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Hello MJJC family,

For this story, we have a blog on HLN that states that Michael began his dark journey of drug addiction back in the 80’s. In addition to the content of the blog itself, the blog title is a perfect example of how the tabloid media uses headline grabbing titles to draw people in. We have included the link to the blog here. Please know that each time you visit the website, the site is making money. Unfortunately in order for us to refute and respond to these types of stories, we will need to go to these sites in order to respond. It is very important for our voices to be heard and seen. Please know that it’s your choice to visit the website or not. I (windy09) have also posted my response here, but please do not copy it and post it out on the site. It’s posted to give you an idea of how you can respond if you are not sure what to say. The comment is still waiting for moderation, so hopefully it will be posted.

http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011...ted-in-the-80s/comment-page-1/#comment-120189

(windy09's reply)

CNN, I sincerely hope you post this comment as I think there are things that require clarification. I think I need to clear something up here for all of those who believe the media sensationalistic reporting about Michael Jackson being a drug addict and it starting back in the 80’s. Yes, he had an accident back in the 80’s and his hair caught on fire. No, Michael was not on drugs when this accident occurred. No he didn’t feel his hair on fire probably because as he was running down the stairs, it may have taken awhile for the flames to set in. It could happen to anyone. Michael was rehearsing another run-through of his entrance. He delayed his walk down the stairs just a few minutes longer than the previous times. The pyrotechnics were just a bit too close and because of the delay and the flammable products that were used at the time, his hair caught on fire. Had Michael stopped earlier, he may have felt the burning. So until you know for sure, all the statements about drug use during the accident are not applicable. Also, yes Michael announced in 1993 that he had a problem with pain medication; however, he went into rehab and overcame the issue.

There is one important fact that you all need to consider and that is the autopsy results showed that Michael was in better health then the average 50 year old male. I advise you to read it so you are clear on the facts. Yes he was dealing with the standard issues of aging such as arthritis and a large prostate, but it was testified that he was basically very healthy. Also the only drugs that were found in his system were dispensed by Conrad Murray. There were no other drugs found in his system. I’m not agreeing with the use of Propofol. I’m saying that while Michael may have allowed Murray to treat his insomnia with Propofol or Lorazepam, Murray deviated from the standard of care in so many ways. First, he neglected to call 911 right away. He tried to perform CPR with one hand and on the bed. Anyone who knows CPR, knows it must be performed on a hard surface and with 2 hands. There was no monitoring equipment and he wasn’t monitoring Michael himself. There were no means to resuscitate Michael and there were no other medical personnel present. He lied to the paramedics and ER doctors about what he had given to his patient. Shall I go on? Murray also knew that Michael was being treated by other doctors. He lied about that. Murray did not document Michael’s medical history or obtain it from the previous doctors so that he could review it. A doctor needs to know what the patient is taking or what they were previously treated for before they can treat them. All of these facts were testified to by the last 2 prosecution witnesses. Murray absolutely does need to be held accountable for his actions. He took an oath to do no harm and every one of his actions was the opposite of do no harm.

Let’s say for conversation sake that Michael was addicted to the drugs, Murray had an obligation to not give him any drugs as a doctor would not give drugs to an “addict”. Murray even recorded Michael back on May 10, 2009. Murray was aware and it’s very apparent on that recording. So before anyone makes these blatant and unfounded statements, I would advise you do some research and look at the facts. I’m not saying that Michael shouldn’t take any responsibility. I’m saying that he trusted his doctor and his doctor failed him completely. What these bloggers and media outlets are saying are just reiterations of what they (media) have been saying all along, which are sound bites and sensationalistic statements to get ratings. They use these headline grabbing titles to pull people in. What’s worse is that people are being spoon fed this yellow journalism they are trying to pass off as news. I sincerely encourage people to do their own research. You will be amazed at what you find to be the real truth and what you find to be sensational and fabricated lies. Michael was a victim of many fabricated lies all his life and he still is even after his passing. I ask one more question. Where is your humanity and compassion? Michael Jackson was a father, brother and son. He leaves behind 3 children. At what point in time did we find it acceptable to dehumanize someone? Are we that insensitive? It appears to me that many are, especially by looking at blogs such as this and some of these comments. All I can say is that I feel great compassion for you. Maybe someone could go against the yellow journalism grain and write a positive story about Michael Jackson. He gave millions of dollars in charity, helped many people and left us with a wonderful legacy with his art, music and dance. Is anyone up to standing up for what is right?"
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As always, we sincerely appreciate your efforts to help defend, protect, preserve and Michael’s legacy. Thank you.

Our best,
MJJC Legacy Project Media Advocacy Team

Kim (windy09)
Maria (Maria MJ)
Deborah (DeborahFfrench)
 
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Thanks for the info, but I won't be clicking on the link. I refuse to feed the monster. There will ALWAYS be people that love to lie, spread confusion and hate about pretty much anyone, famous or not. Keeping avenues of truth open and available (like this site and others) is the best way to counteract the ugliness. Truth seekers know where to go, if they're interested. The reality is, some people just like to feed on the bs, like to read the lies, the gossip, the hate and for those types of people you're wasting your time and energy on.
 
Done.

October 14th, 2011 2:01 pm ET
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@Zach, and everyone else who seems to be suffering from some sort of misinformation: Michael admitted to being addicted to painkiller medications in 1993, this is well-known, and he went to rehab for it. It may also interest you ALL to know that he was given both a urine and blood test post-mortem, and NO painkiller medications were found on his system (meaning, no Demerol, etc.) Moreover, he had no organ damage (a tell-tale sign of long-term drug abuse, as you would all know), therefore....how could he be on drugs since the 1980s and suffer no organ damage? Unless Michael Jackson is some sort of superhuman übermensch, I don't see it happening. If even using OTC drugs for a long time (i.e. acetaminophen) takes a toll on the liver, imagine the effects abusing painkiller medication would have on your organs! Yet, Jackson exhibited no organ damage from drug use....so how in the world is he a drug addict, then?

The only drugs which came up on the drug test were the ones MURRAY administered, at the dosages MURRAY prescribed. Meaning, Michael did not self-administer these drugs...he did as Murray told him. Murray is the medical professional in this setting. Murray is the one who should have known propofol is not under any circumstances an appropriate agent to deal with insomnia, and its use outside a hospital setting is practically unheard of, not to mention not in any way sensible. MURRAY is the one who failed his patient, not only by administering him dangerous drugs and failing to address the bad reaction he had on 6.18.2009, and pushing away both Kenny Ortega and Frank Dileo, who called him in regards to Michael.

MURRAY is the one who breached patient/doctor confidentiality by recording his patient clearly having a bad reaction from the medication he administered. There was no medical necessity to record Jackson's conversation on Murray's iPhone...certainly no concern on Murray's part, as he just ordered more medication after that.

Lastly, and most importantly, MURRAY was the one who abandoned his patient to die alone, delayed calling 911, and CONSCIOUSLY withheld information from security, paramedics, and the UCLA hospital staff on 6.25.2009. He also lied on his police interview, which is the reason he stands in court today, to answer for his negligent and reckless actions.

Let us not forget who this trial is about. Media: this is not a free pass for you to smear Michael Jackson's legacy, nor to drag him through the mud as you have done countless times before. We, the people, will no longer stand for this. We demand RESPECT for Michael Jackson as a human being. We demand ACCOUNTABILITY for negligent medics and their callous ways. This is the core of the nature of this trial–responsibility and ethics.

A grave violation against both has been committed, resulting in the death of a man, whose children no longer have a father, all because of one doctor's insatiable greed and incredible negligence.
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This time I am not clicking on the link, because it is the intent of HLN to continue pushing the idea that Michael was a drug addict. They do not care about the comments but the potential for money. There is no new news about Michael and they need something nasty to keep their site going. I will wait for another way to deal with this. Clicking does not seem the best way for me now.

PS: original poster I think you have an error in your post. Michael was not addicted to drugs in the 80s, but in the 90s. I agree that a better way is to target the sponsors, or we should make a blog about the facts showing Michal was not an addict so people could click on it when they search for Michal Jackson.
 
^No, but HLN readers might care about the comments. That is why we post. We know HLN doesn't read comments, but the readers do. So, our hope in posting comments is to remedy their ignorance with some actual information.
 
From "Michael Jackson was NOT an addict" (facebook)

Is HLN the drug addiction network? They used and exploited Michael Jackson's death by covering the conrad Murray trail with a tabloid agenda. During coverage of the trail the network ran commercials for a drug treatment center. Many of the guest on these shows were recovering addicts who knew very little about the actual evidence presented in court and were only guest on these shows for the most sensational and unfair purpose. To project their own drug addict experience onto the most famous celebrity. A man who is no longer here to defend himself.

For months leading up to the trial pundits on HLN, in particular Jane Velez Mitchell expressed their hope that the Conrad Murray trial would shed light on presciption drug abuse. This despite the fact that no patient can get a prescription for propofol.

As for Jane velez Michell's extreme agenda to proclaim Jackson an addict. In the weeks following Michael Jackson's passing, she would often use speculation about his death as a way of promoting her book. A book about alchoholism/drug addiction.

MJ Legacy7

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Michael-Jackson-was-NOT-an-addict/288817687803025?ref=ts
 
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SheilaMJFan4Ever said:
Thanks for the info, but I won't be clicking on the link. I refuse to feed the monster. There will ALWAYS be people that love to lie, spread confusion and hate about pretty much anyone, famous or not. Keeping avenues of truth open and available (like this site and others) is the best way to counteract the ugliness. Truth seekers know where to go, if they're interested. The reality is, some people just like to feed on the bs, like to read the lies, the gossip, the hate and for those types of people you're wasting your time and energy on.
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Thank you for your input. Everyone has a choice on how or if they wish to respond.
 
Severus Snape;3511840 said:
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October 14th, 2011 2:01 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
@Zach, and everyone else who seems to be suffering from some sort of misinformation: Michael admitted to being addicted to painkiller medications in 1993, this is well-known, and he went to rehab for it. It may also interest you ALL to know that he was given both a urine and blood test post-mortem, and NO painkiller medications were found on his system (meaning, no Demerol, etc.) Moreover, he had no organ damage (a tell-tale sign of long-term drug abuse, as you would all know), therefore....how could he be on drugs since the 1980s and suffer no organ damage? Unless Michael Jackson is some sort of superhuman übermensch, I don't see it happening. If even using OTC drugs for a long time (i.e. acetaminophen) takes a toll on the liver, imagine the effects abusing painkiller medication would have on your organs! Yet, Jackson exhibited no organ damage from drug use....so how in the world is he a drug addict, then?

The only drugs which came up on the drug test were the ones MURRAY administered, at the dosages MURRAY prescribed. Meaning, Michael did not self-administer these drugs...he did as Murray told him. Murray is the medical professional in this setting. Murray is the one who should have known propofol is not under any circumstances an appropriate agent to deal with insomnia, and its use outside a hospital setting is practically unheard of, not to mention not in any way sensible. MURRAY is the one who failed his patient, not only by administering him dangerous drugs and failing to address the bad reaction he had on 6.18.2009, and pushing away both Kenny Ortega and Frank Dileo, who called him in regards to Michael.

MURRAY is the one who breached patient/doctor confidentiality by recording his patient clearly having a bad reaction from the medication he administered. There was no medical necessity to record Jackson's conversation on Murray's iPhone...certainly no concern on Murray's part, as he just ordered more medication after that.

Lastly, and most importantly, MURRAY was the one who abandoned his patient to die alone, delayed calling 911, and CONSCIOUSLY withheld information from security, paramedics, and the UCLA hospital staff on 6.25.2009. He also lied on his police interview, which is the reason he stands in court today, to answer for his negligent and reckless actions.

Let us not forget who this trial is about. Media: this is not a free pass for you to smear Michael Jackson's legacy, nor to drag him through the mud as you have done countless times before. We, the people, will no longer stand for this. We demand RESPECT for Michael Jackson as a human being. We demand ACCOUNTABILITY for negligent medics and their callous ways. This is the core of the nature of this trial–responsibility and ethics.

A grave violation against both has been committed, resulting in the death of a man, whose children no longer have a father, all because of one doctor's insatiable greed and incredible negligence.
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Thank you much.
 
Petrarose said:
This time I am not clicking on the link, because it is the intent of HLN to continue pushing the idea that Michael was a drug addict. They do not care about the comments but the potential for money. There is no new news about Michael and they need something nasty to keep their site going. I will wait for another way to deal with this. Clicking does not seem the best way for me now.

PS: original poster I think you have an error in your post. Michael was not addicted to drugs in the 80s, but in the 90s. I agree that a better way is to target the sponsors, or we should make a blog about the facts showing Michal was not an addict so people could click on it when they search for Michal Jackson.
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Thank you for your input, but as I indicated to another member, you have a choice on how you want to respond. We are just getting the stories out.

Also, with your reference about the original poster to this story, the story was posted referencing the title as it is written. If you had decided to click on the link you would see that the title references the 80's, not the 90's. So there was no error.
 
I read the CNN article and it's not so bad. I don't get bothered by articles by the drug addiction articles. I know there's a stigma attached to being a drug user. There's a lot of prejudice involved. Even though there's nothing wrong with being a drug user, it's like having a flaw in character. I see fans flying off the handles when they read an article that suggests Michael had a problem with drugs. So what, if he did. It wouldn't denigrate him in any way. Drug addiction is not a flaw in the character, it's an illness and as such should be seen and treated properly. I don't go to great pains to show Michael didn't have a drug problem. It's all speculation in the end. The only fact we have here is that he was using Propofol with the help of Murray for the last three months of his life. Not enough to say he was addicted to it, I guess.
 
kissybissy said:
I read the CNN article and it's not so bad. I don't get bothered by articles by the drug addiction articles. I know there's a stigma attached to being a drug user. There's a lot of prejudice involved. Even though there's nothing wrong with being a drug user, it's like having a flaw in character. I see fans flying off the handles when they read an article that suggests Michael had a problem with drugs. So what, if he did. It wouldn't denigrate him in any way. Drug addiction is not a flaw in the character, it's an illness and as such should be seen and treated properly. I don't go to great pains to show Michael didn't have a drug problem. It's all speculation in the end. The only fact we have here is that he was using Propofol with the help of Murray for the last three months of his life. Not enough to say he was addicted to it, I guess.
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Yes I agree that drug addiction is not a flaw, it is an illness. Also, there may be some fans who are very passionate and sensitive and others not so much. We all look at things differently. It's neither wrong or right. We post these stories and if people feel the need to respond, it is their choice. Thank you for your input.
 
Unbelievable! This SOB Dr. Drew just said the fact that the prosecution has proven Michael didn’t have 8 lorazapam pills in his stomach is irrelevant because MJ didn’t have ANY veins left in his body anywhere! Where in the heck did he get that crap from? Answer, he made it up and pulled it out of his lying opportunistic butt as usual!
 
kissybissy said:
I read the CNN article and it's not so bad. I don't get bothered by articles by the drug addiction articles. I know there's a stigma attached to being a drug user. There's a lot of prejudice involved. Even though there's nothing wrong with being a drug user, it's like having a flaw in character. I see fans flying off the handles when they read an article that suggests Michael had a problem with drugs. So what, if he did. It wouldn't denigrate him in any way. Drug addiction is not a flaw in the character, it's an illness and as such should be seen and treated properly. I don't go to great pains to show Michael didn't have a drug problem. It's all speculation in the end. The only fact we have here is that he was using Propofol with the help of Murray for the last three months of his life. Not enough to say he was addicted to it, I guess.
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Actually according to Murray the Propofol use was the last 2 months of Michael's life. However, that is what Murray says not a fact.
 
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