Janet Jackson announces new album

snowwhite luvs peterpan, I agree with you.. I'll never forgive her for what she did to MJ and his kids.. Her bashing her brother after his death was cruel.. MJ would've never done that to her.. If this 'comeback' of hers fail I won't be upset either..She never apologized publicly to his children and she never took back what she said about MJ after Murray was convicted of killing MJ.. Janet was talking like Mike was a cracked out addict comparing him to her crack addict ex husbands.. Mike was killed by a doctor that he trusted trying to get treatment for sleep. He wasn't doing this stuff for fun or recreation and Janet never put anything into perspective. I think she did it to make herself look good.. I will never support her again in anything she does.
 
Enough with the hate for Janet. It is long since in the past and I never once got that vibe from her ever that she was bashing Michael or his kids. Get over it. It's done. It's over with.
 
DuranDuran, if we do not know the argument the author of the article is using that would place Janet as the first, how do we know if she is arguably the first? Maybe I am misunderstanding the purposes of your post; would you prefer her accomplishment to be diminished?

Paris78;4093457 said:
elke hassell

There is so much discord in the online fan community and I believe many in the online fan community benefit from that discord. I have not been invited to at least three graduations this year and I still love and cherish the young adults who graduated. As an adult, I understand those young adults are given a limited number of invites to their graduation. How interesting this particular person did not question who Michael’s son did invite such as both of his paternal grandparents who some in the online fan community have distaste for. Seems none of his maternal relatives were invited either minus his sister.
 
ChrisC;4091005 said:
It's naive to come here and not expect to see a range of opinions expressed.

Quoting this comment to answer Neverland's criticism. Whoever takes/took advantage of Michael in any way or form, whoever hurts/hurt him, whoever bashes/bashed him unfoundedly or lies/lied about him, it's not well in my book, it will never be in fact. Some Jacksons are more serious offenders than others but at the end of the day all of them are/were guilty of such things previously mentioned. Michael supported all his siblings, he never took advantage of having interviews to bash them publicly, he was a class act and how did they pay him? Doing all the opposite he did


Paris78;4093457 said:
Trying to separate private and business matters, too..but this post leaves me thinking about the current state of relationsship with Mike's Kids

elke hassell ‏@ElkeHassell June 9th

Did You Miss It? Janet Jackson Resurfaces At Godson’s Graduation http://thatgrapejuice.net/2015/06/did-you-miss-janet-jackson-resurfaces-godsons-graduation/ … via @thatgrapejuice But Didn't come 4 Prince's Grad!

It seems Prince and Paris don't want anything to do with Janet. Auntie Latoya didn't get involved in the granny napping fiasco and you keep watching pictures of the children with her.
 
neverland-ranchdressing;4093511 said:
Enough with the hate for Janet. It is long since in the past and I never once got that vibe from her ever that she was bashing Michael or his kids. Get over it. It's done. It's over with.

Just because you want to excuse the things that Janet did to Michael after he was murdered, doesn't mean other fans will. The things that Janet has done is not the things that a SISTER should do. There is no logical reason to do the things she has done except jealousy, envy and trying to destroy her own brother's legacy. FTR, Michael would NEVER have done what she did to him. What really makes me angry is the willingness to forgive her for her de eitfulnes against her brother and even more so against her own niece and nephews, only because it's Janet. You would be wanting to kill Beyoncé if she had said and done the things to Michael that his own SISTER has said and done since he was murdered. Yet, some have the audacity to say that fans should just ignore and forget what Janet has done. SMDH in disgust!!!
 
DuranDuran, if we do not know the argument the author of the article is using that would place Janet as the first, how do we know if she is arguably the first? Maybe I am misunderstanding the purposes of your post; would you prefer her accomplishment to be diminished?
Because there is none. There is no reasoning that can make Janet the 1st African-American woman to start a label. Maybe the author did not do his/her research, which tends to happen in today's TMZ world, or maybe its just hype, which is what press releases are generally for. Either way, it's misinformation. People start death hoaxes about celebs and sometimes the news has even reported it, then later had to retract the story. The women may not be as well known as Janet, but it's not like Sugarhill Records (or even Vee Jay) is obscure, in that Rapper's Delight is generally credited with kicking off rap music as the first hit. Hip hop is still popular today.
 
Because there is none. There is no reasoning that can make Janet the 1st African-American woman to start a label. Maybe the author did not do his/her research, which tends to happen in today's TMZ world, or maybe its just hype, which is what press releases are generally for. Either way, it's misinformation. People start death hoaxes about celebs and sometimes the news has even reported it, then later had to retract the story. The women may not be as well known as Janet, but it's not like Sugarhill Records (or even Vee Jay) is obscure, in that Rapper's Delight is generally credited with kicking off rap music as the first hit. Hip hop is still popular today.


technically yes, because Janet is the first ( that I know ) who started a label with no other label attacked , a lot of others still have other labels attached to them to distribution and etc, Janet lable is completely free from other labels ( BMG separated from Sony), BMG is just doing the distribution , Janet is completely doing the rest,
 
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Tygger;4093516 said:
DuranDuran, if we do not know the argument the author of the article is using that would place Janet as the first, how do we know if she is arguably the first? Maybe I am misunderstanding the purposes of your post; would you prefer her accomplishment to be diminished?



There is so much discord in the online fan community and I believe many in the online fan community benefit from that discord. I have not been invited to at least three graduations this year and I still love and cherish the young adults who graduated. As an adult, I understand those young adults are given a limited number of invites to their graduation. How interesting this particular person did not question who Michael’s son did invite such as both of his paternal grandparents who some in the online fan community have distaste for. Seems none of his maternal relatives were invited either minus his sister.[/QUOTE

I really don't think that Janet would have shown up anyway; especially, after her actions against Michael and his kids after his death. Btw, both of Prince's paternal grandparents were at graduation.
 
technically yes, because Janet is the first ( that I know ) who started a label with no other label attacked , a lot of others still have other labels attached to them to distribution and etc, Janet lable is completely free from other labels ( BMG separated from Sony), BMG is just doing the distribution , Janet is completely doing the rest,
Vee Jay (which started in the early 1950s) was not attached to other labels and neither was Sugarhill. Back in the 1950s, indies were not with majors. Sometimes if an indie had success with an act, a major would buy out their contract, like RCA did with Elvis Presley, who was signed to Sun Records. In the beginning, the majors did not even notice hip hop or figured it was a fad that wouldn't last long. The majority of early rap was on independent labels and was generally only on 12" singles as the songs tended to be long and wouldn't fit on a 45. The only one who got signed to a major was Kurtis Blow and he said that he did not get the same promotion & help as the acts in other genres.
 
DuranDuran, we have no idea what argument the author of the article is using so that Janet is arguably the first and the author is very clear she is arguably the first. It is never said she is the first. Again, would you prefer her accomplishment to be diminished?

Somewhereinthedark, apologies, I do not participate in discussions whose sole purpose is to express distaste for Jackson family members. I am aware Katherine and Joe attended the graduation. This young man invited a small group of family members he loves and who love him in return to share a very proud moment with him. It does not matter some fans have a distaste for those family members.
 
DuranDuran, we have no idea what argument the author of the article is using so that Janet is arguably the first and the author is very clear she is arguably the first. It is never said she is the first. Again, would you prefer her accomplishment to be diminished?
It's not true so there's nothing to diminish. It's a press release from BMG, it does not have to be entirely factual. PR is just designed to prop up their acts and make them sound good to the public. That's why Janet's sales numbers are mentioned. Record sales cannot be proved, they can make up a number, like Elvis selling a billion records. They can put out the information that The Eagles has the biggest selling album, but leave out the part that it's only US sales and not worldwide.
 
Just imagine if Michael had done the same to his sister, her fans would be claiming his head so speak. Janet fans, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Did we hit a nerve telling the truth?
 
DuranDuran, it is true that she has a label so that is what my question refers to.

I believe you and many others have read PR before and will continue to read PR about artists. At the very least this PR was carefully worded. Without knowing the author's argument it is very difficult to prove she is not arguably the first.
 
I want to thank the people who came here to announce that they won't be supporting Janet. You're contribution as added so much to this thread
 
Well, let's make it about her announcing comeback and her music then. She's not relevant as she was in the 90s and no matter how hard she tries, her career doesn't have the strength Michael's always has had to make stunts similar to what he did to announce his HIStory album, she's not Michael. In other circumstances I wouldn't had minded to wish her the best but my loyalty lies towards Michael mainly and whoever messes up with him and his children is not well in my book. So I hope she fails miserably.
 
I'll give the music a chance, and if I like it, I'll download it.
 
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I don't understand the idea of getting so engrossed in the lives of people they don't know and who don't know they even exist, that they want revenge on them. :rofl:
 
I dunno anything about the family drama but hope it got worked out:) I like Janets music, especially the 80s stuff but please no more sex kitten, shes to old old for it. I dont want it to be like Madonna where shes a grandma tryin to be sexy, it looks pathetic & desperate.
 
ageism

but please no more sex kitten, shes to old old for it. I dont want it to be like Madonna where shes a grandma tryin to be sexy, it looks pathetic & desperate.
What's with the ageism? There is no certain age to do something. That is taught, just like any other bigotry.
 
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Mmmmm not sure how much I like that clip. On one hand it's definitely VR-like, on the other, I'd like to have heard something more catchy. But then again this isn't like a huge unveiling or a single release, so I'll keep my ears open.
 
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