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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)
In addition to the black box, there is a flash of green screen in ITC and the music is not switched on at the beginning of WYBT.
As for the album, the questionable tracks aside, there are numerous printing errors in the booklet.
Furthermore, we have the Paul Anka credit fiasco, streaming the wrong mix, getting the name of Hollywood Tonight wrong on youtube.
If I made so many mistakes at my job now, I'd have been fired long time ago.
I don't know why fans are still happy with all these Sony releases. Have we found so many discrepancies in Michael's works that he created in his career?
At least, we should let Sony know we noticed all these mistakes and they need to be more careful.
In addition to the black box, there is a flash of green screen in ITC and the music is not switched on at the beginning of WYBT.
As for the album, the questionable tracks aside, there are numerous printing errors in the booklet.
Furthermore, we have the Paul Anka credit fiasco, streaming the wrong mix, getting the name of Hollywood Tonight wrong on youtube.
If I made so many mistakes at my job now, I'd have been fired long time ago.
I don't know why fans are still happy with all these Sony releases. Have we found so many discrepancies in Michael's works that he created in his career?
At least, we should let Sony know we noticed all these mistakes and they need to be more careful.
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)
are you trying to fake Michael's dah's and chaah's?
Duhhh duh duh duh duhhhh.... duh duh duh...duh duh duh duhduhduhhhhhhh..
are you trying to fake Michael's dah's and chaah's?
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I realized that there are rumors All I Need did not make the cut because Sony thought it sounded fake, and maybe the same with Stay. Neither of these tracks have ad-libs pasted into them. All the Cascio tracks on the album have ad-libs...
I realized that there are rumors All I Need did not make the cut because Sony thought it sounded fake, and maybe the same with Stay. Neither of these tracks have ad-libs pasted into them. All the Cascio tracks on the album have ad-libs...
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Could anyone please remind me of the source that said Sony paid the Cascio's $5 million two days after Michael died?
This is just difficult for me to understand...
Okay, so the Cascio's were close with Jason Malachi obviously. Obviously they were tight if this is the case and they faked tracks together. Or they didn't work together AT ALL and this was done in a professional studio at Sony, but they sound like crap and needed lots of processing.
So that means Jason Malachi truly wasn't far from Michael Jackson, especially if Jackson was visiting the Cascio's from at least 2007-2009! This is something Eddie definitely would have mentioned to Michael, no? Or was he secretly plotting this back in 2007?
Michael turns to Eddie while they're eating lunch, "So, Eddie... What have you been up to this year?"
A smile appears on Eddie's face. "Well, uh, erm, I've been working with a couple artists, much like yourself, on an album. Top secret."
Michael chews his food and smiles back at Eddie, "Oh! Wonderful!"
Eddie's grin gets wider(that's how evil he is), "Yes, there's even a song about you on the record! We're calling it Breaking News!"
"Ha!" Michael exclaims. "Sounds hip and happening, Cascio. Keep up the good work, Sonny. Hey, look, you might make it in showbiz yet."
Eddie laughs all maniacally. Michael hesitates at first, but then joins in nervously with some giggles.
Could anyone please remind me of the source that said Sony paid the Cascio's $5 million two days after Michael died?
This is just difficult for me to understand...
Okay, so the Cascio's were close with Jason Malachi obviously. Obviously they were tight if this is the case and they faked tracks together. Or they didn't work together AT ALL and this was done in a professional studio at Sony, but they sound like crap and needed lots of processing.
So that means Jason Malachi truly wasn't far from Michael Jackson, especially if Jackson was visiting the Cascio's from at least 2007-2009! This is something Eddie definitely would have mentioned to Michael, no? Or was he secretly plotting this back in 2007?
Michael turns to Eddie while they're eating lunch, "So, Eddie... What have you been up to this year?"
A smile appears on Eddie's face. "Well, uh, erm, I've been working with a couple artists, much like yourself, on an album. Top secret."
Michael chews his food and smiles back at Eddie, "Oh! Wonderful!"
Eddie's grin gets wider(that's how evil he is), "Yes, there's even a song about you on the record! We're calling it Breaking News!"
"Ha!" Michael exclaims. "Sounds hip and happening, Cascio. Keep up the good work, Sonny. Hey, look, you might make it in showbiz yet."
Eddie laughs all maniacally. Michael hesitates at first, but then joins in nervously with some giggles.
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)
Nobody is saying that they faked the tracks with malachi in 2007. In 2007 whatever 'tracks' they had were porte tracks with porte's vocals. What i and others think is possible is that they registered god knows what two days after mj died and then spent over a year working on the tracks that they suddenly revealed to the world via friedman and sold them to sony then for a pretty penny.... Then another few months later riley was called in to 'finish' them.....
Nobody is saying that they faked the tracks with malachi in 2007. In 2007 whatever 'tracks' they had were porte tracks with porte's vocals. What i and others think is possible is that they registered god knows what two days after mj died and then spent over a year working on the tracks that they suddenly revealed to the world via friedman and sold them to sony then for a pretty penny.... Then another few months later riley was called in to 'finish' them.....
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)
What about Jason's old manager or producer or whoever who said Jason recorded Breaking News in 2007? Or did he claim they recorded the vocals in 2009? I can't remember exactly, he uploaded a youtube video.
What about Jason's old manager or producer or whoever who said Jason recorded Breaking News in 2007? Or did he claim they recorded the vocals in 2009? I can't remember exactly, he uploaded a youtube video.
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)
Today I've been wondering what could make me feel 100% sure that this is MJ singing cascio tracks. Now I can only believe what I hear, but can't be sure beacuse sony didn't give me any proof. So, when one day I will hear tracks from will.i.am session( or another producer) and it will be the same voice like it is on the cascio tracks, I will be 100% sure that these tracks are not fakes.
Or, if these tracks from cascio are fakes, I am waiting for MJ children to talk about it when they will be adult. Now they are under Jacksons control, and they are still children. When they will be adult and independent - they can tell us what happened at cascio house, where they were living in 2007.
Today I've been wondering what could make me feel 100% sure that this is MJ singing cascio tracks. Now I can only believe what I hear, but can't be sure beacuse sony didn't give me any proof. So, when one day I will hear tracks from will.i.am session( or another producer) and it will be the same voice like it is on the cascio tracks, I will be 100% sure that these tracks are not fakes.
Or, if these tracks from cascio are fakes, I am waiting for MJ children to talk about it when they will be adult. Now they are under Jacksons control, and they are still children. When they will be adult and independent - they can tell us what happened at cascio house, where they were living in 2007.
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)
Kurtis never claimed that breaking news was recorded in 2007... He compared breakingnews acapella to another acapella vocal of jason that he had. He said he knew jason's voice,had been his manager for ten years and in his opinion the voice on breaking news was malachi's pitched up....
Kurtis never claimed that breaking news was recorded in 2007... He compared breakingnews acapella to another acapella vocal of jason that he had. He said he knew jason's voice,had been his manager for ten years and in his opinion the voice on breaking news was malachi's pitched up....
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Jason has been on a few MJ fan forums for a long time, under names and was found out. He turned around 2007 that he was working for Michael.
Jason has been on a few MJ fan forums for a long time, under names and was found out. He turned around 2007 that he was working for Michael.
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I don't understand why we have to wait for the tracks from the will.i.am session to confirm what we hear now. There is a significant difference in Michael's vocals in the Cascio tracks. Is the difference attributed to over-processing or impersonating? We all are trying to find out.
You can't find another existing Michael Jackson demo that we have heard before that sounds like the Cascio tracks. And, you are hoping the will.i.am tracks will sound like the Cascio tracks? Seriously, even if you believe the Cascio tracks are authentic, do you want the will.i.am tracks sound like the Cascio tracks? Or, do you want them to sound like the gorgerous Michael Jackson tracks that we fell so much in love with?
I listened to Fall Again and Beautiful Girl just two nights ago. How gorgeous those demos are! Really, the voice is impeccable. Even though I haven't listened to those songs for quite a long time, I don't have a foreign feeling when I listen to them. But, when I listen to Monster, the first reaction I have is "who is singing?"
I don't understand why we have to wait for the tracks from the will.i.am session to confirm what we hear now. There is a significant difference in Michael's vocals in the Cascio tracks. Is the difference attributed to over-processing or impersonating? We all are trying to find out.
You can't find another existing Michael Jackson demo that we have heard before that sounds like the Cascio tracks. And, you are hoping the will.i.am tracks will sound like the Cascio tracks? Seriously, even if you believe the Cascio tracks are authentic, do you want the will.i.am tracks sound like the Cascio tracks? Or, do you want them to sound like the gorgerous Michael Jackson tracks that we fell so much in love with?
I listened to Fall Again and Beautiful Girl just two nights ago. How gorgeous those demos are! Really, the voice is impeccable. Even though I haven't listened to those songs for quite a long time, I don't have a foreign feeling when I listen to them. But, when I listen to Monster, the first reaction I have is "who is singing?"
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Well, there's got to be a reason for that, don't you think? After ALL these months, after ALL the excuses we've heard....If you're not 100%, then something is UP.... it's not him singing.....Funnily enough, a lot of people don't want to admit that it could be a possibility that it's not him....People just don't want to see the obvious pink elephant in the room...
Well, there's got to be a reason for that, don't you think? After ALL these months, after ALL the excuses we've heard....If you're not 100%, then something is UP.... it's not him singing.....Funnily enough, a lot of people don't want to admit that it could be a possibility that it's not him....People just don't want to see the obvious pink elephant in the room...
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I feel for you
Oh dear, here we go again.
I feel for you
Oh dear, here we go again.
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)
Though lol
Though lol
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Last century.
Last century.
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We can't find any recordings from Michael Jackson that sounds like the vocals on the Cascio tracks.
Granted, we haven't heard all of the recordings Michael had ever done. Still, we've heard enough to know the man's voice and form an opinion. From the rough Billie Jean home demo, to Michael singing in a courtroom, to Michael singing to Oprah, to Michael singing Smile spontaneously, to Michael singing in the Dangerous and TII rehearsals to countless live performances.
We actually have recordings with Michael's voice processed a lot. Listen to Threatened and You Rock My World. You'll know what I'm talking about. Still, unmistakenly Michael Jackson.
Michael had one of the most distinctive voice ever known to mankind. It's powerful as volcanoes, but also as peaceful as a stream. It's gritty, it's soothing, it's verstile.
The Cascio tracks are none of the above. Whatever they do, they manage to stripe the tonal characteristic of such gorgerous voice.
We can't find any recordings from Michael Jackson that sounds like the vocals on the Cascio tracks.
Granted, we haven't heard all of the recordings Michael had ever done. Still, we've heard enough to know the man's voice and form an opinion. From the rough Billie Jean home demo, to Michael singing in a courtroom, to Michael singing to Oprah, to Michael singing Smile spontaneously, to Michael singing in the Dangerous and TII rehearsals to countless live performances.
We actually have recordings with Michael's voice processed a lot. Listen to Threatened and You Rock My World. You'll know what I'm talking about. Still, unmistakenly Michael Jackson.
Michael had one of the most distinctive voice ever known to mankind. It's powerful as volcanoes, but also as peaceful as a stream. It's gritty, it's soothing, it's verstile.
The Cascio tracks are none of the above. Whatever they do, they manage to stripe the tonal characteristic of such gorgerous voice.
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)
silly bumper...
silly bumper...
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^^^:clapping:
it's as simple as that
^^^:clapping:
it's as simple as that
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)
Love is magical...I LOVE the way you describe his voice....'powerful as volcanoes...peaceful as a stream...'....:wub: There are so many ways to describe it as it's so unique and versatile.....When I listen to the Cascio tracks, I'm at a loss on how to describe that voice....Other than some nasty things I won't say...
Love is magical...I LOVE the way you describe his voice....'powerful as volcanoes...peaceful as a stream...'....:wub: There are so many ways to describe it as it's so unique and versatile.....When I listen to the Cascio tracks, I'm at a loss on how to describe that voice....Other than some nasty things I won't say...
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No, that will be because of the Melodyne.
And the poor quality of the Cascio studio.
And the shower.
And Teddy Riley.
And the telephone vocals.
And he was ill at the time.
And because he was recording the songs as demos for NSYNC.
And because he wasn't really trying.
And because he was just messing around.
And because he wasn't sleeping.
But it's definitely him.
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And because
-he didn't warm up his vocals
-he used a pvc pipe
-he tried to sound not like him
-he tested new way of expression
And because
-he didn't warm up his vocals
-he used a pvc pipe
-he tried to sound not like him
-he tested new way of expression
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)
I know that MJ voice in cascio tracks is different than it used to be. But I am sure that MJ was able to sing like this. So when I will hear, in for exemple will.i.am session, the same colour of voice, it will be clear to me that MJ just want to try this kind of singing.
If there is no more unreleased songs, except cascio tracks, with vocal like in Monster, Stay etc, it will be difficult to still think that these tracks are not fake.
I know that MJ voice in cascio tracks is different than it used to be. But I am sure that MJ was able to sing like this. So when I will hear, in for exemple will.i.am session, the same colour of voice, it will be clear to me that MJ just want to try this kind of singing.
If there is no more unreleased songs, except cascio tracks, with vocal like in Monster, Stay etc, it will be difficult to still think that these tracks are not fake.