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Steven Randall is very transparent. If he wants to testify so badly in person he can call Panish and tell him to call him to the stand.
 
As Ortega's testimony concluded Jacksons case in chief, AEG has filed a motion for nonsuit - meaning they are claiming Jacksons did not meet burden of proof and case needs to be dismissed. In the alternative (if the whole nonsuit motion is not granted) , AEG is asking for dismissal of individual defendants - Phillips &Gongaware

I'm going to do a summary later tonight.
 
^^Oh I think that judge will keep it going. She already said the Stones are 70 and still performing, there is an oral contract, and the jury has to interpret the contract and determine hiring. I am sure TMez will say there has been significant proof.

Stella do you think there has been ample proof?
 
Jury hears Michael Jackson’s younger brother discuss drug concerns, intervention attempts
(Nick Ut, File/ Associated Press ) - FILE - In this Jan. 11, 2011 file photo, Randy Jackson, Michael Jackson’s brother, arrives at court for a preliminary hearing regarding Michael Jackson’s death, in Los Angeles. Randy Jackson described his family’s repeated attempts to get his brother Michael to stop taking prescription medications in a videotaped deposition played for a Los Angeles jury on Friday, Aug. 9, 2013. In the footage, Randy Jackson said his brother always denied having a problem with prescription medications.

(Nick Ut, File/ Associated Press ) - FILE - In this Jan. 11, 2011 file photo, Randy Jackson, Michael Jackson’s brother, arrives at court for a preliminary hearing regarding Michael Jackson’s death, in Los Angeles. Randy Jackson described his family’s repeated attempts to get his brother Michael to stop taking prescription medications in a videotaped deposition played for a Los Angeles jury on Friday, Aug. 9, 2013. In the footage, Randy Jackson said his brother always denied having a problem with prescription medications.(Nick Ut, File/ Associated Press ) - FILE - In this Jan. 11, 2011 file photo, Randy Jackson, Michael Jackson’s brother, arrives at court for a preliminary hearing regarding Michael Jackson’s death, in Los Angeles. Randy Jackson described his family’s repeated attempts to get his brother Michael to stop taking prescription medications in a videotaped deposition played for a Los Angeles jury on Friday, Aug. 9, 2013. In the footage, Randy Jackson said his brother always denied having a problem with prescription medications.
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By Associated Press, Updated: Friday, August 9, 9:03 PM
LOS ANGELES — A jury heard videotaped testimony Friday from Randy Jackson, who described more than half a dozen interventions his family attempted to try to get Michael Jackson to stop taking prescription medications.

Randy Jackson, the pop superstar’s younger brother, said several of his siblings were involved in the efforts, and they occasionally brought interventionist doctors to try to convince their brother to go into rehab. The superstar always refused and kept his family at a distance in the final years of his life, Randy Jackson said.


His videotaped testimony was played for jurors by lawyers for AEG Live LLC, which is being sued by Jackson’s mother. She claims the company negligently hired the doctor convicted of giving the “Thriller” singer a lethal overdose of an anesthetic in June 2009.

AEG denies it hired the physician, Conrad Murray, and its attorneys have said Jackson made choices that led to his death. Their case has already featured testimony from several medical professionals who treated the singer, including one who gave him an implant to block the effects of opiate drugs.

Randy Jackson says the interventions took place in diverse locations including New York, Las Vegas, Jackson’s Neverland Ranch and Taiwan and dated back to the mid-1990s.

However, he said he did not talk to his brother much in the five years before his death and was unable to get into his rented mansion during the period before he died because security guards blocked his access.

“Michael didn’t want to be around the family too much because he didn’t want them to see him like that,” Randy Jackson said. “He was hiding from me.”

He said most of the interventions were attended by his sisters Rebbie and Janet and his brothers, Tito, Marlon, and his father, Joe Jackson. But he said his mother only came along once or twice. He said she was unwilling to accept that Michael was addicted and he felt “she was in denial. She just didn’t want to believe.”

Katherine Jackson testified earlier in the trial that she asked her son once about his prescription drug use, but he denied he had a problem.

Randy Jackson said his brother was terrified during the run-up to his 2005 child molestation trial in Santa Maria. At one point Randy Jackson said he had to take his brother to a hospital because “he was under the influence of something.”

He said he had no idea what drugs Jackson was taking.

“He was very frightened, and I had to get him to court,” Randy Jackson said.

Randy Jackson is the third member of his famous family to testify in the case, which concluded its 15th week on Friday. Michael Jackson’s mother and his son Michael Joseph “Prince” Jackson Jr. have also testified.
 
Petrarose said:
Aqarious AEG can use information from the video to question him. They did something similar when they asked Kai if she knew Paris had a birthday party, and they stated where it was held and on what day. Remember Kai had said the day before that Paris did not celebrate her birthday after 09.
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But how can they ask Randy questions if he's not going to be called? AEG is only going to show the video of his deposition, right?

But still, even, as he says, if AEG doesn't want call him, can Panish call him or can AEG call TM? I want the jury to clearly note how sweet Katherine lied to them.
 
He's saying that MJ was addicted, yet had no clue what he was taking??? WTF??

And how was Janet at interventions when she said years ago that she hadn't spoken to MJ in years.. I am hating this family more and more every day

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Aquarius I did not even know that they got through Randy's video today. I see Ivy posted some information above, so I guess they did see Randy's video today? Now from what he said, how is that being there for his brother? Is it that once he realized that AEG already played the video, he then claimed that he wanted to come in person all the time?

How come he had all these interventions and 1 bodyguard only know about a helicopter and the car at the gate. No one yet verified that there were several times when a group of family members came to visit Michael. I am sure they would have to go through the bodyguards.

Jaydom I agree. They all did interventions several times yet did not see him for years. MIchael stayed away because he did not want them to see him that way, when Michel ran away from them since after Thriller.

What was the story Jermaine said in his book about going to the hospital? I am sure what Randy said in that video is not the same thing. Wasn't Michael sick or something. Now Randy claims it was because Michael was on drugs. Anyone remember that part of Jermaine's book about the hospital?
 
Mod note: Although there might be anger and criticism due to some testimony, let's maintain a certain level of behavior. No cursing, no name calling and no violence suggestions for any parties in this trial.
 
Petrarose said:
Aquarius I did not even know that they got through Randy's video today. I see Ivy posted some information above, so I guess they did see Randy's video today? Now from what he said, how is that being there for his brother? Is it that once he realized that AEG already played the video, he then claimed that he wanted to come in person all the time?

How come he had all these interventions and 1 bodyguard only know about a helicopter and the car at the gate. No one yet verified that there were several times when a group of family members came to visit Michael. I am sure they would have to go through the bodyguards.

Jaydom I agree. They all did interventions several times yet did not see him for years. MIchael stayed away because he did not want them to see him that way, when Michel ran away from them since after Thriller.

What was the story Jermaine said in his book about going to the hospital? I am sure what Randy said in that video is not the same thing. Wasn't Michael sick or something. Now Randy claims it was because Michael was on drugs. Anyone remember that part of Jermaine's book about the hospital?
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yeah he knew they played the depo that's why he went to twitter to say he wanted to testify in person and be there for his brother because he knows that deposition was trash and would hurt their case.
 
Gee. Sometimes I am scared to breath in the thread. Is it safe to come out...
 
This has probably been posted already but going through this thread is gonna take forever


They are comparing live concerts with a rehearsal. That's just stupid
 
If Randy went years without seeing MJ, when did these interventions take place? and he has thrown his own mother under the bus saying she was in denial too:busted:
 
Justthefacts said:
Randy has damaged his Mother's case so bad it is not even funny.
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Lord have mercy! he sure did and he's the one that convinced her to bring the case. He is obviously not very bright at all. And also if he went years without seeing his brother like Janet, when did these interventions occur?
 
analogue said:
This has probably been posted already but going through this thread is gonna take forever


They are comparing live concerts with a rehearsal. That's just stupid
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And a rehearsal that is dubbed with the original demo vocals at that.
 
Justthefacts said:
Randy has damaged his Mother's case so bad it is not even funny.
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But we already knew he would do that. It was his idea to push the drug angle and Panish went and got that expert Shemilman who they are now afraid of. So to me the plaintiff will damage their own case. What makes it even more humiliating is that AEG is using the family's own words to harm the case the family wants to win.

Earlier today I looked at the Jackson 5 Live in Mexico and there was Randy on the bongos, just a talented happy teenager. People really change...

Anyone notice that in the video Randy sounds as though he saved his brother, like Jermaine "saving" Michael when he stopped breathing.
 
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Petrarose said:
But we already knew he would do that. It was his idea to push the drug angle and Panish went and got that expert Shemilman who they are now afraid of. So to me the plaintiff will damage their own case. What makes it even more humiliating is that AEG is using the family's own words to harm the case the family wants to win.
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Yep! just a mess
 
Big Apple2 said:
In my opinion, the equipment coming from the back of an ambulance is just for a PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT. The hospital's equipment will give a patient the full and accurate story as to what is actually going on with a person's health.

Case in point, Nurse Lee gave a preliminary assessment but STILL insisted that Michael go to the hospital so that he could get an accurate assessment for his symptoms.

I'm not doubting Michael, but son was human, with human faults. And he should have brought his fine behind to the hospital as was suggested by Nurse Lee.
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I agree with you the bold part.


I really love you last part you got me laugh i know this is not funny i just like the way you said it. He should have brought his fine behind to the hospital. That Michael was.


Does anybody know what cause that one side of your body is cold and the other side is hot?
 
ivy said:
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AEG claims Randy doesn't want to come testify in person; Jacksons say AEG doesn't want him to come in person. What do you think is true?
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The other witness scheduled is Randy Jackson, also via video deposition.
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AEG changed witnesses. They will play video deposition of Dr. Gordon Sasaki, a plastic surgeon of Pasadena, CA.
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Isn't it true that the plaintiffs have rested their case and now it's the defense turn? That means that the plaintiffs had a chance to put Randy on their witness list but chose not to. That means also that the defendants can choose who they want as witnesses and who they don't want as they finally get to present their case after the plaintiff side finished--took them long enough.

So if Randy wanted to 'be there' for his brother--why didn't he ask Panish to put him on the stand?
 
jamba said:
Isn't it true that the plaintiffs have rested their case and now it's the defense turn? That means that the plaintiffs had a chance to put Randy on their witness list but chose not to. That means also that the defendants can choose who they want as witnesses and who they don't want as they finally get to present their case after the plaintiff side finished--took them long enough.

So if Randy wanted to 'be there' for his brother--why didn't he ask Panish to put him on the stand?
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Thank You!! Randy threw his brother under the bus that's what he did. Propofol is not a prescription drug and that's what MJ died from and his doctor killed him.
 
IMO a sibling or another witness is going to have to call Randy out. Where were Jermaine, Jackie and Latoya at these interventions?
 
Personally I don't think Randy was concerned and then went to TMez at all. I think Randy was looking for a way to make money from the death. He must have talked to someone before TMez, and they discussed the fact that since AEG hired Muarry, and Muarry was responsible for Michael's death, then they could sue AEG. I think in the beginning the family thought AEG did hire Muarry in the conventional sense of the word. I think it was only after he mulled over possible ideas that he then approached TMez. Then, he presented those ideas to TMez and TMez arranged this referral. Panish then threw in all these allegations, and the judge threw out most of them. Then to scare AEG Randy took to twitter. When that did not work, he gave Katherine's business partner emails to leak to shame AEG into a settlement. That did not work.

Due to Katherine being a beneficiary, her lawyer must have decided that they put Katherine's name and make it seem that she was the one who decided on the lawsuit. They did not want it to look as though the siblings had anything to do with this case. That is why Katherine pretended that she thought up this lawsuit all on her own.

I am wondering if after Randy's video, they will ask for a third settlement. Maybe Randy's tweets tonight was a threat to force a settlement. He usually tweet before one of his moves.
 
Justthefacts said:
IMO a sibling or another witness is going to have to call Randy out. Where were Jermaine, Jackie and Latoya at these interventions?
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good question.. and maybe Taj, TJ or Tarryl since they were grown men and had a good relationship with their uncle Michael. They talked to MJ a lot more than the siblings did considering Randy has admitted he went years without talking to MJ just like Janet did. I would think 3T would've been a lot more helpful in helping Michael than the siblings.
 
Why would they settle? They are clearly winning this case. He went to Twitter because he knew people were going tut o come at his neck
 
passy001 said:
Frankly I wished this trial could end already.

5 months of MJ mudslinging is a bit too much to the point the Jury had to applaud after KO testimony because his testimony had no such nonsense.
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You are right to much. This courtroom is already out of control. Who know what kind of verdict we will get from this jury.


I have never seen a jury applaud in a trial.
 
I am confused again. I thought the defense already started their case, but Ortega was brought back because he was not finished. So now that the plaintiffs have finished with Ortega, they have officially rested and the defense is going to continue where they left off. Is that really what happened: Write back to confused.
 
Justthefacts said:
Why would they settle? They are clearly winning this case. He went to Twitter because he knew people were going tut o come at his neck
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YEP!!!! he tried to do a mea culpa.. he wanted to be there for his brother yet he threw his brother out to the wolves in that deposition.. when did Randy go to Taiwan for an intervention?
 
Petrarose said:
I am confused again. I thought the defense already started their case, but Ortega was brought back because he was not finished? So now that the plaintiffs have finished with Ortega, they have officially rested and the defense is going to continue where they left off. Is that really what happened: Write back to confused.
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you are correct. Jacksons had called Ortega as their witness and his testimony wasn't finished. So technically Jacksons haven't officially rested. As it will be sometime for Ortega to come back AEG had unofficially started their defense case. When yesterday Ortega came back and finished his testimony , Jacksons case in chief ended. So now they are officially rested and AEG filed motion of nonsuit basically saying that Jacksons were not able to prove their claims and the case should be dismissed. and yes AEG will continue with their defense case.
 
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