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thats ok then lol@ elusive So was I!
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Chernoff objected at 2 points to Walgren’s use of the term “victim” in his questioning.“There is no proof of a victim’” Chernoff complained.
Liesrunsprints Karen
The judge ordered the prosecutor to use the phrase “alleged victim.”...one thing I am positive about IMO is MJ was a victim..and still is!
Chernoff objected at 2 points to Walgren’s use of the term “victim” in his questioning.“There is no proof of a victim’” Chernoff complained.
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The judge ordered the prosecutor to use the phrase “alleged victim.”...one thing I am positive about IMO is MJ was a victim..and still is!
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what the hell is the matter with these people of course Michael was THE VICTIM...Michael is NOT the one on trial here,,,WHY can they NOT understand this. Michael DID NOT commit suicide....He was MURDERED,,,WHY can they NOT see that...uhggg
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so wheres michael then you arsehole. gone on a extended shopping trip!
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I agree. Michael lost his life, of course, he's a victim. I don't understand how they can argue that.
I guess, it's because the defense will try to prove that Michael killed himself, and if he took his life willingly, he is not a victim...
But let them try that theory.........we'll see how it'll go.
I agree. Michael lost his life, of course, he's a victim. I don't understand how they can argue that.
I guess, it's because the defense will try to prove that Michael killed himself, and if he took his life willingly, he is not a victim...
But let them try that theory.........we'll see how it'll go.
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that's an important question and the question at hand for involuntary manslaughter.
for example in US driver's handbook says that even though people aren't supposed to wander on to roads, if they do you need to stop. Just because a pedestrian walks on to street it doesn't make it okay that the driver hits them. This is the same logic. Regardless of Michael "begging" for propofol, Murray shouldn't have been giving it to him in a manner that would hurt him.
that's an important question and the question at hand for involuntary manslaughter.
for example in US driver's handbook says that even though people aren't supposed to wander on to roads, if they do you need to stop. Just because a pedestrian walks on to street it doesn't make it okay that the driver hits them. This is the same logic. Regardless of Michael "begging" for propofol, Murray shouldn't have been giving it to him in a manner that would hurt him.
Michael Jackson death: Lawyer Connie Rice excused as possible juror
September 23, 2011 | 1:39 pm
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Prominent civil-rights attorney Connie Rice will not be a juror in the trial of Michael Jackson’s personal physician.
Prosecutors used one of 10 peremptory challenges to excuse Rice, a longtime critic of the Los Angeles Police Department, the agency that investigated and arrested Dr. Conrad Murray.
Attorneys are not required to explain why they dismiss certain potential jurors.
Deputy Dist. Atty. David Walgren had questioned Rice about whether she could abide by jurors’ “limited role” and accept that there may be unanswered questions in a case. Rice said she could.
“Extraneous information or other considerations or possibilities, they don’t play any role after you have the evidence,” she said.
Earlier Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor had noted her role as “an advocate” in the justice system and asked if she could be impartial. She answered yes.
A panel of 12 is to be finalized Friday afternoon. Attorneys used their time questioning jurors as an opportunity to preview their case.
Murray, 58, stands accused of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s 2009 overdose on the surgical anesthetic propofol. He has pleaded not guilty.
The defense is expected to argue that Jackson was a desperate addict who begged Murray for propofol and gave himself the fatal dose.
Lead defense attorney Ed Chernoff suggested negative information about Jackson may emerge during the trial. He asked panelists what they knew about the singer’s life and personality.
“I think of him as a child, his dancing, his music,” one woman queried replied.
Was he so childlike he was incapable of making decision, the attorney pressed. No, the woman answered.
Turning to the entire group, Chernoff asked if they believed “Michael Jackson should be held to a different standard of responsibility?” No hands were raised.
Walgren focused his questions on whether panelists could convict Murray if they found Jackson had contributed to his own death.
The prosecutor asked would-be jurors to consider a hypothetical situation where a reckless driver runs a red light and kills a pedestrian who was “also not being safe as he could be and steps out in front of a car.”
“You could say the driver is not 100% responsible, but he did play a substantial role,” Walgren said, echoing the wording of the involuntary manslaughter charge.
“Could you find him guilty?” he asked juror after juror.
All said they could, but one man asked if the pedestrian had used a crosswalk. Prosecutors later dismissed that juror.
Chernoff objected at two points to Walgren’s use of the term “victim” in his questioning.
“There is no proof of a ‘victim,’” Chernoff complained.
The judge ordered the prosecutor to use the phrase “alleged victim.”
If convicted, Murray faces a maximum of four years in prison and the likely loss of his medical license.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/conrad-murray-2.html
September 23, 2011 | 1:39 pm
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Prominent civil-rights attorney Connie Rice will not be a juror in the trial of Michael Jackson’s personal physician.
Prosecutors used one of 10 peremptory challenges to excuse Rice, a longtime critic of the Los Angeles Police Department, the agency that investigated and arrested Dr. Conrad Murray.
Attorneys are not required to explain why they dismiss certain potential jurors.
Deputy Dist. Atty. David Walgren had questioned Rice about whether she could abide by jurors’ “limited role” and accept that there may be unanswered questions in a case. Rice said she could.
“Extraneous information or other considerations or possibilities, they don’t play any role after you have the evidence,” she said.
Earlier Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor had noted her role as “an advocate” in the justice system and asked if she could be impartial. She answered yes.
A panel of 12 is to be finalized Friday afternoon. Attorneys used their time questioning jurors as an opportunity to preview their case.
Murray, 58, stands accused of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s 2009 overdose on the surgical anesthetic propofol. He has pleaded not guilty.
The defense is expected to argue that Jackson was a desperate addict who begged Murray for propofol and gave himself the fatal dose.
Lead defense attorney Ed Chernoff suggested negative information about Jackson may emerge during the trial. He asked panelists what they knew about the singer’s life and personality.
“I think of him as a child, his dancing, his music,” one woman queried replied.
Was he so childlike he was incapable of making decision, the attorney pressed. No, the woman answered.
Turning to the entire group, Chernoff asked if they believed “Michael Jackson should be held to a different standard of responsibility?” No hands were raised.
Walgren focused his questions on whether panelists could convict Murray if they found Jackson had contributed to his own death.
The prosecutor asked would-be jurors to consider a hypothetical situation where a reckless driver runs a red light and kills a pedestrian who was “also not being safe as he could be and steps out in front of a car.”
“You could say the driver is not 100% responsible, but he did play a substantial role,” Walgren said, echoing the wording of the involuntary manslaughter charge.
“Could you find him guilty?” he asked juror after juror.
All said they could, but one man asked if the pedestrian had used a crosswalk. Prosecutors later dismissed that juror.
Chernoff objected at two points to Walgren’s use of the term “victim” in his questioning.
“There is no proof of a ‘victim,’” Chernoff complained.
The judge ordered the prosecutor to use the phrase “alleged victim.”
If convicted, Murray faces a maximum of four years in prison and the likely loss of his medical license.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/conrad-murray-2.html
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and this is only the beginning....
Thank you for the updates.
and this is only the beginning....
Thank you for the updates.
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yeah totally agree. its the same here. someone might walk out infront of you in a drunken state but if u were to busy talking or on your phone etc. you are the one at fault.. the only time you arent is if you did nothing wrong at all and they just ran out infront of you from say behind a bus and you couldnt stop.
funny how all those defence questions get reported on but all we get is one question that the pros lawyers asked
yeah totally agree. its the same here. someone might walk out infront of you in a drunken state but if u were to busy talking or on your phone etc. you are the one at fault.. the only time you arent is if you did nothing wrong at all and they just ran out infront of you from say behind a bus and you couldnt stop.
funny how all those defence questions get reported on but all we get is one question that the pros lawyers asked
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justice_4mj JUSTICE 4 MJ
Jurys been sat. 7 men. 5 women.
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PatrickNBCLA Patrick Healy
Jury chosen for #ConradMurray -- 7 men, 5 women, apparently no African Americans...will choose alternates after recess
justice_4mj JUSTICE 4 MJ
Jurys been sat. 7 men. 5 women.
10 secs ago
PatrickNBCLA Patrick Healy
Jury chosen for #ConradMurray -- 7 men, 5 women, apparently no African Americans...will choose alternates after recess
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it begins...:boohoo:
it begins...:boohoo:
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HalEisner Hal Eisner
7 men 5 women #ConradMurray jury selected and sworn in! @myfoxla
PatrickNBCLA Patrick Healy
Jury chosen for #ConradMurray -- 7 men, 5 women, apparently no African Americans...will choose alternates after recess
HalEisner Hal Eisner
7 men 5 women #ConradMurray jury selected and sworn in! @myfoxla
PatrickNBCLA Patrick Healy
Jury chosen for #ConradMurray -- 7 men, 5 women, apparently no African Americans...will choose alternates after recess
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dont like all those men on the jury. yeah i know. we have been here before but id prefer more women
dont like all those men on the jury. yeah i know. we have been here before but id prefer more women
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Yes, I agree - but my point was (when I said it would depend on the circumstances) that it happens sometimes that it was impossible for the driver, drunk or not, to even see the pedestrian - like when a small child is standing between 2 parked cars and suddenly jumps on the street. Maybe I was just thinking too complicated.
Yes, I agree - but my point was (when I said it would depend on the circumstances) that it happens sometimes that it was impossible for the driver, drunk or not, to even see the pedestrian - like when a small child is standing between 2 parked cars and suddenly jumps on the street. Maybe I was just thinking too complicated.
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Walgren presented an analogy to jurors of a drunken driver listening to music and hitting a pedestrian who was also not paying attention as he walked into the street.
That hypothetical appeared to be an attempt to elicit views of whether Murray or Jackson was most at fault. Jurors' responses varied, but some of them said the driver might be guilty if he bore some responsibility for the death.
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/w...son.jury.questioning.likened.to.'speed.dating'
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Walgren presented an analogy to jurors of a drunken driver listening to music and hitting a pedestrian who was also not paying attention as he walked into the street.
That hypothetical appeared to be an attempt to elicit views of whether Murray or Jackson was most at fault. Jurors' responses varied, but some of them said the driver might be guilty if he bore some responsibility for the death.
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/w...son.jury.questioning.likened.to.'speed.dating'
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I wish all of us strength in the next weeks... and let's hope these men and women will bring justice.
I wish all of us strength in the next weeks... and let's hope these men and women will bring justice.
Liesrunsprints Karen
IMO MJ cannot be held responsible for decisions made whilst Murray was dosing him with a medication that impares REASONING SKILLS.
25 minutes ago
Karen
Liesrunsprints Karen
IMO from the minute Murray administered the first dose of a Benzodiazepine......Murray was in complete control.
34 minutes ago
Karen
Liesrunsprints Karen
source: bupa.co.uk/individuals/he…
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Karen
Liesrunsprints Karen
Benzodiazepines can temporarily affect your coordination and REASONING SKILLS...for 24 hours after taking them
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Karen
Liesrunsprints Karen
Murray readily admits administering benzodiazepines the days before MJ died. The following tweets are excepts from a medical FACT sheet.
41 minutes ago
http://twitter.com/#!/Liesrunsprints
IMO MJ cannot be held responsible for decisions made whilst Murray was dosing him with a medication that impares REASONING SKILLS.
25 minutes ago
Karen
Liesrunsprints Karen
IMO from the minute Murray administered the first dose of a Benzodiazepine......Murray was in complete control.
34 minutes ago
Karen
Liesrunsprints Karen
source: bupa.co.uk/individuals/he…
37 minutes ago
Karen
Liesrunsprints Karen
Benzodiazepines can temporarily affect your coordination and REASONING SKILLS...for 24 hours after taking them
38 minutes ago
Karen
Liesrunsprints Karen
Murray readily admits administering benzodiazepines the days before MJ died. The following tweets are excepts from a medical FACT sheet.
41 minutes ago
http://twitter.com/#!/Liesrunsprints
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just like 03-05 there always seems to ppl who have connections to mj in one form or another
just like 03-05 there always seems to ppl who have connections to mj in one form or another
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[h=1]Jury two strikes away in Conrad Murray trial[/h] By Alan Duke, CNN
updated 4:53 PM EST, Fri September 23, 2011
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Los Angeles (CNN) -- Lawyers and prosecutors were each just two peremptory strikes away Friday from choosing the 12 jurors who will hear the involuntary manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson's doctor.
After those jurors are chosen, the lawyers will select six citizens to serve as alternates in the trial, which is expected to last five weeks.
The process is expected to be completed by the end of court Friday afternoon, setting the stage for opening statements Tuesday in the trial of Dr. Conrad Murray.
The trial officially started Friday morning when Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor swore in 84 prospective jurors in a packed courtroom.
That began what Deputy District Attorney David Walgren described as "a courtroom version of speed dating."
Each side was given barely 20 minutes to question the first 27 potential jurors about their ability to decide guilt and innocence without what they already know or believe biasing them.
The face-to-face interaction helped them decide how to use the 10 peremptory challenges allotted to each side, in which they can dismiss prospective jurors without stating a reason.
Walgren used much of his time to gauge the potential jurors' willingness to find someone guilty if they were significantly responsible for a death even though the alleged victim shared some responsibility.
A man who appeared to hesitate when asked if that was fair was the first prospective juror stricken from the jury pool by the prosecution.
One woman said she'd "prefer not to be in a position where I would have to judge," but she assured the judge she could be a fair juror.
"If I have a job to do, then I finish it," she said. The prosecution struck her from the jury.
A prospective male juror said he always turned the channel with news coverage of Jackson's death was on television, so it would be easy for him to be fair since "everything I hear would be for the first time." The prosecution also used a peremptory strike to have him dismissed from the pool.
The only two African-Americans among the first 27 questioned were stricken by the prosecution, including a man who manages a large office of social workers. An older African-American woman was later added to the panel of juror prospects and could survive to be on the jury.
The pool of 84 potential jurors appeared diverse, although only six were African-American. Ten people were quickly dismissed Friday after they told the judge that serving in the five-week trial would be a financial or family hardship.
Prosecutors and defense lawyers mutually agreed in closed-door sessions Wednesday and Thursday on which potential jurors in a pool of 145 were too biased to put their prejudices aside to decide if Murray is criminally responsible for the pop icon's death, according to Murray defense lawyer Michael Flanagan.
"Both sides just want to get a fair jury that hasn't made up their mind and is willing to make a decision based upon the facts," Flanagan said after Thursday's jury selection session.
Lead defense lawyer Ed Chernoff said there were no surprising reasons for striking jurors "for cause," and the pool was filled with people who could be open-minded. "Time ameliorates things," Chernoff said.
Murray, who is charged with involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death, could face up to four years in prison if the jury finds him guilty.
The "for cause" strikes were based mostly on written answers potential jurors gave earlier this month to 113 questions.
Lawyers had a week to study the questionnaire responses, a process they went through once before in April before the trial was delayed for several months.
"One of the things that we learned in the case the last go-around in the jury selection, it's absolutely shocking how many jurors think already they know everything about this case," Chernoff said in an interview last week with Jean Casarez, a reporter with CNN sister network In Session.
Opening statements for the trial, which will be televised, are scheduled for Tuesday. The judge told members of the jury pool he expects their service will be over on or about October 28.
The Los Angeles coroner has ruled that Jackson's death on June 25, 2009, was caused by an overdose of the surgical anesthetic propofol combined with other drugs.
Prosecutors have accused Murray, who served as Jackson's personal and full-time physician at the time, of having a role in the overdose.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/23/justice/california-conrad-murray-jury/index.html
[h=1]Jury two strikes away in Conrad Murray trial[/h] By Alan Duke, CNN
updated 4:53 PM EST, Fri September 23, 2011
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
- A final jury should be seated Friday afternoon
- Friday's voir dire is "a courtroom version of speed dating," the prosecutor says
- Opening statements in Murray's trial are on track for Tuesday
- Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter in Michael Jackson's death
Los Angeles (CNN) -- Lawyers and prosecutors were each just two peremptory strikes away Friday from choosing the 12 jurors who will hear the involuntary manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson's doctor.
After those jurors are chosen, the lawyers will select six citizens to serve as alternates in the trial, which is expected to last five weeks.
The process is expected to be completed by the end of court Friday afternoon, setting the stage for opening statements Tuesday in the trial of Dr. Conrad Murray.
The trial officially started Friday morning when Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor swore in 84 prospective jurors in a packed courtroom.
That began what Deputy District Attorney David Walgren described as "a courtroom version of speed dating."
Each side was given barely 20 minutes to question the first 27 potential jurors about their ability to decide guilt and innocence without what they already know or believe biasing them.
The face-to-face interaction helped them decide how to use the 10 peremptory challenges allotted to each side, in which they can dismiss prospective jurors without stating a reason.
Walgren used much of his time to gauge the potential jurors' willingness to find someone guilty if they were significantly responsible for a death even though the alleged victim shared some responsibility.
A man who appeared to hesitate when asked if that was fair was the first prospective juror stricken from the jury pool by the prosecution.
One woman said she'd "prefer not to be in a position where I would have to judge," but she assured the judge she could be a fair juror.
"If I have a job to do, then I finish it," she said. The prosecution struck her from the jury.
A prospective male juror said he always turned the channel with news coverage of Jackson's death was on television, so it would be easy for him to be fair since "everything I hear would be for the first time." The prosecution also used a peremptory strike to have him dismissed from the pool.
The only two African-Americans among the first 27 questioned were stricken by the prosecution, including a man who manages a large office of social workers. An older African-American woman was later added to the panel of juror prospects and could survive to be on the jury.
The pool of 84 potential jurors appeared diverse, although only six were African-American. Ten people were quickly dismissed Friday after they told the judge that serving in the five-week trial would be a financial or family hardship.
Prosecutors and defense lawyers mutually agreed in closed-door sessions Wednesday and Thursday on which potential jurors in a pool of 145 were too biased to put their prejudices aside to decide if Murray is criminally responsible for the pop icon's death, according to Murray defense lawyer Michael Flanagan.
"Both sides just want to get a fair jury that hasn't made up their mind and is willing to make a decision based upon the facts," Flanagan said after Thursday's jury selection session.
Lead defense lawyer Ed Chernoff said there were no surprising reasons for striking jurors "for cause," and the pool was filled with people who could be open-minded. "Time ameliorates things," Chernoff said.
Murray, who is charged with involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death, could face up to four years in prison if the jury finds him guilty.
The "for cause" strikes were based mostly on written answers potential jurors gave earlier this month to 113 questions.
Lawyers had a week to study the questionnaire responses, a process they went through once before in April before the trial was delayed for several months.
"One of the things that we learned in the case the last go-around in the jury selection, it's absolutely shocking how many jurors think already they know everything about this case," Chernoff said in an interview last week with Jean Casarez, a reporter with CNN sister network In Session.
Opening statements for the trial, which will be televised, are scheduled for Tuesday. The judge told members of the jury pool he expects their service will be over on or about October 28.
The Los Angeles coroner has ruled that Jackson's death on June 25, 2009, was caused by an overdose of the surgical anesthetic propofol combined with other drugs.
Prosecutors have accused Murray, who served as Jackson's personal and full-time physician at the time, of having a role in the overdose.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/23/justice/california-conrad-murray-jury/index.html
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good points not to mention murray OD mj on them on the 25th
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Yeah, whichever way you turn it, it always comes back to Murray like a boomerang.
Yeah, whichever way you turn it, it always comes back to Murray like a boomerang.
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With selection of jury, trial of doctor accused of killing Michael Jackson nears start
Jury selected in Jackson doctor's case
By LINDA DEUTSCH | Associated Press | 7 minutes ago in Living
More than two years after Michael Jackson was found dead in a Los Angeles mansion, a judge swore in jurors Friday to hear the case against the doctor accused of killing him with an overdose of a powerful anesthetic.
After months of investigation, Dr. Conrad Murray was charged with involuntary manslaughter in February 2010. Since then, both sides have jockeyed to frame the case in their favor.
Prosecutors contend Murray was negligent in administering to Jackson a lethal dose of the anesthetic propofol and other sedatives in the bedroom of the singer's rented mansion without access to proper life-saving equipment.
Murray's attorneys have floated theories that the 50-year-old singer may have given himself the fatal dosage in June 2009 and say the Houston-based cardiologist did not give the singer anything that should have killed him.
Opening statements were scheduled Tuesday in the case.
The seven man, five woman jury was selected after less than six hours of questioning by a judge, defense attorneys and prosecutors.
The speed with which the panel was seated is likely a result of exhaustive 30-page questionnaire the group filled out earlier this month when jury selection began.
Deputy District Attorney David Walgren joked with prospective jurors that the process seemed like "the courtroom version of speed dating, trying to get the most information in a short time."
Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor, determined to move the process quickly, gave each side only 20 minutes to question the first 27 prospects.
The court worked later in the day to find six alternates to step in if any of the jurors had to be excused during the trial.
Murray has pleaded not guilty and could face four years in prison and loss of his medical license if convicted.
As might be expected, the personality and life of the late singer dominated much of the jury questioning.
"Part of this trial is going to be about Michael Jackson," said defense attorney Ed Chernoff. "We're not going to drag up stuff that happened that people may not want to hear about."
But he immediately asked panelists how they remembered Jackson.
One woman said, "as a child with the Jackson Five."
He then asked if she felt that Jackson was childlike in adulthood. She answered no. He asked the entire panel if they saw Jackson as so childlike that he might not be able to make responsible decisions.
"Does anybody here believe Michael Jackson was less capable of making decisions than anybody else?" Chernoff said.
Jurors shook their heads no.
"Does anybody feel Michael Jackson should be held to a different standard of responsibility?" the lawyer asked.
Again, jurors indicated negatively.
During his questioning, prosecutor Walgren framed the issue differently. He wanted to know if a "victim" in a hypothetical car accident could be held partially responsible for his own death if he walked in front of a driver who was running red lights and driving recklessly.
The defense objected to the term "victim," and Walgren changed it to "alleged victim."
He was probing whether panelists might hold Jackson partially responsible for his own demise and thus absolve Murray of responsibility. None said they would.
Bailiffs marched 84 potential jurors into the courtroom, but 10 were quickly dismissed because they said they could no longer serve on such a long case.
___
AP Entertainment Writer Anthony McCartney contributed to this report.
http://www.newser.com/article/d9pug...d-of-killing-michael-jackson-nears-start.html
With selection of jury, trial of doctor accused of killing Michael Jackson nears start
Jury selected in Jackson doctor's case
By LINDA DEUTSCH | Associated Press | 7 minutes ago in Living
More than two years after Michael Jackson was found dead in a Los Angeles mansion, a judge swore in jurors Friday to hear the case against the doctor accused of killing him with an overdose of a powerful anesthetic.
After months of investigation, Dr. Conrad Murray was charged with involuntary manslaughter in February 2010. Since then, both sides have jockeyed to frame the case in their favor.
Prosecutors contend Murray was negligent in administering to Jackson a lethal dose of the anesthetic propofol and other sedatives in the bedroom of the singer's rented mansion without access to proper life-saving equipment.
Murray's attorneys have floated theories that the 50-year-old singer may have given himself the fatal dosage in June 2009 and say the Houston-based cardiologist did not give the singer anything that should have killed him.
Opening statements were scheduled Tuesday in the case.
The seven man, five woman jury was selected after less than six hours of questioning by a judge, defense attorneys and prosecutors.
The speed with which the panel was seated is likely a result of exhaustive 30-page questionnaire the group filled out earlier this month when jury selection began.
Deputy District Attorney David Walgren joked with prospective jurors that the process seemed like "the courtroom version of speed dating, trying to get the most information in a short time."
Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor, determined to move the process quickly, gave each side only 20 minutes to question the first 27 prospects.
The court worked later in the day to find six alternates to step in if any of the jurors had to be excused during the trial.
Murray has pleaded not guilty and could face four years in prison and loss of his medical license if convicted.
As might be expected, the personality and life of the late singer dominated much of the jury questioning.
"Part of this trial is going to be about Michael Jackson," said defense attorney Ed Chernoff. "We're not going to drag up stuff that happened that people may not want to hear about."
But he immediately asked panelists how they remembered Jackson.
One woman said, "as a child with the Jackson Five."
He then asked if she felt that Jackson was childlike in adulthood. She answered no. He asked the entire panel if they saw Jackson as so childlike that he might not be able to make responsible decisions.
"Does anybody here believe Michael Jackson was less capable of making decisions than anybody else?" Chernoff said.
Jurors shook their heads no.
"Does anybody feel Michael Jackson should be held to a different standard of responsibility?" the lawyer asked.
Again, jurors indicated negatively.
During his questioning, prosecutor Walgren framed the issue differently. He wanted to know if a "victim" in a hypothetical car accident could be held partially responsible for his own death if he walked in front of a driver who was running red lights and driving recklessly.
The defense objected to the term "victim," and Walgren changed it to "alleged victim."
He was probing whether panelists might hold Jackson partially responsible for his own demise and thus absolve Murray of responsibility. None said they would.
Bailiffs marched 84 potential jurors into the courtroom, but 10 were quickly dismissed because they said they could no longer serve on such a long case.
___
AP Entertainment Writer Anthony McCartney contributed to this report.
http://www.newser.com/article/d9pug...d-of-killing-michael-jackson-nears-start.html
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Bingo. I'm about ready to put Walgren in the T-Mez category of brilliance. He's on top of it and has been from the get-go, imo. Makes me feel so much better about this trial. As crappy as the defense side seems to be, without a good prosecutor advocating and hammering on the crucial points it could be easy to fumble something that should be a slam dunk.
Your point is also valid and I think it's good that you brought it up becuz there's probably some ppl who will immediately think of a scenario such as yours as a possibility of Murray not being completely at fault. However, like Elusive mentioned, in a case where the driver did nothing wrong and was paying attention, following the law and speed limit, etc. that would be the perfect scenario for exoneration.
In this case we know Murray was not paying attention, and not following protocol for administering propofol. In this situation Murray is the speeding driver, possibly drunk and/or fumbling with the radio who hit someone (injecting propofol while possibly ON the phone and then leaving his patient unattended without any alert system in place or connected to alert him that the person under his medical care was medically in trouble).
Walgren's scenario is perfect.
And I think excusing the attorney, Connie Rice, was probably best for both sides as she's an attorney and whichever way she leaned she could be persuasive to others who were on the fence one way or another. Sometimes certain professions can make a person too strong for either side to take a chance on...which is why most times attorneys don't get picked or make for high-risk jurors. One side or the other is likely to object to them sitting on a jury even when they insist they can be fair.
Thanks to all for the updates. Looks like we're finally going to trial. My heart beat a little faster just typing that sentence.
Bingo. I'm about ready to put Walgren in the T-Mez category of brilliance. He's on top of it and has been from the get-go, imo. Makes me feel so much better about this trial. As crappy as the defense side seems to be, without a good prosecutor advocating and hammering on the crucial points it could be easy to fumble something that should be a slam dunk.
Your point is also valid and I think it's good that you brought it up becuz there's probably some ppl who will immediately think of a scenario such as yours as a possibility of Murray not being completely at fault. However, like Elusive mentioned, in a case where the driver did nothing wrong and was paying attention, following the law and speed limit, etc. that would be the perfect scenario for exoneration.
In this case we know Murray was not paying attention, and not following protocol for administering propofol. In this situation Murray is the speeding driver, possibly drunk and/or fumbling with the radio who hit someone (injecting propofol while possibly ON the phone and then leaving his patient unattended without any alert system in place or connected to alert him that the person under his medical care was medically in trouble).
Walgren's scenario is perfect.
And I think excusing the attorney, Connie Rice, was probably best for both sides as she's an attorney and whichever way she leaned she could be persuasive to others who were on the fence one way or another. Sometimes certain professions can make a person too strong for either side to take a chance on...which is why most times attorneys don't get picked or make for high-risk jurors. One side or the other is likely to object to them sitting on a jury even when they insist they can be fair.
Thanks to all for the updates. Looks like we're finally going to trial. My heart beat a little faster just typing that sentence.
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Re: Jury Selection News and Discussion / Jury Questionnaire posted
PatrickNBCLA Patrick Healy
Update on composition of jury in #ConradMurray case: panel is NOT devoid of African Americans. Juror 9 describes himself so
Jury alternates: 3 women and 2 men. The sixth alternate selected was not confirmed. (Mellie321 from Erin)
Erin adds that the 6 public seats will be split between the public and the media.
PatrickNBCLA Patrick Healy
Update on composition of jury in #ConradMurray case: panel is NOT devoid of African Americans. Juror 9 describes himself so
Jury alternates: 3 women and 2 men. The sixth alternate selected was not confirmed. (Mellie321 from Erin)
Erin adds that the 6 public seats will be split between the public and the media.
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Yes, but that's where my sarcastic comment about patients running into the needle came from. But like I said, I guess I was thinking too complicated, because they probably meant more "normal" circumstances.
Yes, but that's where my sarcastic comment about patients running into the needle came from. But like I said, I guess I was thinking too complicated, because they probably meant more "normal" circumstances.