Paris Jackson Rushed to Hospital After Possible Suicide Attempt

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^^Then they would not want Grace back in the house. I think Katherine likes Grace. Maybe one of the children influenced Grace departure. Remember Rebbie moved in when the children came to help out. Rebbie & Grace together? I don't know sounds like fireworks......
 
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I always thought she was already gone before the stun gun thing. And somehow found out about it then called DCFS
 
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I believe Grace is a part of the Nation of Islam.

Recently she said something on her FB about Christ being her rock, so I doubt that.
 
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Grace is a JW. That whole NOI jazz was someone else we talked about in this thread trying to make noise
 
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At a certain point he cut everyone off except his mother, who rarely asked Michael for anything.

LOL pleeease. Mother didn't ask him for anything? Didn't she say in her deposition that Michael was giving her cash whenever she visited him? Not to mention various deals she very often had for him on behalf of the family etc.
 
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I remember reading an article ages ago, shortly after they moved to the new place, it was an interview with Katherine and the piece starts off describing the place and then they mention something about Katherine's section of the house and it sounded like she lived almost separately. I can't remember where the article was from I'm afraid but it struck me as odd at the time.
 
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I remember reading an article ages ago, shortly after they moved to the new place, it was an interview with Katherine and the piece starts off describing the place and then they mention something about Katherine's section of the house and it sounded like she lived almost separately. I can't remember where the article was from I'm afraid but it struck me as odd at the time.

The UK Daily Mail article that launched the Event magazine on 14th April began:

The Jackson family home in the secluded hills above LA is a rented 12,670 sq ft Mediterranean-style villa.......Inside, two large staircases curve away from the marble hallway. On the walls of the 'children's wing' on the second floor are two giant framed portraits of Michael Jackson, and a caricature of him dressed as Peter Pan, surrounded by his three children'.


The article also mentions two nannies, so I guess that one of them may have been in the house at night (It is apparently a 'seven bedroom estate'.).

The article also mentions that Trent Jackson lives in the Estate's guest house.
 
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So Katherine doesn't even live with her? It's awfully sad how it seems like no one wants to be around her or something. She's such a charming kid, i'm not understanding this.

This is why I root for her and Debbie's relationship
 
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I remember reading an article ages ago, shortly after they moved to the new place, it was an interview with Katherine and the piece starts off describing the place and then they mention something about Katherine's section of the house and it sounded like she lived almost separately. I can't remember where the article was from I'm afraid but it struck me as odd at the time.

Yes, I believe Ms. Katherine has her own "wing" in the house. Now I'm not sure, I have never seen the inside of their crib, BUT when you live in a house that big, folks are not right next door to each other.

I figured that it didn't matter that Ms. Katherine was living in her own wing of the house, because TJ was there and he was "probably" the hand's on guardian, more so than Ms. Katherine. Now we find out that TJ doesn't even live in the home. And that's something I STILL don't understand, I mean, how the heck can you keep an eye on your wards, if you are not in the household?

Especially when you are talking about teenagers. We love our teenagers dearly, BUT, as a parent, I can attest to the fact that THEY WILL TRY YOU, if they think you ain't paying attention. LOL!
 
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Like a granny annexe? lol I guess it depends how separate her wing is.

@BigApple2 I have always said that cute little babies should come with a health warning for what happens later.
 
'She’s basically kicking and screaming when the paramedics came, saying, ‘I want to live. I do. I just don’t want to live here. I wish my daddy was here,'' they added.
my heart just broke after reading this
 
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Like a granny annexe? lol I guess it depends how separate her wing is.

A Granny Annex. LOL!

In my opinion a Granny Annex probably worked well when Ms. Katherine was sharing the Hayvenhurst home with Jermaine/Randy's children and woman. It's like although you are living in the same home, it's separate enough so that both parties have the same privacy as if they were living in two SEPARATE homes.

That would be fine in that particular situation, but not, definitely NOT in a situation where you are responsible for 3 MINOR children, especially when 2 of those children are teenagers. I mean check it, you can probably put Blanket to bed at 9:00 and not worry too much, because you know that he's most likely going to go straight to sleep. On the other hand, them dang teenagers just might pull a fast one as soon as you are securely back in your own PRIVATE WING.

Note: it doesn't, by any means, make them bad children, it just confirms that they are teenagers. LOL!
 
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Please do not take things out of context. LMP said he would hang MJ from a tree IF he was a pedophile.
I know that some fans always want to make it a LMP vs. Debbie issue and they praise Debbie all the time because they hate LMP, but this has nothing to do with LMP now.

I also do not think Debbie "saved MJ" in 2005. Just because she didn't go up on the stand and lied about him is that supposed to be "saving him" now for that we should be grateful? Steve Robel said that in a deposition Debbie called Michael a sociopath and said he was a bad father. That's why she was called as a prosecution character witness. Not because she told them nice things about Michael. She turned on the stand and said nice things about Michael, which is good, but she did play games with Michael at the time, which was low IMO.

:yes:
 
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I dont know many fans that buy the mail the times etc. these are supposed to be middle clasd right wing papers yet especially the mail obsess over those kids every move. fans follow the twitters etc. they dont dictate to editors who decide to obsess over which certainly wasnt helped by the family pushing them into the spotlight.

I doubt there's a left-wing, right-wing ideology here in the United States when it comes to the media anymore. Both "wings" will trash MJ anyways.
 
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^^^^ I don't follow Prince and Paris on twitter but I have seen people commenting on how late Paris will tweet stuff, that was a little while ago when she was a bit younger. It kind of struck me that there may not be much guidance.

And then I have to question those rumours we have read in tabloids that the children are being raised by staff, bodyguards and nannies, maybe there is truth to those.
 
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^^Then they would not want Grace back in the house. I think Katherine likes Grace. Maybe one of the children influenced Grace departure. Remember Rebbie moved in when the children came to help out. Rebbie & Grace together? I don't know sounds like fireworks......

I just think what we're seeing--the photos of Grace and Katherine--are part of a plan to have Grace back as nanny to forestall a change in guardianship. Maybe putting those photos out there--and both of them did not look happy--is a way to "float" the idea and put family members on notice. Although Rebbie and Grace do not get along, I think the family would prefer her back in their lives if it preserves Katherine as guardian. The family sure doesn't want to lose custody! So, Grace may be the only option the family has at this point and she's the lesser of two evils. I think they are willing to pay that price and "forget" that whole stun gun incident temporarily.
 
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Do we now if Paris is still at the hospital or has she gone home?

Hope she is OK.
 
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Do we now if Paris is still at the hospital or has she gone home?

Hope she is OK.

She was transferred to UCLA. Seems to be stable and doing OK.
 
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Yes that is a good point. Also they tend to send you back to the medical facility that you generally go to, so if most of her dr's are there they tend to send you there after the emergency period is over. Since she is not going home yet, I am getting the impression that they are taking this seriously now and want continued evaluation.

yes, I agree, it's good news that she is still there, on a voluntary basis.

I agree, bottomline, it's what Paris wants.
Errr ...I'll disagree.. Paris tried to kill herself, she can't think properly at the moment, and that's why she called a suicide hotline. And suicide is a traumatic event for everyone around her. So basically now they have to take care of Paris of course, she will be the main focus, but also Prince and Blanket, and possibly Katherine & Debbie as well, Taj, and nannies, whoever is close to the kids.

So, what is best for Paris is not necessarily what she wants. That's why I said earlier that the "solution" can not come from any of the people that I cited above, it's better for everyone that someone from outside the family, with the experience of teen suicide, deals with it. So basically it's good that it is taken serioulsy from a medical point of view, that the judge got involved and possibly DCFS. They will work on a solution that will hopefully work for everyone. They need to go to the bottom of this, no one wants to read the same thing about Blanket in 3 or 4 years.

I said before I don't want to comment on Paris's reasons to do what she did, and I don't want to point the finger either. I read what you guys write though, and that's interesting, there are good points made.

The only thing I think is safe to say, is that Paris wants her daddy, and probably no one else. I think she was hit harder by his death than the avarage kid who loses a parent. Her dad meant the world to her.
You can see it in the bashit doc, when she was 4 or 5, and wouldn't let go of his hand at the mall and at the hotel. Then someone said at the AEG trial that she had pictures of Michael in her purse, she was 11. Raymone Bain said that she was Michael's nr 1 fan and would buy her dad's cds , she was 8. You don't hear these stories about Prince. It doesn't mean that Prince doesn't love his dad, he does, but he is probably more independant in that regard than Paris.

Then after he died, Paris had all these pictures on her wall. According to the questions Paris answered for the AEG trial, La Toya apparently told her that she would "get to the bottom of who killed her dad", probably entertaining some sort of conspiracy theory. I can understand that it can be a reaction due to the shock of Michael's death, so I don't want to point the finger, but that's not the smartest thing to do to a grieving person, especially a kid, especially Paris. Someone posted earlier tweets from Paris where she was talking about the Illuminati and secret societies & a hidden meaning of "they don't care about us'. This tells me she could have been searching the internet and read theories about her dad's death.
Her last tweet were the lyrics of "yesterday".

Bottomline of what I'm saying, I think she hasn't coped with he dad's death. She's probably still very angry about it, looking for answers. Pain and anger could have been the roots of all sorts of behaviors : being difficult, getting in trouble with people at school, rejecting authority, looking too much for recognition & tweeting too much, wanting to go into showbiz because she practiced acting with Michael, etc..

I don't agree with everything the Jacksons do, far from it, and some of you have good points in this thread, but I don't feel comfortable pointing the finger because dealing with teenagers is hard enough, and a teen in her situation is probably very hard.

But I don't want to end this post on a sad note. If Paris called that hotline, it means she wants to get better. She did not count on anyone else to get help, she did it herself. It tells me she knows she has a problem, she took the steps to deal with it and get the proper help, and now she'e getting it. She's a fighter , Michael did a good job with her, I'm confident she'll recover completely and have a happy life, she'll learn from this experience.
 
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I just think what we're seeing--the photos of Grace and Katherine--are part of a plan to have Grace back as nanny to forestall a change in guardianship. Maybe putting those photos out there--and both of them did not look happy--is a way to "float" the idea and put family members on notice. Although Rebbie and Grace do not get along, I think the family would prefer her back in their lives if it preserves Katherine as guardian. The family sure doesn't want to lose custody! So, Grace may be the only option the family has at this point and she's the lesser of two evils. I think they are willing to pay that price and "forget" that whole stun gun incident temporarily.
At this point I don't think it matters what Rebbie thinks of Grace. Last I heard, after the whole Granny Napping thing, Rebbie is no longer allowed in the home Ms. Katherine shares with Michael's 3-children.

Man, when you just remember back and realize how many things the children have gone through within their OWN family it boggles the mind. So much confusion. TOO MUCH CONFUSION.
 
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Errr ...I'll disagree.. Paris tried to kill herself, she can't think properly at the moment, and that's why she called a suicide hotline. And suicide is a traumatic event for everyone around her. So basically now they have to take care of Paris of course, she will be the main focus, but also Prince and Blanket, and possibly Katherine & Debbie as well, Taj, and nannies, whoever is close to the kids.

Knock it off bouee. LOL! I mean, unless you are a doctor and have examined Paris Jackson in the last hour or so, you have NO idea what or how she is thinking. You're so funny!

Bottomline, THE JUDGE in this case would DEFINITELY be asking Paris what she wants to do. Not saying that the Judge would accept her suggestion, but he would definitely ask and take note of whatever she says.

I'm still wondering if those children ever received any GRIEF COUNSELING. With the Jackson's habit of sweeping everything under the rug, it's really hard to say whether or not their emotional needs were taken care of after their beloved father died.
 
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^^^^What was meant was that Paris should be surrounded by people she wants to be surrounded by, not people forced on her possibly. People she is comfortable with and who she can trust to talk to.
 
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None of us know what she is thinking. And Paris did just try to harm herself so what she says is important but she is not of stable mind right now
 
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Knock it off bouee.
NO !

LOL! I mean, unless you are a doctor and have examined Paris Jackson in the last hour or so, you have NO idea what or how she is thinking. You're so funny!.
Funny ?

Bottomline, THE JUDGE in this case would DEFINITELY be asking Paris what she wants to do. Not saying that the Judge would accept her suggestion, but he would definitely ask and take note of whatever she says.
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YES (that's what I'm saying)
 
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The main issue is why did Paris try to hurt herself. Not who she lives with who she may want to live with why did she do it
 
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The main issue is why did Paris try to hurt herself. Not who she lives with who she may want to live with why did she do it

Actually ALL of the above is "most likely" tied together, in my opinion.
 
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