emails that people had recorded my short and my long program [off of Japanese TV] and they wanted to send it to me so I could watch it with Japanese commentary. I think they like it because it's different. They like Daisuke [Takahashi] because he always takes a chance with his programs. When he did Swan Lake, he didn't just do Swan Lake, he did techno Swan Lake.


***Of note, Rabbitt mentioned that several fans from Japan are flying over to attend "Skaters Care." If you cannot attend the show in person, but would like to donate to the cause, please go to: http://www.skaterscare.com/faq and scroll down to the "donate" button.

Would you like to read the entire interview? Then please, click here!
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/02/japan-idUSL3E7F204Z20110402

Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) said it had found a crack in a concrete pit that was leaking water at its No.2 reactor in Fukushima, measuring 1,000 millisieverts of radiation per hour.

"With radiation levels rising in the seawater near the plant, we have been trying to confirm the reason why, and in that context, this could be one source," said Hidehiko Nishiyama, deputy head of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA).

He cautioned, however: "We can't really say for certain until we've studied the results."


They can't say for certain ... now I'm waiting for them to back-paddle again.

And then there is this:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=13273089

Malfunction Forces Czech Nuclear Reactor Shut Down

An official says a Czech nuclear power plant is shutting down one of its four reactors due to a pipe leaking irradiated water but cautions there is no safety threat.

Petr Spilka, spokesman for the Dukovany nuclear plant says the problem occurred on a small pipe that vents air from a water system located inside the reactor's containment structure. He says the water cannot get out of the containment structure and the malfunction poses no threat.

He said the reactor will be shut down later Friday. It is not clear when it could be restarted.

Despite Japan's nuclear crisis, the Czech government has pledged to develop its nuclear program and build at least two more reactors at another nuclear plant in Temelin.


Here is the map again:

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Wien = Vienna. The red ones are the ones without containment (I don't know what containment this guy is talking about, I think there are different kinds, or maybe he is just lying).

Dukovany yesterday, Krsko March 23:

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3308475&postcount=538

Then the problem with the cooling system during the shut down of Isar I a few weeks ago ... not to mention Fukushima ... and they are STILL telling us nuclear power is safe.
 
Milka, that's terrifying! They say it's "leaking radioactive water," but "there is no safety risk?" Has the world gone totally insane! That's pretty close to where you live, right?

So, the Pacific ocean is being poisoned? They're not saying if it's only the iodine, but cesium, too? Cesium has a half-life of thirty YEARS! It enters the food chain, i.e. bigger fish eat the smaller ones, or birds eat them, and so on. Horrible.
 
Milka, that's terrifying! They say it's "leaking radioactive water," but "there is no safety risk?" Has the world gone totally insane! That's pretty close to where you live, right?

Yes, Dukovany is 30 km away from the Austrian border and 90 km from Vienna.

And the other 2, Isar 1 and Krsko are very close to Austria too.

Dukovany is also the one that is the subject of the docudrama that I posted a couple of days ago:

http://videos.arte.tv/de/videos/der_erste_tag-3783540.html

(only available in French and German)

If something happens there, parts of Austria are in deep trouble. I also read that in 1996 there were 76 "incidents" in Dukovany. I'm guessing that just an average year. And this thing isn't getting younger either.

I also saw a report (ORF) a few days ago about German nuclear power plants and what would happen in case of an accident. It was terrifying. A school and a nursery in the neighborhood of one power plant didn't even know what to do in case of an accident, the head of the school said they would do the same like in case of a fire, gather the children and then get them out of the building. The interviewer said, but if there is radioactivity, you are not supposed to let them outside. He looked at her funny and basically just shrugged. Both, the school and nursery didn't even have iodine tablets and didn't know where they would get them from. Authorities responsible in case of an accident also didn't know what to do. In general. Not with the tablets, not with anything else. So yeah, there are no plans. Because in realitiy you can't do much. You can't evacute hundreds of thousands or even millions of people.

They also said that there are child leukemia clusters around nuclear power plants (this was not about accidents, this was about just living near a power plant). They interviewed one doctor working at a hospital, because nuclear lobbies say that there are child leukemia clusters all over the world not related to nuclear power plants, like it's a "natural" thing. This doctor was part of a study that said exactly that. The interviewer asked him where those clusters are. He named one in Germany. The interviewer said that she did some research about that and the reason was some malfunction at an x-ray office exposing children to high radiation (which is tragic in itself, how is that possible?). So she asked him several times to name more. He couldn't, got angry and just got up and said the interview is over. Then they interviewed another doctor who was also part of the study and he agreed with the interviewer. So even if there are no accidents, living near a nuclear power plant is a health risk. And this hospital doctor was obviously working for the nuclear lobby.
 
Unpopular opinion, maybe, that might be shredded, and deemed as conspirational filth or what not, but I don't care for this, I'm trying to understand what's going on with this tragic-comic world. And many elites have allowed themselves the 'responsibility' to rule this world and influence its destiny, to be mild. This is a major catastrophic event that is quickly affecting the entire world. A key syntagm I'd insert on here is: nuclear power/energy. Another one, to me (and some others), is: High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP). ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program#Conspiracy_theories

Just a thought.. well, not just, as I've been reading about this enough to conclude (without certainty) what I did. I'd appreciate if insults aren't made regarding this unpopular belief, but that's not important to me. It would only be important the time when many would start joining together (not just on the Internet) to raise awareness on the irreversible destruction man is doing to this planet and us, in general, and how we are 'dumbed-down' to feel that only God is controlling what goes on to this world. We could make a difference by exposing these self-proclaimed gods ruining the planet with their active lies and disinformation and derisions (like Michael's 2003 allegations that happened a few months after the war in Irak started, and he actually had a song 'All In Your Name", unreleased for now, and 'We've Had Enough' to address that). Why are we keep being fed with half-truths, with sweet lies like 'We are not in danger because of these nuclear plants', afterall? Isn't it obvious? They want us dumb and ineffective, fearing divinity and waiting the sky to fall on us, feeling powerless, when in fact, we're latent giants unaware of being so.

Nuclear power is swiping humankind off this planet, not even mentioning what wars are doing, common knowledge. What I'm saying is certain somebodies ruling the earth (David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger themselves are two of the many who spoke about elites like them dominating the Globe, so am not this crazy conspirators, this is a centuries-old proven reality). "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."- David Rockefeller

This year, masses of bird, fish, animal death have mysteriously happened, the birds abruptly and massively dropping from the sky, that the authorities couldn't offer any real, believable explanation for. It's obvious some 'tests' are being made, and now, with this earthquake-tsunami nuclear tragedy, the human themselves are dropping like flies. And we're being fed with apocaliptic views precisely to turn against the one Above, so we start blaming Him for most of the world terrors. Again, I'll say, there have been natural disasters on this earth, by no means do I imply or think that everything is being man-made. But even mainstream music nowadays is feeding us with their apocaliptic scenarios, when the sources causing it inevitably are men and men only. Massive derision. The Japan catastrophe is majorly destructive in effects, not only did thousands die and millions are destroyed, but maladies are breaking out as a result, like it happened with Haiti, people not having drinkable water or safe foods to eat on there, this being extended to other countries as well, not having the necessary medication and human resources to handle this catastrophe, and more are dying as a result. So it's a horrible domino effect that's so hard, if not impossible to put a stop to.......

Again, just wanted to say all this. .. Expecting these comments to be laughed at by some, ridiculed, ignored, but I've stopped caring, just wanted to say all this without a care. It should all be too obvious for everyone, not just a few, that we are those with an enormous capacity for power against these sickening governments controlling us and our future, but we're led to think we're nothing but insignificant fleas that need being sprayed, thus suffocated and killed for the 'betterment' of the planet, and if we wanna survive, we've gotta accept our limited condition as mere nothings, either fleas/or worms. They're a selected few, we're billions.

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Alma, interesting thoughts, will try to reply in more detail, but I'm busy right now, watching this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3a4LXi_qc

Part 1 at about 3:03 might just give us the reason why they are still trying to avoid "something" at Fukushima that in fact is never really named. This is the first time I ever heard this, why do we need nuclear power again?

For the next seven months 500,000 men will wage hand-to-hand combat with an invisible enemy. A ruthless battle that has gone unsung. Which claimed thousands of unnamed and now almost forgotten heroes. Yet - it is thanks to these men that the worst was avoided - a second explosion, ten times more powerful than Hiroshima, which would have wiped out half of Europe. This was kept secret for 20 years by the Soviets and the West alike.

:bugeyed
 
Ok, plugging the leak with concrete didn't work. Now they are trying with papier mache. Yes, that's right. That's paper with glue. God ... help ... us ... all.
 
Ok, plugging the leak with concrete didn't work. Now they are trying with papier mache. Yes, that's right. That's paper with glue. God ... help ... us ... all.

Yeah, I just saw that. Paper, glue, and SAWDUST. :bugeyed (I've got some duct tape. Maybe I should send it to them for when the papier mache fails?)

God. . help. . . us. . . . . all.

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Tokyo (CNN) -- Workers on Sunday tried to plug a crack at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power facility that's been a conduit for highly radioactive water leaking into the Pacific Ocean, officials said.

The workers poured a chemical compound mixed with sawdust and newspaper into the crack, hoping it would expand and stick. But so far it has not done the trick, officials with Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) said.

The effort followed an attempt Saturday to use concrete to plug the the 2-meter-deep (6.5-foot-deep), concrete-lined basin, where authorities had found water gushing directly into the sea via a roughly 20-centimeter (8-inch) crack.
 
Yeah, I just saw that. Paper, glue, and SAWDUST. :bugeyed (I've got some duct tape. Maybe I should send it to them for when the papier mache fails?)

Not a bad idea, what they really need now is MacGyver. It's so creepy how they can build those things but have no idea how to control them in case of an accident.

The workers poured a chemical compound mixed with sawdust and newspaper into the crack, hoping it would expand and stick.

That made me laugh out loud - not because the situation is funny, but because what they and the media are trying to tell us is. Calling simple glue a "chemical compound" just to make it sound technically advanced doesn't mean it's not the same stuff I played with in kindergarten.
 
They "need to establish a long-term policy?" They don't HAVE one????? This is completely outrageous! I'm not understanding why an international team can't go in there, and do what the Japanese obviously cannot?!!!!
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/04/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=T2

Tokyo (CNN) -- The dumping of tons of radioactive water from a waste treatment facility at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility into the ocean has started, Tokyo Electric Power Company officials said Monday. The additional dumping of water from reactors Nos. 5 and 6 will begin within hours, they said.

In all, about 11,500 tons of radioactive water that has collected at the nuclear facility will be dumped into the Pacific Ocean, officials said Monday, as workers also work to deal with a crack that has been a conduit for contamination.

The radiation levels were highest in the water from reactor No. 6, the officials said.

These are the latest, but hardly the only challenges facing workers at the embattled power plant and its six reactors, which have been in constant crisis since last month's ruinous earthquake and tsunami.

Officials with the Tokyo Electric, which runs the plant, proposed Monday afternoon releasing excess water that has pooled in and around the Nos. 3, 4, 5 and 6 reactors into the sea. But most of the dumped water -- 10,000 tons -- will come from the plant's central waste treatment facility, which will then be used to store highly radioactive water from the No. 2 unit, an official with the power company said.

Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano called the dumping "unavoidable," even though this liquid was most likely contaminated in the process of trying to cool nuclear fuel rods.

The build-up of water could cause problems around the nuclear facility, which is 240 kilometers (150 miles) north of Tokyo, Edano said Monday.

Authorities have made a priority of dealing with water from the No. 2 unit, some of which has been gushing into the sea through a crack in a concrete shaft.

"The radioactivity level is very high near the No. 2 reactor, and we know this. We have to stop the leak as early as possible to prevent this from going into the sea," said Edano. "The radioactivity level is much less in the water from the Nos. 3 and 4 units."

"For the safety of the (No. 2) reactor, we have no choice," he added.

Neither attempt to fill the 20-centimeter (8-inch) crack outside the No. 2 reactor's turbine building -- on Saturday by pouring in concrete, then Sunday by using a chemical compound mixed with sawdust and newspaper -- was successful.

As they mull other ways to cut off the leak at its source, workers will install a silt fence along a damaged sea wall surrounding the plant, Nishiyama said. The aim of this screening, usually used to halt erosion at construction sites, is to prohibit the spread of radioactive particles into the sea.

Workers also have injected a dye tracer into the water to allow them to track the dispersal of such particles, the spokesman added.

Addressing the issue quickly is critical because officials believe it is a source of alarmingly high radiation levels in seawater near the plant, as well as in nearby groundwater.

Complicating the situation is the fact that, in some cases, authorities don't even know how much radiation is getting out.

After some high-profile errors, little new information on water, ground and air radiation has been released since Thursday. One reason is that the dosimeters being used don't go above 1,000 millisieverts per hour, said Junichi Matsumoto, an executive with Tokyo Electric.

Authorities know the water in the cracked concrete shaft is emitting at least that much radiation -- which equates, at a minimum, to more than 330 times the dose an average resident of an industrialized country naturally receives in a year.

Plugging the external leak is job one, in order to prevent the outflow of radiation into the Pacific. But it may not be the most difficult, or important, task ahead.

Authorities still have to figure out how the tainted water got into the concrete shaft in the first place. The water had to come from somewhere, potentially traveling across melted-down nuclear fuel in the reactor's core before somehow reaching the outside.

"We were assuming and hoping (that water) would stay in the containment vessel as vapor after being cooled," Nishiyama, the nuclear safety official, said Sunday. "However, it may have flowed into the building, and then the trench."

Determining why and how that happened -- and what to do about it -- may be "exceptionally challenging," said physicist James Acton, with the Washington-based Carnegie Endowment think tank. Officials may have to inspect a complex array of pipes inside the dangerous radioactive environment inside the containment buildings.

The state of the Nos. 5 and 6 units is another new problem. Water in their turbine buildings' basements threatens the power supply for the system used to cool nuclear material in these units spent fuel pools, said Edano. This makes it imperative to pump out that water, which will end up into the sea like that from around the Nos. 3 and 4 units.

"Though those reactors are stable at the moment, the growing water level in the turbine houses may disturb their stability," said Edano.

The effort to keep the Nos. 1, 2 and 3 reactor cores and spent fuel pools cool took a step forward Sunday, when the electricity source powering those three units' cooling systems was switched from a temporary diesel generator to a more permanent, external power supply, according to the International Atomic Energy Agency's website.

Authorities hope this step, as well as preventing damage to the Nos. 5 and 6 units' power supply, will help to minimize the prospect of any more radiation that might contaminate tap water or food.
Farmers have pushed for lower standards on radiation in food, calling them unnecessarily stringent. On Monday, Edano said these limits would not change, even as he outlined a process in which sales restrictions on certain crops, in certain areas, would be lifted if they test safe three times in a row.

In the long run, utility and government officials want to make sure the nuclear fuel, and the potentially cancerous materials it can release, never poses a threat again.

One option being considered, a Tokyo Electric spokesman said Monday, is to wrap some or all of the reactors' containment buildings in massive amounts of sheeting. But for now, the aim is to make sure that the nuclear fuel rods do not overheat -- and release more radiation into the air, water and ground.
"Finally, we (need to) establish a long-term policy to cool the reactors," said Nishiyama, while acknowledging that much work needs to be done in the meantime.
 
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They "need to establish a long-term policy?" They don't HAVE one????? This is completely outrageous! I'm not understanding why an international team can't go in there, and do what the Japanese obviously cannot?!!!!
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They don't have one. They didn't have an emergency plan either. Their disaster plan consisted of one strecher, one sattelite phone and 50 protective suits. For real. http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2011...ane-disaster-plan-at-fukushima-nuclear-plant/
But IMO the key word here is long-term - a clue that this won't be resolved anytime soon.
To be fair, I don't think anyone in the world has a plan for the current situation, the "plan" was that this can not happen...

The state of the Nos. 5 and 6 units is another new problem. Water in their turbine buildings' basements threatens the power supply for the system used to cool nuclear material in these units spent fuel pools, said Edano. This makes it imperative to pump out that water, which will end up into the sea like that from around the Nos. 3 and 4 units.

This is just utterly ridiculous, they have been "planning" to remove that water all of last week, and still it's not done?
This is really a catch 22 situation at the moment, if you don't cool them they might blow up but if you cool them you're poisoning the water. (Not sure if it was posted here, but they've already detected high radiation in the groundwater 15 meters below the plant ...)

The MSM has totally dropped the "story", so here are some new links:
http://enenews.com/
http://www.zerohedge.com
 
About international help : an Areva team arrived in Japan 4 days ago.

The situation is now impossible to deal with in a "clean" way: basically they need to restore electricity to be able to use a cooling system, but they can't because of the leaks, and radioactive water everywhere in he reactors.

The IRSN has just confirmed that caesium was present in the ocean contamination, they don't know yet about plutonium. This means that the contaminated areas in the ocean will be contaminated for at least 30 years.

in french : http://www.irsn.fr/FR/Actualites_pr...a_impact-rejets-radioactifs-milieu-marin.aspx
They are talking about the coast off Japan, but it's still not clear where the streams will take the radioactivity, if it might affect other areas of the ocean.
 
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They don't have one. They didn't have an emergency plan either.

No, they don't. See what I posted about Germany a couple of days ago. They are very aware of the dangers, but also know that once it's out of control, it's out of control and you can do very little. You can only try to avoid things getting even worse. But nobody knows how. It's Russian roulette.

See what I also posted a couple of days ago about Tschernobyl and how there was danger of a second explosion that would have wiped out half of Europe. Which was kept secret for 20 years. They just got lucky that that didn't happen. If one reactor can wipe out half a continent, then having more than 400 nuclear power plants worldwide is OVERKILL. Sooner or later it WILL happen. We just were lucky so far. It's insane. But as long as they make about 1 million Euros per day from an average nuclear power plant and don't have to pay for nuclear waste, accidents like in Fukushima or insurance, they don't care. Something has to happen, and soon. I don't want to see continents wiped out by nuclear power plants. I don't want to see another Fukushima ever again.

The long term plan ... it was already said that the crisis will last months or even years (years, trust me, it's years). Add to that that experts agree that it's necessary to store nuclear waste (and that's what Fukushima is now) 10 times as long as the half life of the nuclear waste. With plutonium that's at least 240,000 years. So yeah, even years is an understatement.

In Tschernobyl, which is still a ticking time bomb, they need to build another sarcophagus, and it's overdue. But they don't have the money needed for it yet (1.5 billion Euros, THAT'S how cheap nuclear power is). The country is 740 million short and needs international help. Guess the nuclear power companies won't have to pay for that either.

http://www.greenpeace.org/internati...kushima-radiation-monitoring-team-/blog/34077

Expanded Fukushima radiation monitoring team back in the field

Recent reports that Japan's government withheld information about radiation risks outside the evacuation zone add to the urgency our field team faces to supply accurate, independent information to local communities.

More at link.

About HAARP, let me just say quickly, it doesn't surprise me that a lot of people don't trust what they are being told. With all the lies that we have heard in the last weeks (and of course it's not the first time either), that just has to happen. Who knows what HAARP actually is and what they are doing there. In 1998 there was a hearing at the European Parliament with the author Nick Begich about HAARP. Haven't looked into it and don't know what the conclusion was.
 
Why they are not using robots to do the work, where humans cannot?!?!? In Tchernobyl they use robots, why not in Japan? Why they are saving robots for? This is getting beyond ridiculous. Human lives are in questions, now the marine world is infected. And for what? I apologize for ranting, but I wouldn't expect this from Japan. The country is well known for technology achievements, and robotic technology. But they are acting, like they are from third countries. They have resources, use it. Why they are saving robots for? All this time wasted.
 
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