Zakk
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- Jan 28, 2012
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My Message to them;
"Dear PRG-Nocturne,
Good Afternoon. As you may have been asked many times before by fans wanting information on these shows. I'm gonna keep it respectful and not request anything that you can not produce. with the recent release of Michael Jackson's Bad 25 Album and Coinciding 1988 BAD World Tour, the estate produced a statement describing the loss of these HIStoric Films & Masters of this Record Breaking Tour. I would just like to ask you if you filmed in Standard Definition or Film (8mm - 70mm) and why the estate could not get the rights or find these shows and produce a possible Blu-Ray. I know as a fan, it's hard to get a VHS after waiting so long for this Tour to be shown to us but if you could give me any insight and give me hope of a possible 1988 BAD Tour Blu-Ray in the future, it would be much appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Zakk James Joseph Bates."
Their Reply;
"All footage shot and recorded for all of our artists remains the exclusive property of these artists with all content turned over to the artist at the conclusion of the tour. Sorry but Michael's Estate would have all the content."
This along with the email a fan received from the Tours director (Will pecchi);
"Kerry, hello.
We started out in Tokyo with 1 beta cam and soon purchased a 35mm BL 4 and a 16mm camera. Eventually our crew grew to 5 and we shot miles of color neg at shows in Tokyo and Osaka. Moved on to Australia and more shows. I was his DP/director until we came back to the US to regroup for Europe. Several changes happened and I quit the show. A few of our original crew continued, but I departed.
Miles of 35 neg, shows, interviews, moments with MJ, some great stuff. I Have no idea where the footage is now. Rather certain entire UK show was filmed.
Later..bp
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...sb8be39c7.jpeg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...s1fa63bb5.jpeg "
CREDITS TO charismatic
And the Colour Grading Article from Warren Eagles;
"Grading Michael Jackson, By Warren Eagles; My first real grading job was on the Michael Jackson Bad tour in 1988, directed by Patrick Kelly. I was an assistant telecine operator at Visions, located in Soho, London. As an assistant I laced the film, loaded the film cleaner and pressed REC on the 1” VTR. I spent the time in between these duties and lots of my own time observing and learning the nuances of the industry. Visions had 2 senior telecine ops Mark Baugh and Luke Rainey who were both particularly knowledgeable and were an invaluable part of my education. Just watching them grade then asking questions at the right moment was a great way to learn.
The concert was shot on a mixture of 35mm and 16mm film, it seemed at times they were shooting film for fun! The crew filmed 2 nights out of the 5 Wembley stadium gigs, film was also fed from the earlier tour legs in Australia, Japan, and Europe. As an accompanying piece to the concert, an “on the road” documentary was also filmed at the same time. The concert was cut in a 4 machine 1” online edit suit, not offlined. This was before Avid of FCP offline so the alternative would have been a lowband umatic or ¾ edit. As soon as the film came in from the lab we would be transferring it, feeding the footage on to 2 hungry edit suites.
It is still the biggest music project I have ever been involved with in terms of volume of footage. We would load each negative film lab roll onto the Rank MK111 telecine machine then set the counter to a known sync point on the film. So LR 10 would be TC 10:00:00:00. The sync point would be the start mark on the film leader.
There had been a hold up one day at the lab so the pressure was off and Mark said to me “why don’t you jump on the desk and grade a few rolls,” I jumped at it.
I played the film roll into the first song and checked our presets for color and framing. The colorists had set presets based on the different film stock types. Kodak 5248 slightly warmer than the 500ASA variety. I made some small adjustments all looked good and matched the previous work so I rewound the negative slowly to the film leader and then started to record from the Picture Start mark on the leader. To match a shot from a previous camera roll, we had to load that tape, find the shot we wanted to match to, then wipe to it with a vision mixer, no still store back then. The exposure and color balance were adjusted on the fly as the 1’’ VTR was recording. I initially couldn’t adjust the controls quickly enough so found that the exposure was changing during a usable piece of MJ’s performance. This meant we had to stop recording, adjust the shot then pick up the edit on a suitable camera flash or clapperboard. As I became more experienced I leant to change the controls fast enough to keep recording. This type of fly grading was a great way of learning instinctively which way to adjust the joysticks without looking at the Vector scope or Waveform monitor. The key here was consistence as there was to be no final grade. Fly grading is something junior graders don’t do much anymore because film dailies from a TK machine are becoming less frequent. Film is more likely to be transferred to a file then graded. It was a great way to learn how to grade, not just well but quickly.
The single “Another part of me” was cut from some of my early telecine work. The music video was cut from footage shot in London and Paris, that shows you how tight Jackson’s performance was. As far as I know the complete concert and documentary has never been released. A disappointing waste as the film managed to capture Jackson at his peak. Jackson never came into Visions during the project but Frank Dileo, his cigar smoking manager, visited a couple of times."
http://icolorist.com/grading-michael-jackson/
gives me hope that one day we may see this Magical & HIStoric Tour in High Definition (Blu-Ray & Cinema). Please Estate & Sony don't give up the search for these shows.
'Man in the Mirror' BAD Tour 1988 35mm (4K) Film Reel Footage, Taken from the Blu-Ray Release of Michael Jackson's Moonwalker.
[video=youtube;8S0yEEbo7Ts]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0yEEbo7Ts&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
& 'Another Part Of Me' BAD Tour 1988 16 & 35mm (2K & 4K) Film Reel Footage Taken from the upcoming Blu-Ray Release of Michael Jackson: BAD25.
[video=youtube;j6e0JT1qlRo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6e0JT1qlRo&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
2018 BAD Tour 1988-1989 3 Disc Blu-Ray Celebration Package Petition
https://www.change.org/petitions/release-bad-world-tour-new-york-hamburg-los-angeles-on-blu-ray-2018
Petition Promo Video, created by dam2040
[video=youtube;vG1ROzNjL5o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG1ROzNjL5o[/video]
Keep the Magic of the BAD World Tour. If we petition this with our hearts and everything we have, we can make it happen. God bless you all :heart:
UPDATE: Recent Reply from Nocturne Productions;
''New message from Nocturne Productions my message to them; ''so what happened to this footage then? surely it must be somewhere the estate can get access to?'' their reply; ''No idea. Remember that most artists are managed by organizations that may not have realized the value of such footage''
"Dear PRG-Nocturne,
Good Afternoon. As you may have been asked many times before by fans wanting information on these shows. I'm gonna keep it respectful and not request anything that you can not produce. with the recent release of Michael Jackson's Bad 25 Album and Coinciding 1988 BAD World Tour, the estate produced a statement describing the loss of these HIStoric Films & Masters of this Record Breaking Tour. I would just like to ask you if you filmed in Standard Definition or Film (8mm - 70mm) and why the estate could not get the rights or find these shows and produce a possible Blu-Ray. I know as a fan, it's hard to get a VHS after waiting so long for this Tour to be shown to us but if you could give me any insight and give me hope of a possible 1988 BAD Tour Blu-Ray in the future, it would be much appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Zakk James Joseph Bates."
Their Reply;
"All footage shot and recorded for all of our artists remains the exclusive property of these artists with all content turned over to the artist at the conclusion of the tour. Sorry but Michael's Estate would have all the content."
This along with the email a fan received from the Tours director (Will pecchi);
"Kerry, hello.
We started out in Tokyo with 1 beta cam and soon purchased a 35mm BL 4 and a 16mm camera. Eventually our crew grew to 5 and we shot miles of color neg at shows in Tokyo and Osaka. Moved on to Australia and more shows. I was his DP/director until we came back to the US to regroup for Europe. Several changes happened and I quit the show. A few of our original crew continued, but I departed.
Miles of 35 neg, shows, interviews, moments with MJ, some great stuff. I Have no idea where the footage is now. Rather certain entire UK show was filmed.
Later..bp
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...sb8be39c7.jpeg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...s1fa63bb5.jpeg "
CREDITS TO charismatic
And the Colour Grading Article from Warren Eagles;
"Grading Michael Jackson, By Warren Eagles; My first real grading job was on the Michael Jackson Bad tour in 1988, directed by Patrick Kelly. I was an assistant telecine operator at Visions, located in Soho, London. As an assistant I laced the film, loaded the film cleaner and pressed REC on the 1” VTR. I spent the time in between these duties and lots of my own time observing and learning the nuances of the industry. Visions had 2 senior telecine ops Mark Baugh and Luke Rainey who were both particularly knowledgeable and were an invaluable part of my education. Just watching them grade then asking questions at the right moment was a great way to learn.
The concert was shot on a mixture of 35mm and 16mm film, it seemed at times they were shooting film for fun! The crew filmed 2 nights out of the 5 Wembley stadium gigs, film was also fed from the earlier tour legs in Australia, Japan, and Europe. As an accompanying piece to the concert, an “on the road” documentary was also filmed at the same time. The concert was cut in a 4 machine 1” online edit suit, not offlined. This was before Avid of FCP offline so the alternative would have been a lowband umatic or ¾ edit. As soon as the film came in from the lab we would be transferring it, feeding the footage on to 2 hungry edit suites.
It is still the biggest music project I have ever been involved with in terms of volume of footage. We would load each negative film lab roll onto the Rank MK111 telecine machine then set the counter to a known sync point on the film. So LR 10 would be TC 10:00:00:00. The sync point would be the start mark on the film leader.
There had been a hold up one day at the lab so the pressure was off and Mark said to me “why don’t you jump on the desk and grade a few rolls,” I jumped at it.
I played the film roll into the first song and checked our presets for color and framing. The colorists had set presets based on the different film stock types. Kodak 5248 slightly warmer than the 500ASA variety. I made some small adjustments all looked good and matched the previous work so I rewound the negative slowly to the film leader and then started to record from the Picture Start mark on the leader. To match a shot from a previous camera roll, we had to load that tape, find the shot we wanted to match to, then wipe to it with a vision mixer, no still store back then. The exposure and color balance were adjusted on the fly as the 1’’ VTR was recording. I initially couldn’t adjust the controls quickly enough so found that the exposure was changing during a usable piece of MJ’s performance. This meant we had to stop recording, adjust the shot then pick up the edit on a suitable camera flash or clapperboard. As I became more experienced I leant to change the controls fast enough to keep recording. This type of fly grading was a great way of learning instinctively which way to adjust the joysticks without looking at the Vector scope or Waveform monitor. The key here was consistence as there was to be no final grade. Fly grading is something junior graders don’t do much anymore because film dailies from a TK machine are becoming less frequent. Film is more likely to be transferred to a file then graded. It was a great way to learn how to grade, not just well but quickly.
The single “Another part of me” was cut from some of my early telecine work. The music video was cut from footage shot in London and Paris, that shows you how tight Jackson’s performance was. As far as I know the complete concert and documentary has never been released. A disappointing waste as the film managed to capture Jackson at his peak. Jackson never came into Visions during the project but Frank Dileo, his cigar smoking manager, visited a couple of times."
http://icolorist.com/grading-michael-jackson/
gives me hope that one day we may see this Magical & HIStoric Tour in High Definition (Blu-Ray & Cinema). Please Estate & Sony don't give up the search for these shows.
'Man in the Mirror' BAD Tour 1988 35mm (4K) Film Reel Footage, Taken from the Blu-Ray Release of Michael Jackson's Moonwalker.
[video=youtube;8S0yEEbo7Ts]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0yEEbo7Ts&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
& 'Another Part Of Me' BAD Tour 1988 16 & 35mm (2K & 4K) Film Reel Footage Taken from the upcoming Blu-Ray Release of Michael Jackson: BAD25.
[video=youtube;j6e0JT1qlRo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6e0JT1qlRo&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
2018 BAD Tour 1988-1989 3 Disc Blu-Ray Celebration Package Petition
https://www.change.org/petitions/release-bad-world-tour-new-york-hamburg-los-angeles-on-blu-ray-2018
Petition Promo Video, created by dam2040
[video=youtube;vG1ROzNjL5o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG1ROzNjL5o[/video]
Keep the Magic of the BAD World Tour. If we petition this with our hearts and everything we have, we can make it happen. God bless you all :heart:
UPDATE: Recent Reply from Nocturne Productions;
''New message from Nocturne Productions my message to them; ''so what happened to this footage then? surely it must be somewhere the estate can get access to?'' their reply; ''No idea. Remember that most artists are managed by organizations that may not have realized the value of such footage''
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