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Lucky the one that live there. I'd love to be in that crowd too but last question the reporter asked was stupid imo. Why MJ fans are so emotional with this trail? :wtf2:

THE REAL MICHAEL FANS are the best without a doubt! :clapping:
 
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Dumb reporters.thats why theres rule 101 dont talk to the feckers.years outside hotels etc teaches u that. bleepers everywhere
 
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You know who irritates me, the psychologists who they pay to talk. The one who said we see Michael as our savior and Murray as satan. These people have no clue about what they are talking about, and maybe why so many people in therapy have not experienced any relief or answers to how they could help themselves.

I do not know about you guys, but Micheal was never my savior. He represents a kind, loving person, who many purposefully did not understand, and as a consequence victimized and scorned him. All that was negative they attached to Michael. These are the things that cause fans to be emotional. This kind, down-to-earth person was ridiculed and maligned for actions he did not commit. This psychologist is a fool and need to read up on the fan community before making such stupid statements. If I had her address, I would tell her how stupid she is.
 
Petrarose;3478877 said:
You know who irritates me, the psychologists who they pay to talk. The one who said we see Michael as our savior and Murray as satan. These people have no clue about what they are talking about, and maybe why so many people in therapy have not experienced any relief or answers to how they could help themselves.
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This. Like Judge Pastor said: “Yes, in all likelihood there will be talking heads. Frequently talking heads are talking through other body parts".
 
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Petrarose said:
You know who irritates me, the psychologists who they pay to talk. The one who said we see Michael as our savior and Murray as satan. These people have no clue about what they are talking about, and maybe why so many people in therapy have not experienced any relief or answers to how they could help themselves.

I do not know about you guys, but Micheal was never my savior. He represents a kind, loving person, who many purposefully did not understand, and as a consequence victimized and scorned him. All that was negative they attached to Michael. These are the things that cause fans to be emotional. This kind, down-to-earth person was ridiculed and maligned for actions he did not commit. This psychologist is a fool and need to read up on the fan community before making such stupid statements. If I had her address, I would tell her how stupid she is.
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Never trust in a psychologist who works on tv.
These people are paid to talk about something they have no clue about. They're not serious professionals.
 
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This. Like Judge Pastor said: “Yes, in all likelihood there will be talking heads. Frequently talking heads are talking through other body parts".
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Did he really say that? hahahah
 
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Yes the judge said some of the people talking on TV were talking through other body parts, I paraphrase here.

It so good to see the fans out there. It is so wonderful to hear that some of them are not from the US. Michael was loved by fans globally. I hope even more show up on the first day of trial, because I will be there.
 
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that 'psychologist' is so full of nothing
 
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If only MJ Knew how amazing his fans are

on the lower Note: You DUMB Stupid Reporter WTF Was that about OF COURSE The fans are EMOTIONAL Murray is the REASON MICHAEL Is not here!!!!
 
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Mj knew very well dont worry about that
 
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Damn psychologist! She doesn't have the tiniest clue!

I for one can say that Michael very well indeed saved my life!
 
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yes!!!! michael jackson has the best Fans!!!!!! :cheeky:
 
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Michael was never my 'saviour' He was a good and kind man whom we all loved very much who was killed by a doctor. We want justice- nothing strange in that.
 
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Petrarose said:
You know who irritates me, the psychologists who they pay to talk. The one who said we see Michael as our savior and Murray as satan. These people have no clue about what they are talking about, and maybe why so many people in therapy have not experienced any relief or answers to how they could help themselves.

I do not know about you guys, but Micheal was never my savior. He represents a kind, loving person, who many purposefully did not understand, and as a consequence victimized and scorned him. All that was negative they attached to Michael. These are the things that cause fans to be emotional. This kind, down-to-earth person was ridiculed and maligned for actions he did not commit. This psychologist is a fool and need to read up on the fan community before making such stupid statements. If I had her address, I would tell her how stupid she is.
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I learned a long time ago never to listen to any of these 'know it all doctors' on tv. The media will once again make MJ fans look like raving lunatics, its what they consider 'good tv.'

CarleyMJ said:
If only MJ Knew how amazing his fans are

on the lower Note: You DUMB Stupid Reporter WTF Was that about OF COURSE The fans are EMOTIONAL Murray is the REASON MICHAEL Is not here!!!!
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I have no doubt Michael knew how much we loved him.

BTW.....after the 2005 trial, I think fans should be very cautious as to what they say to members of the media.
 
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Im an atheist..... mj was just the sweetest person i was blessed to meet and if been upset cause someone killed him and took him away from those who loved him makes me strange then there millions of strange ppl out there. shame it wasnt me she asked.she would have been picking herself off the floor from a left hook.given with L.o.v.e of course
 
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Some of them really don't seem to understand how loved Michael was and still is.
 
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I'm an athiest as well and I felt pissed when that idiotic psychologist used the word "saviour" in the religious sense becuase it's not the case of many of us.
I had a difficult childhood, most of the times children with special needs aren't as respected as they should. The other children were so bastard with me when I was in elementary and middle school, they didn't want to paly with me during recess, they mocked the way I walked with my walker, they called it the "batmovile" or they used to say teachers would give me good grades because they felt petty for my condition. For obvious reasons my self esteme was so low and I had siucidal thoughts many times.
Despite my tribulations, knowing Michael had an even harder childhood than mine, made most of his dreams come true, to be able to carry on was and still is very inspirational to me and also every time I was feeling sad or depressed he was able to make me happy and making me forget for a while those feelings.In that sense, he saved my life, he really did and I always be grateful for it.
 
I really would like to ask those so-called psychologists if they ever have loved someone with all their heart. If so I then would like them to explain why they have loved someone that much, why this special person has meant that much to them … this would be an interesting discussion … :threaten:
 
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I don't think MJ's fans see him as saviour, but I see a lot of fanaticism involving MJ. There's a line that separates being a fan and being fanatic. I consider myself a fan, only. I like his music, he was an extraordinary and complete artist. Also, humanitarian. I didn't care about his personal life, who he slept with, etc, etc.

About Conrad Murray, I don't think he's the monster that many fans want to see burning in hell. I just see him as a negligent doctor that contributed to MJ's death and as such he deserves to pay for his mistake.
 
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Snow White, your story touched me.

The reporters really know why Michael is loved. They simply want to attribute something unusual to it to fit into that paradigm of Michael that they created. If Michael is strange, to keep the idea going, his fans, family, friends, and children have to be strange too. This is their way of creating ideas so they could keep selling papers and label individuals accordingly. They know millions of humans listen to the TV and read the papers and actually believe what they see/read. Even professionals believe the media too.

If someone you trust and admire is being accused wrongly, you see them being mistreated by the police and media, and you have facts to show their innocence, you are going to demonstrate some emotion. If a doctor tells you he gave someone you trust and admire a cocktail of drugs within a short space of time, left the person unattended and came back and found him dead, you are going to feel some emotion. Therefore, there is nothing strange, weird, or singular about people being emotional under these circumstances. Fans need to know how to answer these reporters, or if not, say no comment.

Kissy there are extremes in most things. Some people hate a thing, e.g., snakes, dirt, another, ironing, races, and you will find some will hate it with a passion. Some people love something, e.g., money, food, candy, another, and you will find some who will love it with a passion.

This does not mean all the people who love or hate the thing are fanatics. Likewise, not all the people who admire Michael are fanatics. Reporters like to imply this or blatantly say it, to attach something negative about Michael's fans in general. I understand what you mean in your comment, but really, the reporter is not referring to a few fans but to Michael fans in general, and we have to get that distinction.
 
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In a sad sense Michael is sorta where decent medical professionals separate themselves from 'hot air' into those who honor their profession. You got Murray, Pinsky, Walsh- and every other folks diagnosing from some weird distance.

And as Michael would have said, that's in your mind. The commentary's indicative of HER mindset, not mine. I am no atheist- but I do not believe in Satan to begin with... would be nice though on occasion if my world could be so black and white as that soundbite.

Michael is very much loved- that very truth has been belittled and ridiculed for ages. Shine back more love, love in that degree is nothing to be ashamed off.

And- you need to be aware of how 'general' these soundbites of the interviewed folks are. Wonder why? So you can copy and paste them into any slant. At least Ms Wendy inspired me after I was done laughing. Since Michael isn't available for further diagnosis, I decided to diagnose myself to save Ms Wendy Walsh the trouble.


Peter Pan By Proxy
I've got a pretty bad case of Peter Pan by proxy
'Cause I love Tim Burton, charity and Pepsi.
I've got a pretty bad case of Peter Pan by proxy
'Cause for 20 years I have loved Michael Jackson.
Noted constant in my chart
Anciently practiced in challenging your heart.

Dr. Wendy says that Satan killed my Savior-
Thank you thank you for diagnosing me
Please tell me how to mail my co-payment to thee
I bow my head with nothing left to sing:

I've got a pretty bad case of Peter Pan by proxy
'Cause I love Tim Burton, charity and Pepsi.
I've got a pretty bad case of Peter Pan by proxy
'Cause for 20 years I have loved Michael Jackson.
Noted constant in my chart
Anciently practiced in challenging your heart.

Savior, Savior, hear me calling
On my knees in front him I'm falling
Offering my brain ritually
Michael as always accept so graciously.

Savior, Savior did you hear me calling???
Suddenly my visions of his gold pants are stalling
With him materializing next to me
He grins and wags his finger patiently.
And he says:

Disciple, Disciple, oh get up, Disciple!
Disciple, Disciple, oh get up, my Disciple!
Dry your tears and watch the whole cycle
Of a bunch of Nancies bullying me, the dead Michael.

And so we both sing:
Savior, Savior, hear us calling
On our knees both we are falling
Offering one another some sanity
A case of servitude and community.

I've got a pretty bad case of Peter Pan by proxy
'Cause I love Tim Burton, charity and Pepsi.
I've got a pretty bad case of Peter Pan by proxy
'Cause for 20 years I have loved Michael Jackson.
Noted constant in my chart
Anciently practiced in challenging your heart.
-©2011 Irina Hale, 9/10/2011; All Rights Reserved
 
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Yes, I know and for this reason the best way is to love and admire someone in a healthy way. It's so much more enjoyable when when you love someone without crossing the line. It's nice to read a rubbish article about an artist you love and shrug it off, without letting it poisoning your soul.

When you get involved too much with someone's else life, you suffer, you feel emotionaly drained. There's no need to bring stress into your life when the person is nothing related to you. You can love them, admire them, but not getting too much emotionally involved into their life. When I see fans arguing over Lisa Marie Presley, I go WTF! It's crazy. She was married to MJ and their marriage only mattered to them. It's how things sometimes go. Let MJ and any other artist bring only happiness into your life.




Petrarose said:
Snow White, your story touched me.

Kissy there are extremes in most things. Some people hate a thing, e.g., snakes, dirt, another, ironing, races, and you will find some will hate it with a passion. Some people love something, e.g., money, food, candy, another, and you will find some who will love it with a passion.

This does not mean all the people who love or hate the thing are fanatics. Likewise, not all the people who admire Michael are fanatics. Reporters like to imply this or blatantly say it, to attach something negative about Michael's fans in general. I understand what you mean in your comment, but really, the reporter is not referring to a few fans but to Michael fans in general, and we have to get that distinction.
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Pace I liked that. Thanks for posting.
 
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Snow White luvs Peter Pan said:
I'm an athiest as well and I felt pissed when that idiotic psychologist used the word "saviour" in the religious sense becuase it's not the case of many of us.
I had a difficult childhood, most of the times children with special needs aren't as respected as they should. The other children were so bastard with me when I was in elementary and middle school, they didn't want to paly with me during recess, they mocked the way I walked with my walker, they called it the "batmovile" or they used to say teachers would give me good grades because they felt petty for my condition. For obvious reasons my self esteme was so low and I had siucidal thoughts many times.
Despite my tribulations, knowing Michael had an even harder childhood than mine, made most of his dreams come true, to be able to carry on was and still is very inspirational to me and also every time I was feeling sad or depressed he was able to make me happy and making me forget for a while those feelings.In that sense, he saved my life, he really did and I always be grateful for it.
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Im so sorry to hear bout all the u went through in your childhood :hug: and i too was bullied & teased in my childhood. Michael's music helped me to realise that i was special in my own way and not to worry bout what the bullies would say to me and also if it wasnt for him i wouldve have all u guys in my life. Do i think of michael as "god"? , no i dont but i am grateful for the joy & happiness his music gave to me
 
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8710, sorry to hear you were bullied too. I am glad you rose above it. This can be so traumatic to the psyche, if there is no supporting love from family or significant peers.
 
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Petrarose said:
8710, sorry to hear you were bullied too. I am glad you rose above it. This can be so traumatic to the psyche, if there is no supporting love from family or significant peers.
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Thank you and yes ur right it can be traumatic going through that. I did have family supporting me but as for my love for mj some family members werent very happy bout it.
 
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