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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe
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So he'd buried the EFFECTS of the abuse for decades until Wade came along?
So it was Wade who traumatized him or made him realize he'd been traumatized for decades?
How convenient.
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
The reactions are different this time around. I read much of TMZ and Radar comments last night. Majority of the comments include
- Why didn't they come forward before when he's alive especially during molestation trial?
- Where were their parents?
- Michael is dead.
This is different. Jordie and Gavin were teenagers - public are/were sympathetic to young "victims". Here we have two adults filing 20+ years later claiming they did not know what abuse is until their 30s. That alone causing them be unbelievable. I read comments from real child sexual abuse victims who state while they didn't want to talk about their abuse, they knew it was abuse it was wrong.
Also as Michael is dead it makes everything different too. When anyone does something bad (allegedly) we get angry, we want them to be arrested and sent to prison. We want them punished. Everyone knows that Michael is dead and nothing can be done to him, he cannot be punished. That's another reason why public isn't interested in this anymore. From their perspective so what if Michael was a pedophile or not, he's already dead and that's now a matter of God with heaven or hell.
Plus their previous support of Michael is hurting them. Because as they said both "Michael molested me" and "Michael did not molest me" everyone knows that they lied - either then or now. So when you know a person can and did lie, it becomes harder to trust them. Weitzman had a point in one of the recent filings : In order to believe Robson is telling the truth now you need to believe he lied under oath under threat of perjury in a criminal trial and helped a molester go free. That doesn't help Wade IMO. If a person can lie at such situation, they could pretty much lie anytime.
The reactions are different this time around. I read much of TMZ and Radar comments last night. Majority of the comments include
- Why didn't they come forward before when he's alive especially during molestation trial?
- Where were their parents?
- Michael is dead.
This is different. Jordie and Gavin were teenagers - public are/were sympathetic to young "victims". Here we have two adults filing 20+ years later claiming they did not know what abuse is until their 30s. That alone causing them be unbelievable. I read comments from real child sexual abuse victims who state while they didn't want to talk about their abuse, they knew it was abuse it was wrong.
Also as Michael is dead it makes everything different too. When anyone does something bad (allegedly) we get angry, we want them to be arrested and sent to prison. We want them punished. Everyone knows that Michael is dead and nothing can be done to him, he cannot be punished. That's another reason why public isn't interested in this anymore. From their perspective so what if Michael was a pedophile or not, he's already dead and that's now a matter of God with heaven or hell.
Plus their previous support of Michael is hurting them. Because as they said both "Michael molested me" and "Michael did not molest me" everyone knows that they lied - either then or now. So when you know a person can and did lie, it becomes harder to trust them. Weitzman had a point in one of the recent filings : In order to believe Robson is telling the truth now you need to believe he lied under oath under threat of perjury in a criminal trial and helped a molester go free. That doesn't help Wade IMO. If a person can lie at such situation, they could pretty much lie anytime.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Safechuck claims that Mj showed him videos of children doing sexual things, but child porn was never found in Mj's possession. If there was, make no mistake that MJ would have been arrested in a heart beat as we all know that child pornography is illegal. yet FBI and every investigator imaginable has searched all his homes, computers, videos, etc and found nothing illegal involving children. Wade Robson also claims MJ showed him porn. Safechuck also claims in his documents that he and MJ drank alcohol together. The only time we ever heard of MJ giving children alcohol or showing them pornography is from the Arvizo family, and those claims were proved to be completely bogus by various witnesses as well as the arvizo's lack of credibility and phone records that proved that MJ wasn't even at neverland during the time the acts were supposedly happening. I remember one hilarious moment during the trial where star arvizo claimed that Mj showed him and his brother a certain issue of a playboy magazine, but the date on the magazine revealed that the magazine hadn't even been published when he and his brother were at neverland. So yeah, the verdict was correct. That particular case was nothing more but a scam just like the many other scams this family has pulled. So now that we know the arvizo's claims about drinking alcohol and looking at pornography with MJ were all fabricated, what does that say about Safechuck and Wade's allegations?
Safechuck claims that Mj showed him videos of children doing sexual things, but child porn was never found in Mj's possession. If there was, make no mistake that MJ would have been arrested in a heart beat as we all know that child pornography is illegal. yet FBI and every investigator imaginable has searched all his homes, computers, videos, etc and found nothing illegal involving children. Wade Robson also claims MJ showed him porn. Safechuck also claims in his documents that he and MJ drank alcohol together. The only time we ever heard of MJ giving children alcohol or showing them pornography is from the Arvizo family, and those claims were proved to be completely bogus by various witnesses as well as the arvizo's lack of credibility and phone records that proved that MJ wasn't even at neverland during the time the acts were supposedly happening. I remember one hilarious moment during the trial where star arvizo claimed that Mj showed him and his brother a certain issue of a playboy magazine, but the date on the magazine revealed that the magazine hadn't even been published when he and his brother were at neverland. So yeah, the verdict was correct. That particular case was nothing more but a scam just like the many other scams this family has pulled. So now that we know the arvizo's claims about drinking alcohol and looking at pornography with MJ were all fabricated, what does that say about Safechuck and Wade's allegations?
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I can't wait APWNN to be released and reports focusing on the single instead. Safechuck made it even more idiotic that it'd be ridiculous if Beckcoff takes those claims seriously.
I can't wait APWNN to be released and reports focusing on the single instead. Safechuck made it even more idiotic that it'd be ridiculous if Beckcoff takes those claims seriously.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Completely agree because the only people who seem to care most are MJ fans and hos kids.
Completely agree because the only people who seem to care most are MJ fans and hos kids.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
I just heard a DJ who focus on today gossip just mentioned it. His response: "WHATEVER. What is the next story" . LOL. Nobody cares. And I hope this story disappear after today. No need give it legs.
I just heard a DJ who focus on today gossip just mentioned it. His response: "WHATEVER. What is the next story" . LOL. Nobody cares. And I hope this story disappear after today. No need give it legs.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
This really doesn't make any sense. I cannot understand how it has not been thrown out by now. The claim appears to be that michael did unspeakable things to them that they did not know were wrong, how michael said if anyone found out then he would go to prison and they would go to juvenile jail but still they didn't know he had done anything was wrong, then they were asked about him when Jordy made his hateful claims and they did not know anything he had done was wrong and then they were asked to defend him in a court case where he was fighting claims that michael had done the same thing that they now claim he had done to them and still they didn't know that he had done anything wrong. Then following his death when the false claims and court case was brought up again they defended him because the didn't know anything was wrong. But 20 years after the supposed event they suddenly decided that he had done something wrong. And then the wanted justice. Not for the money but to set the story straight, oh but they would like nearly 2 billion dollars compensation, but honestly it's not for the money. And now add to this the fact that, whilst this would be unbelievable from one person, two people are claiming the same thing. That's two adults who have only just realised that sexual assault on a child is wrong. Finally find a none-fan or a hater and read what i have just written and ask them to honestly answer does this really make any sense at all. If it was them would they have behaved the same way, would anyone? And you will be told what you and I already know - That this is not only a transparent lie but the claims insult the intelligence of any right thinking person. That said I devastated that Michaels children have to suffer these claims after the loss of their father. Knowing what happened to Paris this only makes their claim more despicable. They obviously only care about the money. I just pray that Michaels children and mother draw strengh from the love sent by Michaels fans.
This really doesn't make any sense. I cannot understand how it has not been thrown out by now. The claim appears to be that michael did unspeakable things to them that they did not know were wrong, how michael said if anyone found out then he would go to prison and they would go to juvenile jail but still they didn't know he had done anything was wrong, then they were asked about him when Jordy made his hateful claims and they did not know anything he had done was wrong and then they were asked to defend him in a court case where he was fighting claims that michael had done the same thing that they now claim he had done to them and still they didn't know that he had done anything wrong. Then following his death when the false claims and court case was brought up again they defended him because the didn't know anything was wrong. But 20 years after the supposed event they suddenly decided that he had done something wrong. And then the wanted justice. Not for the money but to set the story straight, oh but they would like nearly 2 billion dollars compensation, but honestly it's not for the money. And now add to this the fact that, whilst this would be unbelievable from one person, two people are claiming the same thing. That's two adults who have only just realised that sexual assault on a child is wrong. Finally find a none-fan or a hater and read what i have just written and ask them to honestly answer does this really make any sense at all. If it was them would they have behaved the same way, would anyone? And you will be told what you and I already know - That this is not only a transparent lie but the claims insult the intelligence of any right thinking person. That said I devastated that Michaels children have to suffer these claims after the loss of their father. Knowing what happened to Paris this only makes their claim more despicable. They obviously only care about the money. I just pray that Michaels children and mother draw strengh from the love sent by Michaels fans.
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Yeah, people and media are fed up with these delusional guys coming out of wood work claiming stuff.
I was surprised by this article as usually media people calls Michael creepy or bizarre, but this occasion those words were for James S:
The New Michael Jackson Allegations Are The Creepiest Ones Ever
BY MACK RAWDEN 2014-08-06 09:58:28
Over the past few decades, Michael Jackson has been at the center of more than his share of controversies. Some of them have been utterly bizarre. Some of them have been despicable. And most of them have been downright creepy—like this one, that might be the creepiest thing I have ever heard in my entire life.
James Safechuck, better known as the kid from the Pepsi Commercial with Michael Jackson, went public earlier this year with a series of molestation claims against the late singer’s estate. At the time, the allegations were pretty vague, but thanks to TMZ, they’ve suddenly got a lot more specific. Safechuck claims the pop star systematically abused him from when he was ten-years-old until he reached puberty. He also allegedly invented a series of code words the two would use and lashed out in strange ways after Safechuck admitted he had a crush on MJ’s backup dancer Sheryl Crow.
If Safechuck is to be believed, Michael Jackson called erections “bright light, brick city” and semen “duck butter”. He would allegedly scratch the inside of James’ hand when he wanted sex, and more often than not, he would take him to a special home in Century City to drink pink wine and watch video tapes of children masturbating. Later, when he discovered Safechuck had a crush on Sheryl Crow, Jackson allegedly showed him pictures of her without makeup on to try and change his mind.
Whether or not Safechuck should be believed, however, is a big question mark. The now-36-year-old has testified under oath in the past that he was not abused by Jackson. That, coupled with just how many years the claim has come after the alleged abuse, is more than a little suspicious. That being said, being suspicious is not the same thing as being a lie. So, decide what you will. Michael Jackson is dead and because of the statue of limitations, this likely will never go to trial.
I was surprised by this article as usually media people calls Michael creepy or bizarre, but this occasion those words were for James S:
The New Michael Jackson Allegations Are The Creepiest Ones Ever
BY MACK RAWDEN 2014-08-06 09:58:28
Over the past few decades, Michael Jackson has been at the center of more than his share of controversies. Some of them have been utterly bizarre. Some of them have been despicable. And most of them have been downright creepy—like this one, that might be the creepiest thing I have ever heard in my entire life.
James Safechuck, better known as the kid from the Pepsi Commercial with Michael Jackson, went public earlier this year with a series of molestation claims against the late singer’s estate. At the time, the allegations were pretty vague, but thanks to TMZ, they’ve suddenly got a lot more specific. Safechuck claims the pop star systematically abused him from when he was ten-years-old until he reached puberty. He also allegedly invented a series of code words the two would use and lashed out in strange ways after Safechuck admitted he had a crush on MJ’s backup dancer Sheryl Crow.
If Safechuck is to be believed, Michael Jackson called erections “bright light, brick city” and semen “duck butter”. He would allegedly scratch the inside of James’ hand when he wanted sex, and more often than not, he would take him to a special home in Century City to drink pink wine and watch video tapes of children masturbating. Later, when he discovered Safechuck had a crush on Sheryl Crow, Jackson allegedly showed him pictures of her without makeup on to try and change his mind.
Whether or not Safechuck should be believed, however, is a big question mark. The now-36-year-old has testified under oath in the past that he was not abused by Jackson. That, coupled with just how many years the claim has come after the alleged abuse, is more than a little suspicious. That being said, being suspicious is not the same thing as being a lie. So, decide what you will. Michael Jackson is dead and because of the statue of limitations, this likely will never go to trial.
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What ticks me off the most about this is that REAL victims suffer from idoits like this. It is clear it is a lie. Seem like James read the Garvin's lie and try to put a spin on it. Also, during these times, MJ was under so much guard and watchful eye of people (the comeback from Thriller). Also, how come two guys who DEFENED JACKSON HAPPEN TO BE guys who both had "repress memory"? Come on now. This is tiresome.
What ticks me off the most about this is that REAL victims suffer from idoits like this. It is clear it is a lie. Seem like James read the Garvin's lie and try to put a spin on it. Also, during these times, MJ was under so much guard and watchful eye of people (the comeback from Thriller). Also, how come two guys who DEFENED JACKSON HAPPEN TO BE guys who both had "repress memory"? Come on now. This is tiresome.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Nobody is going to believe Wade now because of what he said in the 2005 trial that Michael never touch me now 20+ years has pass and now you want to say Michael abuse you. Why is a court letting his file this it is a waste of time.
Gavin and his family could't prove it. The one thing that will get Wade is what he said in 2005 and he can't take it back it is on file that why the ppls will see right through Wade and know it is all about the money.
Nobody is going to believe Wade now because of what he said in the 2005 trial that Michael never touch me now 20+ years has pass and now you want to say Michael abuse you. Why is a court letting his file this it is a waste of time.
Gavin and his family could't prove it. The one thing that will get Wade is what he said in 2005 and he can't take it back it is on file that why the ppls will see right through Wade and know it is all about the money.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
And he continue to defend MJ AFTER DEATH.
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We need to know what is being accused, if we don't then you can't defend it and there would be no point in this thread. However, it doesn't necessarily need to come from rags but they are the ones it seems who report these things first.
We need to know what is being accused, if we don't then you can't defend it and there would be no point in this thread. However, it doesn't necessarily need to come from rags but they are the ones it seems who report these things first.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
^ I really think they went too far. They would have been smarter to claim "just" some mutual masturbation here and there to make it more believable for the public. I think they thought these over the top claims would have the shock and disgust value to generate the headlines that would put pressure on the Estate to settle, plus the more outrageous the claims are the more money they can demand, but it backfired, because this sounds so ridiculous that it generates rather suspicion about them, even in those who are not fans.
^ I really think they went too far. They would have been smarter to claim "just" some mutual masturbation here and there to make it more believable for the public. I think they thought these over the top claims would have the shock and disgust value to generate the headlines that would put pressure on the Estate to settle, plus the more outrageous the claims are the more money they can demand, but it backfired, because this sounds so ridiculous that it generates rather suspicion about them, even in those who are not fans.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
This guy, I hope he will feel guilty for what he is doing right now. There is only one positive thing about this - that Michael doesnt have to go through this anymore.
So if someone did something like that to me I usually would file a claim because I want that person to go to jail, money would certainly not make me happy. Now that person is dead for 5 years and I file a claim. Im asking what is the point ? And we all know the truth.
That bastard is only after money thats obvious, but im just asking myself why are these people doing this ? I hate this world we live in.
This guy, I hope he will feel guilty for what he is doing right now. There is only one positive thing about this - that Michael doesnt have to go through this anymore.
So if someone did something like that to me I usually would file a claim because I want that person to go to jail, money would certainly not make me happy. Now that person is dead for 5 years and I file a claim. Im asking what is the point ? And we all know the truth.
That bastard is only after money thats obvious, but im just asking myself why are these people doing this ? I hate this world we live in.
feeling a little numb...not much energy getting angry this time...it's going on so long ...20 years... Im really getting tired
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Actually, the more I think about it the more I cannot understand why Chuck put in that Michael married him. I mean, it is so weird and out there that I cannot understand why it was added. I guess because Michael was such a weirdness magnet that Chuck and Wade figured that they can say anything they wanted and they would be believed, but really, if Michael Jackson mocked married you wouldn't you tell someone? I mean, like his friends, his parents, anyone? Even if it was just play you married you freaking idol and you say crap about it. He gave you a freaking ring for goodness sake, according to Chuck.
The child porn is with Wade's anal rape in believability. There is no way that Michael could have child porn and no one (not the FBI, DA, other kids, ect) found it. He would have done better saying he saw adult porn like Gavin, at least there is evidence of that Michael had a lot of het porn. And, how the hell didn't Chuck know that child porn is bad? You have to live in a bubble or something.
Actually, the more I think about it the more I cannot understand why Chuck put in that Michael married him. I mean, it is so weird and out there that I cannot understand why it was added. I guess because Michael was such a weirdness magnet that Chuck and Wade figured that they can say anything they wanted and they would be believed, but really, if Michael Jackson mocked married you wouldn't you tell someone? I mean, like his friends, his parents, anyone? Even if it was just play you married you freaking idol and you say crap about it. He gave you a freaking ring for goodness sake, according to Chuck.
The child porn is with Wade's anal rape in believability. There is no way that Michael could have child porn and no one (not the FBI, DA, other kids, ect) found it. He would have done better saying he saw adult porn like Gavin, at least there is evidence of that Michael had a lot of het porn. And, how the hell didn't Chuck know that child porn is bad? You have to live in a bubble or something.
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Bubs James Safechuck, better known as the kid from the Pepsi Commercial with Michael Jackson, went public earlier this year with a series of molestation claims against the late singer’s estate. At the time, the allegations were pretty vague, but thanks to TMZ, they’ve suddenly got a lot more specific. Safechuck claims the pop star systematically abused him from when he was ten-years-old until he reached puberty. He also allegedly invented a series of code words the two would use and lashed out in strange ways after Safechuck admitted he had a crush on MJ’s backup dancer Sheryl Crow.
That sweet kid from the Pepsi Commercial are you for real? I never knew that.
That sweet kid from the Pepsi Commercial are you for real? I never knew that.
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Wade Robson & Jimmy Safechuck's Rape Circus: http://youtu.be/zwbJ_t7JGx8 via @YouTube
[video=youtube;zwbJ_t7JGx8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwbJ_t7JGx8#t=114[/video]
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
And that the key here suspicion why are you coming out with this now and why did you said back in 2005 Michael never abuse you. That why the ppls will not believe it.
I go back to Michael words if you tell a lie often enough you start to believe it. That what James and Wade are doing now told the true in 2005 but here in 2013 their are telling a lies.
And that the key here suspicion why are you coming out with this now and why did you said back in 2005 Michael never abuse you. That why the ppls will not believe it.
I go back to Michael words if you tell a lie often enough you start to believe it. That what James and Wade are doing now told the true in 2005 but here in 2013 their are telling a lies.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
I know this might sound terrible, but I'm really glad that they made all of these outrages claims. It just makes their already weak case even more weaker
I know this might sound terrible, but I'm really glad that they made all of these outrages claims. It just makes their already weak case even more weaker
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Someone told me that Brett Barnes has kids. Is this true? if so, then why didn't the horrific realization of being abused by MJ come back to him like it did with Jimmy and Wade?
Someone told me that Brett Barnes has kids. Is this true? if so, then why didn't the horrific realization of being abused by MJ come back to him like it did with Jimmy and Wade?
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
This message was sent to me by one of my followers on twitter. She got it from someone else who emailed one of MJ's old child friends wondering what his thoughts were on this whole Safechuck/Robson soap opera. This is what he said:
"I do not and will never believe that Michael was a pedophile. And I say this as a young boy who's spent lots of time alone with him and seen him interact with various children. If these grown men were molested then they should have said something when the man could defend himself. They only gained the "courage" to come forward when their pockets became empty and Michael couldn't deny their claims."
This message was sent to me by one of my followers on twitter. She got it from someone else who emailed one of MJ's old child friends wondering what his thoughts were on this whole Safechuck/Robson soap opera. This is what he said:
"I do not and will never believe that Michael was a pedophile. And I say this as a young boy who's spent lots of time alone with him and seen him interact with various children. If these grown men were molested then they should have said something when the man could defend himself. They only gained the "courage" to come forward when their pockets became empty and Michael couldn't deny their claims."
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If that is true in the bold then he need to dismiss the case throw it out because it is all lies. Their said that Michael never abuse them do the judge think the ppls will believe them now no.
If that is true in the bold then he need to dismiss the case throw it out because it is all lies. Their said that Michael never abuse them do the judge think the ppls will believe them now no.
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And this is what we all have been saying it is about the money and Michael is not here to defend himself and things are not going well for them so their say let go sue Michael their really need help Michael has done nothing wrong but yet their want to drag his name through the mud.
And this is what we all have been saying it is about the money and Michael is not here to defend himself and things are not going well for them so their say let go sue Michael their really need help Michael has done nothing wrong but yet their want to drag his name through the mud.
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Because it never happen and for James and Wade it all lies.
Because it never happen and for James and Wade it all lies.
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Yes, because the child porn then raises the question - where did it come from? It could only have come from other pedophiles. So who did he get it from? How? There would now have to be more than one person who knew, this would mean MJ was involved with a pedophile ring, as who else shares child porn with other people?
And then what happened to it?
Why didn't MJ use it on Jordan or Wade?
Why only James?
How did MJ dispose of it before the raid?
A predator who is so obsessed with pedophilia he uses child pornography is one who needs more and more to satiate his needs - just look at how much child porn is normally found on people convicted of it. Normally within the thousands range. That's a NORMAL amount. THOUSANDS. A superstar like MJ who had access to a pedophile ring, and was abusing numerous children himself - he would no doubt have wanted to film it himself even to add it to his collection.
So where did it all go???? Why did he have none on his computer?
Not even any gay porn?
It's very obvious he based that claim on the LeMarques story, reprinted after Wade's first story came out. Clearly he felt that was something he could use to bolster the fact that it was true.
But none of these people ever consider what else has to happen for their narrative to work.
Explain who he got it from, where he got it from, where he kept it, how many others therefore had to know about it, why he used it only on James, and why he was never found with child porn throughout his entire life.
I definitely know that his sister has kids and he's very close to them, yes.
It's the same story everyone around him has - bar these nutjobs.
I mean, ****, even Jordan Chandler's family seems to have a fondness/love for MJ now. How'd that happen?
Yes, because the child porn then raises the question - where did it come from? It could only have come from other pedophiles. So who did he get it from? How? There would now have to be more than one person who knew, this would mean MJ was involved with a pedophile ring, as who else shares child porn with other people?
And then what happened to it?
Why didn't MJ use it on Jordan or Wade?
Why only James?
How did MJ dispose of it before the raid?
A predator who is so obsessed with pedophilia he uses child pornography is one who needs more and more to satiate his needs - just look at how much child porn is normally found on people convicted of it. Normally within the thousands range. That's a NORMAL amount. THOUSANDS. A superstar like MJ who had access to a pedophile ring, and was abusing numerous children himself - he would no doubt have wanted to film it himself even to add it to his collection.
So where did it all go???? Why did he have none on his computer?
Not even any gay porn?
It's very obvious he based that claim on the LeMarques story, reprinted after Wade's first story came out. Clearly he felt that was something he could use to bolster the fact that it was true.
But none of these people ever consider what else has to happen for their narrative to work.
Explain who he got it from, where he got it from, where he kept it, how many others therefore had to know about it, why he used it only on James, and why he was never found with child porn throughout his entire life.
I definitely know that his sister has kids and he's very close to them, yes.
It's the same story everyone around him has - bar these nutjobs.
I mean, ****, even Jordan Chandler's family seems to have a fondness/love for MJ now. How'd that happen?