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Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date April 2, 2013

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Kingofpop4ever3000 said:
Can Katherine file an appeal if she loses the case?
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yes, everyone can file for an appeal however chances of winning an appeal is slim (20 to 25 percent)
 
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qbee said:
Actually Michael has it set up the same way he did in life. Through his Mother. She uses the money as she sees fit.
Michael never directly supported his syblins or father it was through katherine. And so it still is... what she gives
or doesnt give to her family is her business. Its HER Money from Michael to do with as she pleases.
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But when Katherine passes her 40% goes back to the estate/children. Doesn't it? I don't think she can pass it on to her own children. I am sorry to disagree with you but I think Michael left the money for Katherines lifetime care only not for her to take care of all the Jacksons and I think that is why he set up to go back to the kids. She can't will it to anybody. Maybe it's just me but I think Michael did that on purpose
 
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Did it say anything in the will about the money kj gets now is only for her own bills or can she use it as she wishes?.

agree that mj made sure no one would get anything after kj dies. thats why shes doing this. hoing for a payday so her other kids can carry on as now. snd if mj gets thrown under the bus in the process so be it cause the family as whole is more important
 
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Update

KJ's lawyers responded to AEG's claims saying that
- the documents they produced aren't necessarily in chronological order,
- the documents are produced in single page format, (for example rather than sending 1 PDF with 12 pages they send 12 separate pages)
-claim the hard-copy, TIFF and PDF was AEG's choice,
- the last submission was in password protected RAR compression format which KJ's lawyers say their computers cannot open RAR and it's time consuming to enter the password
- and the rolling production cannot continue indefinitely

They ask the judge for
- a date the document production should end
- monetary sanctions
- order AEG to sort the documents and label them according to the requests
 
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sounds like more stalling on KJ's part
 
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ilmjj said:
But when Katherine passes her 40% goes back to the estate/children. Doesn't it? I don't think she can pass it on to her own children. I am sorry to disagree with you but I think Michael left the money for Katherines lifetime care only not for her to take care of all the Jacksons and I think that is why he set up to go back to the kids. She can't will it to anybody. Maybe it's just me but I think Michael did that on purpose
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I think he did do it on purpose. He provided for his mom but then when she passes it goes straight back to his kids. I bet Michael knew that she would use that money to help the others as she always did. Maybe Michael didn't directly give money to the others but he knew what katherine was doing with it. I don't think the media will treat Michael well as history has shown but I don't think they will protect the family either. People have already called them out on using Michael's death to make money.
 
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I doubt AEG thinks it's their job to make this easy and convenient for KJ lawyers.
 
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ilmjj said:
I doubt AEG thinks it's their job to make this easy and convenient for KJ lawyers.
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Actually, it is their job. I work for law firm and cannot imagine that somebody would produce such a hot mess. Documents suppose to be produced in chronological order, numbered and preferably in unified format.
 
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I guess thats how lawyers work. u only have to look at d.a's defence lawyers etc. how they always mess each side about with delaying tactics etc. same with kjs lawyers
 
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Hearing is next friday (july 13). I think probably the media will report the outcome on the same day. court system most probably will not show what the judge decided until mid following week.
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
Thanks ivy. so you would say kjs lawyers are playing silly buggers interms of the filing the compell motion? serms they are just messing aeg around interms of asking for docs in one format than another.

good that the estate are doing what they can to protect mj through the med records

this case will only hurt mj as the media will only report info that makes mj look like a d.a. they wont report info about how mj supported his family how they were deadbeats. imo the media will protect the family as they have offered mj on a plate to the media hence the request to report on this
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^^Yes that is exactly what the media will do. I am still curious about the 84-09 medical agreement. What is there that is pertinent to AEG's case, or are they fishing like Muarry's team did when they wanted to see all the TII footage and bring in the financial documents? I hope there is a way we can look at these documents if they become public, so we can have the facts when the media tries to sensationalize the information.
 
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Just cause AEG are asking for docs from 84 onwards doesnt mean theres anything of use to them. they have to ask for them and look otherwise they would never know.

obviously theres the burn and onward treatment of that. lupus etc. So that will be used by the media and AEG regardless. look how murray said mj was addicted to demoral when there was no evidence based on amounts given and times of visits. so expect AEG to do the same and the media will run with it
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
Did it say anything in the will about the money kj gets now is only for her own bills or can she use it as she wishes?.

agree that mj made sure no one would get anything after kj dies. thats why shes doing this. hoing for a payday so her other kids can carry on as now. snd if mj gets thrown under the bus in the process so be it cause the family as whole is more important
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I think you are right. If I remember right, as long as the estate in on probate (not sure about wording) Katherine only gets certain amount of money for her personal use/month, estate pays bills etc. Same with kids.

ilmjj said:
But when Katherine passes her 40% goes back to the estate/children. Doesn't it? I don't think she can pass it on to her own children. I am sorry to disagree with you but I think Michael left the money for Katherines lifetime care only not for her to take care of all the Jacksons and I think that is why he set up to go back to the kids. She can't will it to anybody. Maybe it's just me but I think Michael did that on purpose
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No, she cannot pass her share to other siblings.
It wasn't long ago when we were talking about when Michael went to Dubai (cannot remember which board/thread was it),
he left 1 million to his attorney to take care of Katherine while he was away.
Katherine tried to get that million at once, but attorney was instructed to give money only when needed and I think receipt was requested before he could give money to Katherine. That to me shows that Michael knew Katherine was helping out others and he didn't want her to give money to them. The trust is set the same way and he did it on purpose.
 
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Bubs said:
If I remember right, as long as the estate in on probate (not sure about wording) Katherine only gets certain amount of money for her personal use/month, estate pays bills etc. Same with kids.
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As i understood it, it's not just when the estate is in probate - this was the permanent setup that was described in the will. Only difference is that it is the children when they reach certain ages that will have access to the capital as opposed to an allowance.

I doubt mrs j will have any money in her estate apart from chattels, i imagine as soon as her share comes in each month from the mj estate it quickly goes out again to meet various 'needs'. Past history suggests she's not a great saver.

In the highly unlikely event that mrs j does get a big monetary award from this lawsuit, the first $6m should be earmarked to pay back the mj estate for paying off the moonie lawsuit.
 
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Do we have a list of all the people who were deposed? Did they already have a witness list?
 
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If Mrs K. Jackson drops her law suit against AEG, can AEG sue Mrs Jackson and the Childrens for there INHERITANCE?
 
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shelly_webster said:
Do we have a list of all the people who were deposed? Did they already have a witness list?
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no , no

mdiegee210 said:
If Mrs K. Jackson drops her law suit against AEG, can AEG sue Mrs Jackson and the Childrens for there INHERITANCE?
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no not for inheritance, perhaps legal costs and/or defamation but it wouldn't be as much as inheritance plus it's in a trust so kinda protected.
 
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Good, thank you.
 
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The estate is really in a tough position here. They are working so hard to protect Michael so they are trying to watch all the records and information AEG has so hopefully Michael isn't dragged completely through the mud. But on the other hand Katherine wants the estate to give her the money so she can go after AEG who in turn will go after Michael full steam ahead and MJ will get dragged through the mud...

My head is spinning!!::stars:
 
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^^Mine too. It makes me feel good to know that Michael is still making money & at the same time is kind of sad that his not here to enjoy it. But the worst is -if TMZ's is correct- that Katherine is asking for money to pay for lawyer to throw mud at Michael. I hope the estate doesn't give her the money because not only the lawyers will come out with stories that suit them, but the media will be having a fest. Approved by mother and paid by Michael. Really sad.
 
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Why can't Janet or the others give her the money since they support this suit? Michael's estate shouldn't have to pay her legal fees for this.
 
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marebear said:
Why can't Janet or the others give her the money since they support this suit? Michael's estate shouldn't have to pay her legal fees for this.
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She will always go to them because they are the one's Michael appointed to give her money. I know Michael did not think that she would use it to help a company trash him. I expect the estate will look at how much the attorney's are charging Katherine. Does anyone remember, but earlier in 09 wasn't it said that Katherine's lawyers for the AEG case were to be paid if she wins the case? There was some discussion about this here.
 
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that Katherine is asking for money to pay for lawyer to throw mud at Michael.
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This is so sad :(
 
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marebear said:
Why can't Janet or the others give her the money since they support this suit? Michael's estate shouldn't have to pay her legal fees for this.
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I agree, get all the family members together who support this and make them kick in the money needed. Not MJ's estate.
 
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ivy said:
no not for inheritance, perhaps legal costs and/or defamation but it wouldn't be as much as inheritance plus it's in a trust so kinda protected.
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If Katherine loses this case, she would have to pay legal costs for both sides (her and AEG legal teams costs), also surely AEG wants money from KJ for defamation. What ever moneys Katherine have to pay, comes from estate as she has no income from other source.
So can we expect to see next time when estate gives situation report (the same as TMZ posted), there will be amount that Katherine asked from estate for paying her legal fees, accounting + amount she has to pay for AEG? Also I was wondering if they lose the case against AEG, and if AEG sue KJ for defamation, would they name kids to their suit as they were named as plaintiffs in the KJ vs AEG case?
 
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The Estate can't pay her bills for her stupid lawyers.Katherine receive every month some money, she uses like she wants this money, and she can pay her lawyers.Why the Estate must pay her lawyers? The Estate can refuse that,and I hope they don't pay.
 
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Dont think a set amount has been given but basically the money mj would have made from TII plus xtra bits
 
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