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Beat It and MITM - different concert?

It sounds like the MITM performance on the CD is different from the snippet that leaked a few months ago, the way MJ goes "AAOW" just before the song starts and also the synth is different at "my favourite wintercoat" it sounds like a "grace note" not just a simple chord there. I'm told that the original snippet was leaked as July 16th :S. Has anybody checked if the MITM in the video is the same?
 
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The missing ad-libs can be found at the begining of "The Way You Make Me Feel".
 
i wonder why beat it has a black microphone, possible thats taken from another date? dont get why he would change throughout the show, surely his other would have been sound checked, levels arranged and sorted, etc etc???
 
yes i have a snippet where Mj does the "AAOW" and then crowd repeats it and MJ gigles a little bit... so funny!!!! but i think i the dvd thats the way it is
 
StellaJackson said:
The DVD is all from the 16th. No cuts and nothing from other dates.
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It is rather interesting that MITM intro doesn't match snippet shared by Birchey for keep the magic campaign in early 2011. Files he shared were clearly labelled and all perfectly match this release apart from MITM.

Filenames of pro snippets he shared -

I'll be there wembley 16-7-88.mp3
Intro Rock with you wembley 16-7-88.mp3
Man in the mirror wembley 16-7-88.mp3
SHe's out of my life wembley 16-7-88 clip.mp3
The way you make me feel clip wembley 15-7-88.mp3

Here you can listen them. Just TWYMMF is mislabelled there as 16th as well.

 
Maybe Man in the mirror was mislabelled as 16th as well.
 
MJJLatvia said:
It is rather interesting that MITM intro doesn't match snippet shared by Birchey for keep the magic campaign in early 2011. Files he shared were clearly labelled and all perfectly match this release apart from MITM.

Filenames of pro snippets he shared -

I'll be there wembley 16-7-88.mp3
Intro Rock with you wembley 16-7-88.mp3
Man in the mirror wembley 16-7-88.mp3
SHe's out of my life wembley 16-7-88 clip.mp3
The way you make me feel clip wembley 15-7-88.mp3

Here you can listen them. Just TWYMMF is mislabelled there as 16th as well.
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Then the Birchey snippet of MITM is not from the 16th. Also, note that Michael acknowledges the presence of Charles and Diana in the 16th footage and audio, hence it must be from the correct date.
 
MJJLatvia said:
It is rather interesting that MITM intro doesn't match snippet shared by Birchey for keep the magic campaign in early 2011. Files he shared were clearly labelled and all perfectly match this release apart from MITM.

Filenames of pro snippets he shared -

I'll be there wembley 16-7-88.mp3
Intro Rock with you wembley 16-7-88.mp3
Man in the mirror wembley 16-7-88.mp3
SHe's out of my life wembley 16-7-88 clip.mp3
The way you make me feel clip wembley 15-7-88.mp3

Here you can listen them. Just TWYMMF is mislabelled there as 16th as well.
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I was just lazy to say that TWYMMF is from 15th, lol. No mislabelling!
 
Awwos are not indication that is from other night. its multi track and they can be edited and put where ever they want. Or the Birchey files are wrong date.
the black mic in Beat it is just he got black one backstage. the silver is on the stand on stage. thats what i think.
 
I think they're all the same concert. There is a hot pixel that appears in the "manned" camera angle from the right side of the stage. If it was different concerts they would likely change this camera as it's a cameraman filming not a mechanical crane. It appears in Beat It, Billie Jean and MITM. I think he switched mics right after WDAN and then the silver mic was then attached to the stand for Billie Jean to start.

At the beginning MJ was also signalling something, this could have meant the band to be louder or maybe he wanted the mic louder. The latter would make sense in that he didn't perform with silver mic for Beat It and the silver mic's volume may be imbalanced.
 
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nvm about the hot pixel thing it's also in July 15, but I think Beat It during that concert was performed with a silver mic.
 
is dirty diana from the 15th? Because he cutted the song in respect for lady diana..?
Saw the concert since the 14th of September, like 20 times now!
 
Dirty Diana IS performed in the 16th. I think that's already approved by most of the fans.
 
mano said:
is dirty diana from the 15th? Because he cutted the song in respect for lady diana..?
Saw the concert since the 14th of September, like 20 times now!
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No the entire show is July 16th 1988 with the bonus TWYMMF from the 15th
 
mano said:
is dirty diana from the 15th? Because he cutted the song in respect for lady diana..?
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He didn't. Michael said that he did in Private Home Videos doc but maybe he just didn't remember right. He did perform Dirty Diana on July 16th.
 
This is how imagine the whole Dirty Diana and Princess Diana thing went like

Michael: (To his band) ''Ok guys Princess Diana is gonna be at the show tonight so we're gonna take Dirty Diana off the setlist in respect to her''
Band: ''Ok, no problem Mike''
(Later on Michael meets Princess Diana)
Diana: ''Are you gonna perform Dirty Diana?''
Michael: ''No i took it out of the setlist to show you respect''
Diana: ''Please play it, it's one of my favorites''
(After that Michael goes to see his band again)
Michael: ''Allright, change of plan guys. Dirty Diana is back in the setlist
Band: ''Ok Mike''

It was probably as simple as that
 
hmm I looked at July 23 or w/e that amateur concert came from, and MJ uses black mic for Beat It there while WDAN and BJ had a silver mic, so I guess it isn't that unusual he did the same on the 16th.
 
analogue said:
This is how imagine the whole Dirty Diana and Princess Diana thing went like

Michael: (To his band) ''Ok guys Princess Diana is gonna be at the show tonight so we're gonna take Dirty Diana off the setlist in respect to her''
Band: ''Ok, no problem Mike''
(Later on Michael meets Princess Diana)
Diana: ''Are you gonna perform Dirty Diana?''
Michael: ''No i took it out of the setlist to show you respect''
Diana: ''Please play it, it's one of my favorites''
(After that Michael goes to see his band again)
Michael: ''Allright, change of plan guys. Dirty Diana is back in the setlist
Band: ''Ok Mike''

It was probably as simple as that
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He said in the Private Home Movies that it was to late to put Dirty Diana in the show
 
mano said:
He said in the Private Home Movies that it was to late to put Dirty Diana in the show
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Yes but he probably missremembered.
Because people that were there said he DID play it, so..

He could have messed the dates, he had many at the same venue and probably didn't remember well..
 
mano said:
He said in the Private Home Movies that it was to late to put Dirty Diana in the show
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He probably didn't remember it correctly, he did perform DD as you can see on the DVD. Nothing was altered in anyway from the concert that happenned on the 16th.
Because of the meeting with Princess Diana the show started late, so TWYMF got cut.
 
novakev said:
He probably didn't remember it correctly, he did perform DD as you can see on the DVD. Nothing was altered in anyway from the concert that happenned on the 16th.
Because of the meeting with Princess Diana the show started late, so TWYMF got cut.
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Allright thanks for the info!
 
Btw that little clip from the end of MITM from 23rd july (amature) when he is wearing the Bad Jacket is actully from 16th.
I knew it all along :D
 
HappyLeeHL said:
Dirty Diana IS performed in the 16th. I think that's already approved by most of the fans.
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mano said:
is dirty diana from the 15th? Because he cutted the song in respect for lady diana..?
Saw the concert since the 14th of September, like 20 times now!
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Galactus123 said:
He didn't. Michael said that he did in Private Home Videos doc but maybe he just didn't remember right. He did perform Dirty Diana on July 16th.
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mano said:
Thats not true.. Dirty Diana was'nt in the show in respect of lady diana (wich was her favorit song)
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mano said:
He said in the Private Home Movies that it was to late to put Dirty Diana in the show
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novakev said:
He probably didn't remember it correctly, he did perform DD as you can see on the DVD. Nothing was altered in anyway from the concert that happenned on the 16th.
Because of the meeting with Princess Diana the show started late, so TWYMF got cut.
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mano said:
Allright thanks for the info!
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We also have a old UK News article about Dirty Diana being performed for the Royal couple

DirtyDiana_BAD.jpg
 
some of the audio on the DVD is from the 15th for example the aoww in MITM at the start of the reprise and the Whoo in Smooth Criminal just before Michael does the "i don't know" is there anymore from the 15th?
 
Zakk said:
some of the audio on the DVD is from the 15th for example the aoww in MITM at the start of the reprise and the Whoo in Smooth Criminal just before Michael does the "i don't know" is there anymore from the 15th?
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Nonsense.
 
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