Spike Lee announces Off The Wall Documentary - Estate Announcement Page 66

Who would you say had the 2nd best super bowl show?
Well, between running back and forth from computer to computer and glancing at the show on my phone (that kept pausing every 5 seconds ) I finally got it to play on the widescreen PC and add to my list of shows to watch, so think I will wait til tomorrow when I am more calm and sit back and enjoy it.

And thank you Atlas for your help.


So l'm watching this Best Halftime Show on their gigantic TV instead. Never ever noticed his fedora in front of him during Jam or the dancers doing pirouettes during Billie Jean. Jon Pareles of the NYT has a lot of nerve talking about how gifted Michael is after bad mouthing him so cruelly in the past.

My favorite half time had to be Katy Perry and the technicolor dance with the blue shark. Lol. Just kidding. I really haven't watched too many although more than I thought from watching this show. I watched the Prince one (and loved his stage) and the Janet Jackson one at the time because it was here in Houston and I wanted to see what our new stadium looked like. I remember not liking it bc I didn't recognize any songs and it looked messy. That was before the wardrobe malfunction which I saw as I was changing the channel. :)

Guess my 2nd favorite after Michael was Bruno Mars. I think he is just flat out old school talented. And cute.

Sorry for the long rambling post about Super Bowl Performances and thanks for letting me interrupt the doc talk. I am full of nervous anxiety over OTW messing up on me so badly.

Just read your reviews and saw Brighter's. I'm glad he liked it. So I'm looking forward to watching this slowly and savoring every moment.
 
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You're better off just waiting til you get home.

Bruno and Prince were great, but I think visually, Beyonce was amazing.
I ask because I didn't really care for MJ's superbowl show. I think just him standing there basking in the applause went on for too long. And then closing with Heal The World... I dunno, its fine, its just not a fav.

Also, had he performed at the super bowl in more recent years (and at night) he most definitely would have had an awesome stage setup.
 
AtlasAir;4133085 said:
You're better off just waiting til you get home.

Bruno and Prince were great, but I think visually, Beyonce was amazing.
I ask because I didn't really care for MJ's superbowl show. I think just him standing there basking in the applause went on for too long. And then closing with Heal The World... I dunno, its fine, its just not a fav.

Also, had he performed at the super bowl in more recent years (and at night) he most definitely would have had an awesome stage setup.
Most likely right about the night set up. That was actually my first ever half time and I do remember cringing a bit at the pause with the glasses so it was funny now to see/hear the director Don Mischer pleading and screaming in his headset (to the camera guys) "take off your glasses!!!" That spectacle with the cards, kids and blow up globe more than blew me away tho-I remember screaming at the tv set.
They just showed Beyoncé. I'll rewind it and watch her again.
:)
 
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^Glad you got to watch it too.

Clicking on the 'Xs' messed up my stream so I had to watch it with the annoying ads. But hey, at least the audio was good :)
 
Twitter reactions

BrownGirlStrongGirl ‏@JakesLipbalm 22m22 minutes ago
Compared to today's "artists" Michael Jackson had more talent in his sweat than these "singers" have in their entire body #MJOTW2016


V ‏@vivianavxo 21m21 minutes ago
This Michael Jackson Documentary opened my eyes so much more about Michael... I didn't know you could love someone even more than you do


Kemi! ‏@Kemi_VB 21m21 minutes ago
Finished watching the @MichaelJackson "Off The Wall" doc. Brilliant. MJ was only 20 when he recorded that masterpiece. #MJOTW2016


Mike Byrd ‏@micchiato 20m20 minutes ago
Spike Lee's "Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to #OffTheWall " is worthy.


Alex Gonzalez ☆ ‏@AlXG_ 20m20 minutes ago
Off The Wall has a very magical feeling and there is no other album that can compare to it. Michael Jackson was a genius.


Grant Jenkins ‏@JGrantJenkins 20m20 minutes ago
Some still innovate today but they're few. Ask & they'll likely tell you... It was Michael Jackson. There will never be another. #MJOTW2016


❌ juliana ❌ ‏@jullianakaren 20m20 minutes ago
there will never be anyone as talented as Michael Jackson, he's the ultimate entertainer.


L*A*W ‏@planet12law 19m19 minutes ago
WOWWWWWWWWWWWW ! who else watched the @SpikeLee documentary on Michael Jackson's "Off The Wall" ?!!!!! I LOOOOOOVED IT !!!


MaryK Myal ‏@MaryKMyal 16m16 minutes ago
Totally loved @michaeljackson's Journey From Motown To Off The Wall. It was awesome! #MJOTW2016
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Christian Nwachukwu ‏@WatchNwachukwu 15m15 minutes ago
"One of the most important things to being successful is listening—and watching and being a good person to work with." — Michael Jackson


mikes sticky bawls ‏@MichaelSaidBabe 37m37 minutes ago
I hope you're finally proud, and you see, that in the end, it was perfect. It all came out, just perfect. @michaeljackson


Marvin DeBose ‏@TheMindOfMarvin 37m37 minutes ago
Watching this MJ "Off the Wall" doc, I'm never NOT amazed by the drive and talent of Michael Jackson.


KIMBERLY KELLER ‏@TERPY222 37m37 minutes ago
The Showtime documentary about Michael Jackson was soooooo amazing.
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Thyatiria ‏@Thyatiria 37m37 minutes agoChicago, IL
Just watched an awesome documentary about #OffTheWall is by far my favorite Michael Jackson album. Great job @SpikeLee


Ryan Streit ‏@RyanStreit 37m37 minutes ago
Let's be real, Michael Jackson's entire catalog is outside of my vocal range :-(


add your name ‏@x_Fayeeeee__ 37m37 minutes ago
We have a lot of great performers but when it comes to Michael Jackson, he was on a whole nother level


DiVa DoN LoCo ‏@DNEENLOVE 37m37 minutes ago
Michael Jackson's music proves that music can be colorless it's just all about love #MJOTW2016


trizzy. ‏@trizzytriston 36m36 minutes ago
This Michael Jackson doc is everything
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Erik ‏@blaksheepent83 37m37 minutes ago
Incredible Documentary — watching Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to Off the Wall


Chaun Bandelay ‏@RooseveltChaun 36m36 minutes ago
Y'all still compare Beyonce to Michael Jackson? Lmaooooooo


Cancel free trial ‏@ToriTinashe 36m36 minutes ago
That documenary made me love & respect Michael Jackson even more


9-5 Up on the Shelf! ‏@ThatJacksonGal_ 36m36 minutes ago
THANK YOU Michael Jackson. Thank you.


hoops ‏@madisonhooper22 36m36 minutes ago
Michael Jackson is such a beautiful human being in so many ways


Mo ‏@mototha 34m34 minutes ago
Spike Lee's Michael Jackson documentary is sooooo good! I love Off The Wall! Such a great album.


he Icon ‏@IconicTalks 35m35 minutes ago
@SHO_Docs @Showtime @questlove @SpikeLee @michaeljackson this is such an amazing show. I danced, laughed and cried. #IconicKingofPop


FT ‏@m3dalhead 34m34 minutes ago
.Well done @SpikeLee. I thoroughly enjoyed Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to Off the Wall. Had a blast watching this on @Showtime.


Alex Gonzalez ☆ ‏@AlXG_ 32m32 minutes ago
Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to Off The Wall documentary was incredible. There will not be anyone like Michael Jackson.


♡ MoFo All Day☆ ‏@mysticalkidd 30m30 minutes ago
The rediscovery and new refound love I just experienced watching the doc has got me feeling OTW, I love Michael Jackson so much. #MJOTW2016


Sophia ‏@sophboudreau 29m29 minutes ago
Words can't even describe how much I miss Michael Jackson


rent Hewitt ‏@Marsdude5150 30m30 minutes agoSan Diego, CA
@questlove Just got done watching your parts in the documentary of @michaeljackson #OffTheWall absolutely outstanding.
 
That was actually my first ever half time and I do remember cringing a bit at the pause with the glasses so it was funny now to see/hear the director Don Mischer pleading and screaming in his headset (to the camera guys) "take off your glasses!!!"

It works at an MJ concert, but when you are doing a timed show where you ONLY get 12 to 15 minutes (whatever the designated time is), every second counts. He could have done an extra song or 2 as part of the medley instead of standing there. Whatevs.

I really want a Triumph dvd now.
 
Anyone knows if there is any site to look for the transcript of the show? (or pay for)

I need it to make Chinese subtitles in the future.
 
Kate Davis ?@katemdavis 49m49 minutes ago
@SpikeLee thanks for @Showtime Michael Jackson's Journey From Motown to Off The Wall. Simply Amazing. Don't stop till you get enough.
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caramelswizz ?@caramel_swizz 49m49 minutes ago
@SpikeLee kudos your documentary on Michael Jackson was wonderful I'm so proud of you for doing it thank you!!!!


Deacon Triple Chedda ?@OGFuzzySlippers 48m48 minutes ago
Michael Jackson the greatest human being God has ever made


Trans-Vaginal Mesh ?@Booda911 48m48 minutes ago
@TrustIn_KEYsus Her impact is misplaced. Michael Jackson created art. He created a spectrum of BELIEVABLE music


Sam Marks ?@samwmarks 47m47 minutes ago
The Michael Jackson doc on @Showtime is so amazing.


Phill. ?@PdotHALL 47m47 minutes ago
Stumbled across the Michael Jackson documentary. What a legend.


Riley Stricker ?@RileyStricker 47m47 minutes ago
Michael Jackson doesn't get enough respect for how talented he was...smh


Charles Willoughby ?@C_WilloB 46m46 minutes ago
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Best documentary of probably the most inspirational pop music artist ever. #imho @michaeljackson


OKSANA BAIUL. ?@_mothers_ 44m44 minutes ago
This Michael Jackson documentary is perfect. Thanks Uncle Spike. Spoke to all the right people. Done perfectly.


Bronx2Bmore ?@Bronx2Bmore 40m40 minutes ago
Watched Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to Off the Wall. It was awesome. The creative artistry in his productions was incredible!


Terry ?@mashano3 40m40 minutes ago
I just viewed #Michael Jackson Journey From Motown To Off The Wall. #SpikeLee did an incredible documentary. great live footage & more.

Melanie321 ?@Mellie4Justice
@michaeljackson 's OFF THE WALL ...just entered the @iTunes chart #KANG #MJOTW2016

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Anyone knows if there is any site to look for the transcript of the show? (or pay for)

I need it to make Chinese subtitles in the future.

There are sites that make transcripts for movies that just aired a few hours ago?
 
Anyone knows if there is any site to look for the transcript of the show? (or pay for)

I need it to make Chinese subtitles in the future.

There are sites that make transcripts for movies that just aired a few hours ago?

Most US TV channels provide Closed Captions (for the hearing impaired). If that's available on Showtime channel / app, you can use it as a transcript.
 
K, so here's what I thought.
Really liked it. I knew a lot of the stories, but there was still a lot I wasn't aware of. All the archival footage and concert stuff was ACE.

I liked the choice of talking heads, though Kobe Bryant didn't seem like he belonged there. He was the odd man out. Sideah Garrets part was lolzy :D I could listen to her for days. I was surprised Spike actually appeared on film. Rosie Perez was great, too.

I'm glad that a huge chunk of the doc is dedicated to the motown days because it really is necessary to build up to the album. Also, it was necessary because there just isn't a ton of visual content for that era. Only 3 music videos and 4 of the songs were ever performed live. And since this was before he documented everything, there's no studio footage to fill time either.

Berry Gordy does not look as old as he probably should. Good on him!

My only critique really is that the last half of the album, Spike breezes through. Which is fine. Like I said, there's not much content to say about it. He has people who worked on those songs on, but the thing is, I wish he would have let those songs play on their own for 15 to 30 seconds with a photo montage. Instead, he has the people talking over the songs. It's fine for someone like me who knows the songs, but for those who might not be familiar with them, it would have been nice to have a quick snippet of those songs without people speaking over them.

I look forward to a Thriller doc. Definitely more visual content to work with...hopefully Paul McCartney makes an appearance...hopefully Say Say Say is mentioned...Victory tour material!
 
Most US TV channels provide Closed Captions (for the hearing impaired). If that's available on Showtime channel / app, you can use it as a transcript.

Ah, i see.
Be that as it may, i dont know of any places that take the time to do that only hours after something airs and puts online for people to read.
 
Most US TV channels provide Closed Captions (for the hearing impaired). If that's available on Showtime channel / app, you can use it as a transcript.
Yeah, so dose Showtime has it?
 
Well, they have english captions for the stream, yes. But its not a downloadable file you can get separately if that's what you mean.
 
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that is so ****ING SEXY!!!!!!!!!! :dribble: :heat: :in_love: :tongue_roll: :girl_*****: :*****:
 
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Patiently waiting for links to it so I can watch it too:bored:

Mark Ronson ?@MarkRonson 4h4 hours ago
.@SpikeLee's MJ doc on Off The Wall is a 10/10. MJ + Quincy (+ the brilliant musicians, writers & engineers) = the best made pop album ever
 
I was at work when it first aired, but I'm watching it now (Android app). For some reason I can't view it on my laptop when I went to Showtime's homepage. It kept kicking me back to the sign up for the free trial page.
 
[h=1]Maurice White, Michael Jackson, and the Excellence of Disco[/h] Spike Lee’s new film Michael Jackson's Journey From Motown to Off The Wall spotlights the same sort of work ethic that drove Earth, Wind & Fire’s success.


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<section id="article-section-1">&#8220;When you see somebody&#8217;s work you can see the details and if they actually truly love what they do&#8212;if they really do pay attention to the craft,&#8221; Kobe Bryant says. &#8220;I think this generation, their perception has become skewed. The love for the craft becomes secondary to the love of the fame and notoriety. My generation, the Jordan generation, Bird, Magic, Michael Jackson, they focused on what they loved to do.&#8221;
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</aside>That quote from the notoriously uncompromising NBA vet was made not in the context of a Lakers retrospective, nor in response to a question about today&#8217;s young athletes, but rather during a documentary about the actual last days of disco. Its director, Spike Lee, weaves commentary from Bryant&#8212;and from a diverse array of famous talents, including non-musical ones like Misty Copeland and Rosie Perez&#8212;throughout the hour and a half of Showtime&#8217;s Michael Jackson&#8217;s Journey From Motown to Off The Wall, premiering Friday. The film gleefully pays tribute to Jackson at a moment when he first staked his claim to all-time-great status, before he was engulfed in image problems. In doing so, it forcefully highlights the dedication, skill, and vision that went into some of the most joyful music that modern times have produced.
<figure></figure>I&#8217;d finished watching From Motown to Off the Wall shortly before news broke that Maurice White, founder of Earth, Wind & Fire, had died at age 74. Jackson and White are connected in ways obvious and not. Viewers of the documentary learn that some record executives had wanted White to produce Jackson&#8217;s 1979 solo debut Off the Wall, which makes sense given that Jackson was making the kind of sumptuous, full-band, R&B-rooted disco for which Earth, Wind & Fire had helped set the template (of course, both that band and Off the Wall were not neatly categorizable in any genre). Jackson instead went with Quincy Jones, resulting in one of the greatest creative partnerships of all time. Wondering what could have been is silly; &#8220;Don&#8217;t Stop &#8216;Til You Get Enough&#8221; and &#8220;Rock With You&#8221; stand next to Earth, Wind & Fire songs like &#8220;September&#8221; in the pantheon of the era&#8217;s everlasting hits. As the documentary notes, Off the Wall&#8217;s final song, &#8220;Burn This Disco Out,&#8221; was a symbolically apt title as pop&#8212;and Jackson&#8212;moved on to new styles as the decade turned.


</section><section id="article-section-2">Both White&#8217;s obituaries and the Jackson documentary make clear that in order to make people truly lose their minds on the dance floor, you&#8217;ve got to have a powerful mind yourself&#8212;plus training and tenacity. White began his career as a session drummer for the likes of Etta James and Muddy Waters; in Earth, Wind & Fire, he not only drummed but sang, wrote, and produced as the band scored seven top-10 albums. For all the spiritualism of their music, ambition was its driver. &#8220;We just wanted to be the best band in the whole world,&#8221; White&#8217;s bandmate Philip Bailey recalled to Billboard. &#8220;Maurice had a fierce work ethic, and we learned from him to have that same work ethic. He was the consummate perfectionist.&#8221;

<figure></figure>Jackson identifies as a perfectionist in Lee&#8217;s documentary, setting up the aforementioned Kobe Bryant quote about excellence. The early parts of the film are filled with testimonials from people who knew Jackson in his days with the Jackson 5 and the Jacksons, when he would practice his singing and dancing endlessly and quiz older stars in detail about how they achieved success. In 1979, on tour with his brothers but yearning for the creative freedom that he would soon be granted, he wrote a manifesto that is shocking in its determination and its prophetic accuracy:


MJ will be my new name. No more Michael Jackson. I want a whole new character, a new look, I should be a totally different person &#8230; I should be a new incredible actor, singer, dancer that will shock the world. I will do no interviews. I will be magic. I will be a perfectionist. A researcher. A trainer. A master. I will be better than every great actor rolled in one. I must have the most incredible training system to dig and dig and dig until I find. I will study and look back on the whole world of entertainment and perfect it. Look back on the world of entertainment and take it from where the greats left off.


Lee&#8217;s documentary spends almost half of its running time in a fascinating track-by-track dissection of Off the Wall, featuring analysis both from present-day figures like Questlove and Mark Ronson and from people involved in the album&#8217;s creation, like the engineer Bruce Swedien. The result is a portrait of the late &#8216;70s pop machine&#8212;session players and co-writers and producers and A&R men&#8212;brought to heel by the creative power of Jackson and Jones. The songwriter Siedah Garrett testifies about Jackson using his voice to demonstrate instrumental parts for musicians to recreate. &#8220;He didn&#8217;t play it, but he sang it,&#8221; she says, seeming totally awed. &#8220;And if you didn&#8217;t play it like he sang it, he would sing it until you played it like he sang it.&#8221;


This is an image at odds with the idea that dance music simply flowing from some primal groove tapped into by instinct. And it reflects Maurice White&#8217;s way of working, too. &#8220;I had a vision, and music was playing in my head that I wanted to bring through,&#8221; he told Billboard not long before he died. &#8220;What I had in mind was exactly what Earth, Wind & Fire became.&#8221; His younger brother Verdine, still the bassist for Earth, Wind & Fire, actually shows up in the Off the Wall documentary for a segment where the question of elemental passion versus hard work comes up. He&#8217;s very clear about the answer. &#8220;No, no, you got to put in the work, man, you got to put the time in,&#8221; he says. &#8220;Really, man, it&#8217;s love that you&#8217;re putting in. Because the people that do this stuff, we love what we do.&#8221;

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Questlove Gomez Verified account &#8207;<s>@</s>questlove <small class="time"> 2h2 hours ago </small> Mike on that metaphysical greatness. writin goals down. speakin them into existence. believin & PREPARING (practice 10,000 hrs) <s>#</s>OffTheWall
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Candice Patrick &#8207;<s>@</s>Only1FancyPants <small class="time"> 34m34 minutes ago </small> Spike Lee really outdid himself w/the Off The Wall doc... Absolute genius!
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sometimes i think about how Off The Wall was released when Michael was barely 20 years old and i feel like useless potato

#LETMEBESUPERMAN &#8207;<s>@</s>PercivalPenman <small class="time"> 2h2 hours ago </small>
BRUH. Lmao they were recording "Shake Your Body" and Mike legit uttered "I can't WAIT til the Bee Gees hear this sh*t" HE KNEW <s>#</s>OffTheWall

Ashley Chanel &#8207;<s>@</s>AshleyChanel101 <small class="time"> 2h2 hours ago </small>
Love love love the <s>#</s>OffTheWall documentary!! Bravo <s>@</s>SpikeLee <s>@</s>michaeljackson Just what I needed. Thank you.

Tom Ceraulo &#8207;<s>@</s>tceraulo <small class="time"> 2h2 hours ago </small>
I'd complain about Twitter's "improvements" but I feel like watching Spike Lee's "Off The Wall" documentary will be a better use of my time.

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MJ's 'Off The Wall' Album!

Mylène &#8207;<s>@</s>CopperBronzed <small class="time"> 2h2 hours ago </small> Ottawa, Ontario
"Off the Wall"
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music I danced to like nobody was watching The genius that was Michael Jackson! For once culture and colour didn't matter
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LittleSparrow
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Watching Michael Jackson from Motown to Off the Wall documentary on Showtime. It's hard to watch this, I miss Michael. :(

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I was at work when it first aired, but I'm watching it now (Android app). For some reason I can't view it on my laptop when I went to Showtime's homepage. It kept kicking me back to the sign up for the free trial page.

Was it letting you sign in period?
 
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