Lucilla
Proud Member
I love the X-Files :wub2:
don't confuse your truth with the truth.
THE BLIND MEN AND THE ELEPHANT
It was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind.
The First approach'd the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
"God bless me! but the Elephant
Is very like a wall!"
The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried, -"Ho! what have we here
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me 'tis mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a spear!"
The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up and spake:
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a snake!"
The Fourth reached out his eager hand,
And felt about the knee.
"What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain," quoth he,
"'Tis clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a tree!"
The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: "E'en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can,
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a fan!"
The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Then, seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope,
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a rope!"
*So these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!
MORAL.
So oft in theologic wars,
The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean,
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen!
But the funniest part is that believers believe it's Michael Jackson on those tracks when clearly it's not
It's funny how everyone assumes that Michael's work would "bore" his children. It's pretty well known that they (especially Paris) were his shadow, and it's quite obvious that at the very least Paris was very interested in his work.
Michael sang to his children probably from the womb. He used to make tapes of his voice and get Debbie to put headphones around her stomach while she was pregnant. Yet they can't recognise his voice on 12 crystal clear recordings. Neither can at the very least half of his fan base. Why?
is that a get back just for get back's sake?"But the funniest part is that doubters believe it's not Michael Jackson on those tracks when clearly it is "
"But the funniest part is that doubters believe it's not Michael Jackson on those tracks when clearly it is "
Funny how they prefer NOT to release the 9 remaining supposed MJ songs rather than releasing their proof with the songs.
We may not be any closer to the truth, but at least we have the fact that Branca personally assured the fans that the remaining tracks won't be released. If anything, that's progress and a small victory.
We also now know that the songs were being worked on as late as June 2009 without Michael's vocals on them. Now this doesn't exactly knock the believers theory out of the park, but it surely doesn't strengthen it.
I read your emails and I didn't get that from him. He seemed pretty non-commital to give any real opinion. He was mostly theorising. He definitely didn't say "there is no way they would have given him MJ's actual vocals, for fear of leaks", so you might want to read your correspondence with him a bit more closely. He said that was a possible reason why he heard no MJ vocals. He originally was under the impression that MJ might have recorded the vocals in June 2009!Uh, the man thanks to whom we even know this -- sound engineer Angelo Montrone -- for his part believes the songs are authentic, and says that there is no way they would have given him MJ's actual vocals, for fear of leaks.
It's progress in the sense that Branca and McClain are listening to the fans on this matter.
I read your emails and I didn't get that from him. He seemed pretty non-commital to give any real opinion. He was mostly theorising. He definitely didn't say "there is no way they would have given him MJ's actual vocals, for fear of leaks", so you might want to read your correspondence with him a bit more closely. He said that was a possible reason why he heard no MJ vocals. He originally was under the impression that MJ might have recorded the vocals in June 2009!
So as I said... doesn't knock the believers theory out of the park, but surely doesn't help.
Which you posted for everyone to read, so we all have as good idea as you do. And as it turns out, maybe even a better idea lol.Yeah, what do I know about what he said, I was only the person who had the conversation with him!
Yeah, what do I know about what he said, I was only the person who had the conversation with him!
"It made sense to me on a high profile project like this that they wouldn't send a track of MJ doing a rough because they'd be concerned about his vocal being leaked."
The way the anti-Cascio people refer to themselves as "the fans" is, well, annoying, but I'll let it pass.
By the way, here is a bit of disappointing news that ought to put things in perspective when the anti-Cascio people overestimate their numbers. I hear the new Bad 25 CD -- a very good product, as far as I'm concerned -- only moved 20 000 copies in its first week. So basically, that means there are now 20 000 hard-core MJ fans in the US. So even if 100 % of you had chosen not to buy the "Michael" album because of the controversy, that would have meant sales of 3 million copies minus 20 000. So the relative failure of that album had nothing to do with the small number of hardcore fans who even care about this issue.
Actually, 3 millions in sales is looking more and more like a huge success, compared to the sales we're seeing now...
Uh, the man thanks to whom we even know this -- sound engineer Angelo Montrone -- for his part believes the songs are authentic, and says that there is no way they would have given him MJ's actual vocals, for fear of leaks.
The way the anti-Cascio people refer to themselves as "the fans" is, well, annoying, but I'll let it pass.
By the way, here is a bit of disappointing news that ought to put things in perspective when the anti-Cascio people overestimate their numbers. I hear the new Bad 25 CD -- a very good product, as far as I'm concerned -- only moved 20 000 copies in its first week. So basically, that means there are now 20 000 hard-core MJ fans in the US. So even if 100 % of you had chosen not to buy the "Michael" album because of the controversy, that would have meant sales of 3 million copies minus 20 000. So the relative failure of that album had nothing to do with the small number of hardcore fans who even care about this issue.
Actually, 3 millions in sales is looking more and more like a huge success, compared to the sales we're seeing now...
Yeah, what do I know about what he said, I was only the person who had the conversation with him!
"It made sense to me on a high profile project like this that they wouldn't send a track of MJ doing a rough because they'd be concerned about his vocal being leaked."
We are not conspiracy theorists.
Let's first wait until we know for sure what we want to know.Like I've said before, and I use the words "conspiracy theory" in the most neutral, unpejorative way possible : if the songs are indeed fake, then a conspiracy has indeed taken place. The conspiracy involves Eddie Cascio, James Porte and the impersonator, and at least a number of their significant others. Other people like Teddy Riley or even Roger Friedman might also be involved. All of those people have conspired to hatch out a scheme, carried out the scheme, and kept a vow of silence over it ever since. That is the very definition of a conspiracy.
And don't retort, "well the believers also then are conspiracy theorists". We hold that nothing illegal or inappropriate took place, and that the events really went down according to the official version.