Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date April 2, 2013

[ivy]

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what exactly is the media saying about the emails? I haven't heard anything.. If anything it makes AEG look bad, not MJ. It also proves that they were all using MJ and they didn't care about him or his health. How does that hurt Michael?

don't you think, drunk, lazy, paranoid, basket case, destitute and etc makes Michael look bad?

I don't think AEG knew what Murray was doing to Michael. Murray told them what they wanted to hear. Look at his patients that testified. He had a way about him to convince people. He made Michael sick. Michael was healthy when he died his autopsy confirms that. But when he felt ill and one side of the body was hot and the other cold for example it was what Murray was doing. He wasn't getting proper rest to prepare.

I agree. I mean, it's obvious that they thought that something was wrong with Michael. Why were they taking Murray's word for it that Michael was fine if they had already seen for themselves that Michael was in trouble? Kenny Ortega tried to ring the alarm many times and finally got told by Murray to mind his own business after he sent Michael home for a day when Michael wasn't feeling well. Now why didn't that sound suspicious to anyone at AEG?

It's all about what they knew or what they thought was happening.

Look to the emails. They had signed Michael for a 30 concert minimum , maximum a world tour show. Michael hadn't been on tour since 1997, hadn't been on stage since 2001. That's at least 8 years. They saw him as scared, unsure, nervous, not confident. They thought he was drinking to overcome that or would try to get out of it because he's scared. Dropping him / cancelling the concerts could have also affected his already vulnerable psyche. So they could have thought pushing him, motivating him saying "hey you can do it" could be the answer to build up his confidence.

Knowing what Murray did, knowing that he was filled with benzos and anesthesia was a totally different thing and situation. From the leaked emails we see no evidence of such knowledge.

As of now I think - based on the emails reported- AEG thought Michael wasn't mentally ready but I don't think they suspected any physical problems (he didn't have any according to the autopsy) and regular and dangerous drug use.

 

[Justthefacts]

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It would also IMO appear that they (AEG) thought when Michael got on stage and saw that he could still do it he would be fine. And again I like I said in 09 and like I say now please tell me what was physically wrong with Michael? Nothing.

 

[ivy]

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It would also IMO appear that they (AEG) thought when Michael got on stage and saw that he could still do it he would be fine. And again I like I said in 09 and like I say now please tell me what was physically wrong with Michael? Nothing.

That's what I was trying to say too. I think they thought he was just scared as he hadn't been on stage for quite some time. They thought he needed a push and be motivated and when he completes the first concert he would be fine and his self doubt would go away.

As of now nothing in the leak emails show a knowledge of drug issues or knowledge of what Murray was doing.

 

[8701girl]

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Another new tidbit is that AEG fired Grace R

You mean the childrens nanny yeh?.......but what the heck would she have to do with AEG? michael shouldve been the one to deal with her not AEG

 

[loveforever]

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I don't know how much more I can possibly take regarding this. It's only obvious no one really had his well-being in mind, except maybe Ortega. But his concerns were cast aside because no one wanted to hear them, especially considering how much potential profit was at stake if his preoccupations turned out to be legitimate, which they ultimately did.

It is possible Ortega wanted a psychiatrist to be called because of the reported obsessive behaviour and paranoia, but both these things can occur as side effects and/or overdose of certain medications. I don't know how much Ortega knew about the nature of Murray's "treatment," but he wouldn't be intentionally misguided to think a psychiatrist would be able to help with those issues. They are also parts of anxiety disorders, after all, as is the trembling. But in Michael's case it was obviously due to Murray's treatment.

obviously and evidently. Half body hot and half body cold, poor Michael. No matter what, Michael was still on top of his work. Most footages from this is it are from his last days. Kenny Ortega, AEG, the dancers, everyone said Michael was so amazing and jawdropping in his last rehearsals. We knew he really tried to do this and make his fans proud.

 

[shelly_webster]

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"During trial we learned that AEG could not cancel any shows unless Michael agreed to it."

Who said it and what did they say exactly?

 

[HIStory]

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During trial we learned that AEG could not cancel any shows unless Michael agreed to it.

And Michael did not want the shows to be cancelled. I remember there was another e-mail by Kenny (and IIRC it was shown during the trial) in which he begs AEG to not to pull the plug because it would break Michael's heart. Michael might have been pushed into it by his financial situation, but he did want to do it once he was in. It wasn't like he wanted out and they would not allow him. Now, whether he wanted to do as many shows is another question. We know about the story that he told fans in May that he did not want to do 50 shows.

 

[Severus Snape]

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obviously and evidently. Half body hot and half body cold, poor Michael. No matter what, Michael was still on top of his work. Most footages from this is it are from his last days. Kenny Ortega, AEG, the dancers, everyone said Michael was so amazing and jawdropping in his last rehearsals. We knew he really tried to do this and make his fans proud.

I've had that happen to me numerous times as a result of medications. It is not pleasant. It makes you feel weak, uncomfortable, and like utter shit. I couldn't imagine going to my sedentary job under such conditions, much less practicing a physically demanding concert rehearsal.

 

[Bubs]

You mean the childrens nanny yeh?.......but what the heck would she have to do with AEG? michael shouldve been the one to deal with her not AEG

I don't know if she was kids nanny at the time, I thought kids nanny was Aileen (cannot remember her second name).
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And two months before Ortega complained to Phillips that Jackson appeared “weak” and neglected by his personal staff, an AEG executive personally fired Jackson’s longtime nanny and confidant Grace Rwaramba to help the bottom line.
“AEG has been cutting down on Mr. Jackson’s expenses in anticipation of his upcoming tour. Unfortunately at this time the services you provide do not meet our needs,” AEG exec Paul Gongaware told Rwaramba April 19.
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What are the services they are talking about that Grace provided? I doubt that AEG would fire kids nanny, they knew kids would need nanny in London, so why would they fire kids nanny? It doesn't make any sense unless she wasn't nanny for kids, but for Michael and they thought she was useless whatever she provided for MJ
Of course, it could be possible that Michael asked then to fire her as he didn't like fire anyone.

 

[Mneme]

And two months before Ortega complained to Phillips that Jackson appeared “weak” and neglected by his personal staff, an AEG executive personally fired Jackson’s longtime nanny and confidant Grace Rwaramba to help the bottom line.

“AEG has been cutting down on Mr. Jackson’s expenses in anticipation of his upcoming tour. Unfortunately at this time the services you provide do not meet our needs,” AEG exec Paul Gongaware told Rwaramba April 19.
ndillon@nydailynews.com

Here it is Michael who has had fired her:
Grace told Daphne: "I took these babies in my arms on the first day of each of their lives. They are MY babies."
Grace claims she was sacked by Jackson because she was getting too close to the children but had fully expected to be reinstated soon.
She said he routinely fired her then begged her to return as he was unable to look after himself never mind the three children.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...-Rwaramba.html


Here it was Tohmé who has fired her:
She tells Barak how she was fired last spring on a Sunday morning by telephone. The nanny says “the guy”’presumably Tohme Tohme’”terminated” her by offering her a “ridiculous” salary.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2009/07/10/20090710grace-rwaramba-nanny-daphne-barak-interview


and now is it the hard-hearted AEG (in persona of P. Gongaware) who has fired her?
If there is really such e-mail then I ask me why Grace has accepted it, because her contract was with Michael, not with AEG.


only btw....
The nanny after Grace was an aunt from Michael Amir.... "Brother Michael" how Murray called him in his LAPD-interview.
"Brother" from whom or from what brotherhood?
Who does find her? Amir? Tohmé? Gongaware?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Grace was an assistant aswell. like others have said there were others that were doing the role of nanny.grace is full of S.... like most of the others who were around mj. lieing about being sacked cause she was to close. frankly she seems obsessed.not surprisinh when u look at her high school comments but of course she blames mj as a way to hit back. some seemed to think they had a god given right to be around mj forever and when that ended they turn into spoilt brats

amir is N.O.I

 

[Vici]

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You mean the childrens nanny yeh?.......but what the heck would she have to do with AEG? michael shouldve been the one to deal with her not AEG

AEG paid Michaels rent and bills if Im not mistaken. Had no idea they were paying his staff wages too.. So I guess they had the right to fire/hire since the money came from them...

 

[Bubs]

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Ok, let me get this right! Kids had 3 nannies, Grace, sister Rose (or what was her name, she was in the house the day MJ passed) and Aileen (although Aileen was their teacher that travelled with them). I know for sure, both Grace and Aileen were in the picture when MJ was in Ireland.

Grace was fired by Michael, Tohme and AEG..... anyone else fired her too?

Maybe Grace got the booth because Michael had an assistant (that Amir guy) already and she was doing nothing useful?

 

[shelly_webster]

Here it is Michael who has had fired her:
Grace told Daphne: "I took these babies in my arms on the first day of each of their lives. They are MY babies."
Grace claims she was sacked by Jackson because she was getting too close to the children but had fully expected to be reinstated soon.
She said he routinely fired her then begged her to return as he was unable to look after himself never mind the three children.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...-Rwaramba.html


Here it was Tohmé who has fired her:
She tells Barak how she was fired last spring on a Sunday morning by telephone. The nanny says “the guy”’presumably Tohme Tohme’”terminated” her by offering her a “ridiculous” salary.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2009/07/10/20090710grace-rwaramba-nanny-daphne-barak-interview


and now is it the hard-hearted AEG (in persona of P. Gongaware) who has fired her?
If there is really such e-mail then I ask me why Grace has accepted it, because her contract was with Michael, not with AEG.


only btw....
The nanny after Grace was an aunt from Michael Amir.... "Brother Michael" how Murray called him in his LAPD-interview.
"Brother" from whom or from what brotherhood?
Who does find her? Amir? Tohmé? Gongaware?

She told the cops she was fired bye AEG. Both could be true: maybe he asked AEG to fire her.

 

[Big Apple2]

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All of these "leaks" just show how desperate the Jackson are. Especially Randy Jackson, who I believe is the ringleader. I also believe he is the person who is calling the shots.

That being said, what I'm really interested in reading is the DEPOSITIONS from certain Jackson family members, namely, Randy, Janet, and Jermaine.

I don't think AEG will stoop to their level, but in a way, I wish that they would. I certainly wouldn't be mad at them for "leaking" those depositions. (LOL) I have a feeling that there are things within those deposition pages that have certain family members scared to death. I only wish we had access to those documents.

 

[jaydom7]

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I agree Big Apple!


I think the family is scared to do depositions. Randy has already said AEG was harrassing the family and blaming Katherine for MJ's death. If anything if AEG was not taking care of MJ and knew he was ill, where exactly was MJ's family at to help him? Why weren't they looking out for his health and safety?

 

[Big Apple2]

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Why weren't they looking out for his health and safety?

The ONLY thing they were looking for was a way and/or ways to be a part of those O2 dates. And when I say THEY, I'm talking about Mother, Joseph and the brothers.

I remember Tito with a huge grin on is face saying as clear as day that he "hoped Michael would invite the brothers to join him on stage." Which leads me to believe that at the behest of her cubs, it was Mother's job to BEG Michael to allow his brothers to be a part of some of those dates. With her usual "I want to see my sons on stage together one more time."

"Mother PLEASE ask Michael, if you ask him maybe he will say yes." I dang near positive it went something like that.

The poor man was being pressured by his own family, way before AEG came into the picture! And I bet some of those pressures will be presented in the depositions of certain family members. I remember Randy Jackson speaking about the "embarrassing" questions being asked of his family during their depositions.

 

[Petrarose]

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So 3 people fired Grace? This reminds me of when you try to kill an insect and think it is dead, it gets up again, and you have to give it 2 more bangs to really kill it. Maybe Grace is someone like that.

^^ Didn't Tito ask for his deposition to be sealed? It seemed that AEG asked the boys a lot of financial questions, like who paid for XYZ and they did not like it. I wonder if they ever got to finish Randy's. I am waiting for Mann's deposition too. The coming weeks should be interesting.

 

[Big Apple2]

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^^ Didn't Tito ask for his deposition to be sealed? It seemed that AEG asked the boys a lot of financial questions, like who paid for XYZ and they did not like it. I wonder if they ever got to finish Randy's. I am waiting for Mann's deposition too. The coming weeks should be interesting.

Interesting indeed!

Speaking of Randy, I was just wondering if any deposition questions were in regard to that whole Stabler lawsuit. The one wherein Randy took Stabler's side. Man I hope they asked him about that and if they did, I bet he was one pissed Mommy Napper.

As to Tito's deposition, at first I read that it was sealed. Then I read somewhere else that it wasn't sealed. So I have no idea, maybe ivy knows for sure.

 

[jaydom7]

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I guess when Randy convinced his mother to file this suit, he thought it would be easy and that AEG would not defend themselves. They need to be asked questions because they along with Katherine were pressuring MJ as well to tour with them on that family tour. As soon as MJ got back from Bahrain his family was doing 'concertventions' and they know it. Let's see if they tell the truth under oath.

 

[Big Apple2]

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I guess when Randy convinced his mother to file this suit, he thought it would be easy and that AEG would not defend themselves. They need to be asked questions because they along with Katherine were pressuring MJ as well to tour with them on that family tour. As soon as MJ got back from Bahrain his family was doing 'concertventions' and they know it. Let's see if they tell the truth under oath.

Yeah, I'm sure Randy in his infinite wisdom "thought" that AEG would just cut them a huge check to make the entire thing go away. But like that lady from Radar said, i.e. "AEG plans to fight this lawsuit vigorously."

And if they try and lie about the "concertventions," AEG will just roll the videotape playback. That being Miss Janet's numerous television interviews wherein she said time and time again that "everybody was on board, except for one person, but they were still working on that person."

They can also call Leonard Rowe to the stand, doesn't he mention a scene in Las Vegas regarding Michael, the brothers and Miss Janet?

Not to mention Jermaine saying, every two seconds to anybody who would listen to him, "The Jackson 5 are going on tour again." So he will either have to say that he was lying or that Michael agreed to go on tour with them.

 

[marc_vivien]

[h=1]Is Promoter AEG Responsible For Michael Jackson's Death?[/h]
Concert Promoter AEG is on the defensive after the Los Angeles Times recently published confidential emails about AEG’s role in Michael Jackson’s final days. The New York Daily News revealed more of the emails in a second article this weekend.
Together, the emails paint a picture of AEG demanding that the concert tour go on, despite knowing the extremely fragile state Michael Jackson was in at the time.
But what does it all mean, legally? Should AEG be found liable for Michael Jackson’s death?
Katherine Jackson and other family members sued AEG, blaming them for controlling and failing to supervise Dr. Conrad Murray, thereby causing Jackson’s death. AEG denies it controlled or supervised Murray at all. They say he was Jackson’s personal physician and he alone was responsible.
Whether that’s true or not, AEG was clearly involved in some manner. The Daily News revealed the most telling of the emails that have been publicly disclosed so far, about AEG’s role in Jackson’s final days:

Kenny Ortega sent a panicked email in the predawn hours of June 20, 2009, telling promoter Randy Phillips, the head of AEG Live, that Jackson appeared too “weak and fatigued” to rehearse the previous night, “trembling, rambling and obsessing” to the point Ortega recommended a psychological exam.
When Phillips didn’t immediately address his fears, Ortega fired off another email 11 hours later, the Daily News has learned.
“I honestly felt if I had encouraged or allowed him on stage last night he could have hurt himself,” Ortega wrote to Phillips in the confidential 1:20 p.m. missive obtained by The News.
Phillips responded within the hour, shooting down Ortega’s concerns with even more force than formerly exposed. “It is critical that neither you, me, or anyone around this show become amateur psychiatrists or physicians,” he wrote, adding that he was in touch with Jackson’s personal doctor, Conrad Murray, and had gained “immense respect” for the cardiologist who would later go to jail for involuntary manslaughter.
“(Murray) said that Michael is not only physically equipped to perform (but) that discouraging him to (perform) will hasten his decline instead of stopping it,” Phillips said.
“You cannot imagine the harm and ramifications of stopping the show now,” he wrote. “It would far outweigh ‘calling this game in the 7th inning.’ I am not just talking about AEG’s interests here, but the myriad of stuff and lawsuits swirling around MJ that I crisis manage every day and also his well-being.”
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Among those revealed by the Times include Phillips’ accounts of Jackson as a “emotionally paralyzed mess riddled with self loathing and doubt.” Yet he also wrote that if Jackson did not deliver, “financial disaster awaits.”



You can read the full Daily News article here and the LA Times’ article here.
AEG says the emails paint an incomplete picture and they are only a select few out of hundreds of thousands of pages of documents produced in the court case. The company’s lawyers have actually gone on the offensive, attacking the Jackson family and blaming them for leaking these confidential emails to the media when court orders prohibited it.
Katherine Jackson and her legal team denied it. Instead, businessman Howard Mann — a business partner of Katherine Jackson — claimed responsibility for disclosing the emails to the media. He says he gathered them from a number of sources, including the Dr. Conrad Murray trial, not from Katherine Jackson. Interestingly, Howard Mann recently agreed to pay $2.5 million to the Michael Jackson Estate to settle a lawsuit against him and his companies for copyright violations.
AEG’s legal team isn’t buying that Mann is solely to blame. They claim he is nothing but an intermediary and the public revelation of the emails is a desperate reaction by the Jackson family to the realization that they are losing. AEG’s attorney said, “After months of discovery, plaintiffs now know what we have known all along — there is nothing to support their claims.”
The Jackson legal team disagrees. They claim to have even more damaging emails and feel very confident in their case against AEG.
Ultimately, the judge hearing the case will have to decide whether there is enough evidence to justify submitting the case to the jury. These emails would make for a very compelling case in front of a jury, but getting that far is the big question.
Knowing of Jackson’s condition and encouraging him to perform is not the same as being legally responsible for his death. Plus, as AEG attorneys point out, Phillips and others involved observed Michael giving strong rehearsal performances and were assured by Dr. Murray that he was able to perform.
Dr. Murray clearly was the central figure. The LA Times article reports that AEG never paid Dr. Murray, and while Jackson insisted that AEG pay Dr. Murray $150,000 per month to take care of Jackson, Dr. Murray’s contract was apparently not signed by the time Jackson died. So AEG may not be responsible for Dr. Murray’s actions.
But AEG could still be liable, at least in part, if the Jackson family can convince the judge that AEG controlled and pushed Dr. Murray into getting Jackson ready to perform at all costs. The publicly-revealed emails may not be enough to accomplish that. For example, there is no mention of Dr. Murray’s propofol treatment. Refusing to cancel a show is not the same as being responsible for Jackson’s death.
Where AEG is really in trouble is with the $17.5 million lawsuit by insurer Lloyds of London, which issued an insurance policy to protect AEG in case Jackson could not perform. Lloyds claims that AEG didn’t fully disclose Jackson’s medical condition in taking out the policy, and these emails certainly suggest that AEG knew more than it told Lloyds.
What do you think? Should AEG be forced to pay for contributing to the death of Michael Jackson?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/trialan...r-aeg-responsible-for-michael-jacksons-death/

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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i think ivy said titios wasnt sealed as at first she thought it was but was mistaken.
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I don't think AEG will stoop to their level, but in a way, I wish that they would. I certainly wouldn't be mad at them for "leaking" those depositions. (LOL) I have a feeling that there are things within those deposition pages that have certain family members scared to death. I only wish we had access to those documents
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i wish they would. everyone but mj always seems to get protected.

 

[Bubs]

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i wish they would. everyone but mj always seems to get protected.

Agreed, Michael shouldn't be the used as garbage. The whole family should feel in first hand how doesn't feel to in the receiving end. If AEG hits them, I honestly hope they hit them HARD. I'm That angry with Jackson's.

 

[Big Apple2]

Dr. Murray clearly was the central figure. The LA Times article reports that AEG never paid Dr. Murray, and while Jackson insisted that AEG pay Dr. Murray $150,000 per month to take care of Jackson, Dr. Murray’s contract was apparently not signed by the time Jackson died. So AEG may not be responsible for Dr. Murray’s actions.

One more thing that gets overlooked ALL THE TIME, is the fact that Murray had a doctor-patient relationship with Michael way before AEG came on the scene.

If I recall correctly, one of Mother's claims is that AEG "handpicked" Murray to be Michael's doctor. We now know that claim is totally false.

We also know from trial testimony, it would appear that AEG didn't want to hire Murray at all, because he was asking for too much money. It was Michael who wanted Murray to be a part of the team. I'm sure that Murray's tall tales of how he helped the old timers in the poor communities won Michael's heart. Michael being so free hearted and giving, most likely thought Murray was like that also.

 

[Victory22]

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I hope we get some leaks cause I want to see what the cubs have been up to.

 

[Bubs]

"But AEG could still be liable, at least in part, if the Jackson family can convince the judge that AEG controlled and pushed Dr. Murray into getting Jackson ready to perform at all costs. The publicly-revealed emails may not be enough to accomplish that. For example, there is no mention of Dr. Murray’s propofol treatment. Refusing to cancel a show is not the same as being responsible for Jackson’s death."

I think this is the part when Jackson's are in trouble with their claim.
AEG wasn't aware of Murray's propofol treatment, that was all Murray's own initiative to pump Michael up with all sort of meds so he can sleep and go own tour.

 

[shelly_webster]

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Was it one of their"intervention"? lol


Jackson Five 'could tour in 2008'
Jackson Five
The band's hits include ABC and I Want You Back
The Jackson Five are to reunite for a tour, with Michael Jackson set to take part, brother Jermaine has said.

He told BBC 6 Music that concert dates have been discussed and could take place "sometime in 2008".

"Michael will be involved," the singer and guitarist confirmed. "We feel we have to do it one more time. We owe that to the fans and to the public. "

The group last toured as The Jacksons - with six members - in support of the Victory album in 1984.

Lead singer Michael, who had already released the million-selling Thriller album, was reportedly reluctant to go on the road with his brothers.

He told the audience on the last night of the tour that he was leaving the group.


Michael Jackson in concert
Michael will be involved - he was at the meetings
Jermaine Jackson
They released one more album, 1989's 2300 Jackson Street, before formally disbanding in 1990.

Rumours of a reunion have circulated for years, and Jermaine confirmed that the project was delayed by Michael's trial for child abuse in 2005.

"There's been so much going on, getting over all the hurdles that we all were faced with during Michael's trial," he told the station's The Music Week programme.

"But we are stronger than ever. I'm gonna say thank you, thank you, thank you so much to all the fans and the supporters of my family all over Europe, all over the UK especially, who came out to show their love and their support."

New material

Jermaine, who sang lead vocals for the band until his younger brother took over, added that Michael would definitely be part of the reunion.

"He has to be," he said. "He is a Jackson."

"He was at the meetings. Michael will be involved."

The star also hinted at new material, saying that the band was "in the studio at the moment".

The Jacksons - featuring brothers Tito, Marlon, Jackie, Jermaine, Michael and Randy, found fame in the 1970s with hits such as I Want You Back, ABC and Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground) and Can You Feel It.

Michael's success eclipsed that of his brothers in the 1980s, while sister Janet also rose to prominence - racking up seven US top ten singles from her Rhythm Nation 1814 album.

In the UK, Jermaine Jackson was seen as a contestant on this year's Celebrity Big Brother.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7113211.stm

 

[Big Apple2]

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"He was at the meetings. Michael will be involved."[/b]

Yeah, what meeting! The one wherein they bum-rushed into Michael's Las Vegas crib trying to strong-arm him into joining the entire family on stage. All of them acting like they don't know what the word NO means.

I said it before, and I'll say it again: ALL of those interviews wherein certain members of the family were talking half-truths and right out lies are coming back to bite them all on the butt.

 

[Bonnie Blue]

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I'm not convinced that the jacksons are going to come off worse than mj is from this trial - we all know what target the media is going to concentrate on, and in any case regarding public perceptions, more people believe the earth is flat than the jacksons = the waltons so there's not going to be much shock there.

I just think the trial is going to destroy the one positive narrative which happened after 25 june. I felt the this is it film released after mj's death was a huge pr triumph, it reminded the world what a consummate professional mj was in how he was involved in all aspects of the production and how his dancing was as effortless as ever and the whole film displayed his charisma. TII cd be presented as a massive confirmation of mj's star power and how he was still the biggest attraction in the pop world despite being written off by the media. But i just think this trial cd destroy this last image of him - preparing for a triumphant comeback as glimpsed in the biggest grossing documentary of all time - and instead paint him as a washed-up, paralysed mess whose professional life was over. Which image do you think mj, so proud and so conscious of his mythology, would want to project to the public for his last days? We know what killed mj from the murray trial, this trial is unwinnable so there's no purpose to it except as this opportunity for the media to destroy the notion that mj at the end of his life could perform a comeback. It's shameful that no one seems to be making these arguments to mrs j.