Spike Lee announces Off The Wall Documentary - Estate Announcement Page 66

Finally watched it and man, it was so great!! Really well done - well put together, interesting, great archival footage and audio of our beautiful young Michael! :D I was afraid I'd be let down because of the lack of 'new' stuff in it, but it didn't matter - I loved it! It was all about the music, so it can't go wrong. And that live footage was AMAZING as well, I really really want that Triumph tour release now!

This part tho, I love Siedah:lol:
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:lol: :lol: Sideah being her badass self
Love it
 
I don't think it's fake sweat. When you look at the other concert footage of the doc MJ is pretty much covered in sweat everywhere - his face, his neck, his hand. I also remember to have read once he was pretty sweaty.

Ok how the hell can you "fake" sweat?
 
I loved in particular the one from Hayvenhurst-mainly because I don't remember seeing it before-and I expected a lot more of the Sylvia Chase one instead-but in defense for the Bad25 doc, Michael only gave two interviews at the time of BAD-the Ebony one and the Molly Meldrun one in Australia, and I think Spike used both.
I believe that quite a bit of Michael talking is taken from his recordings when writing the Moonwalker book which we've heard small portions of.
 
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How awesome is that:clapping:

How big is Showtime's reach? Isn't it pay TV? I kind of wish they would show it on free TV as well.
 
I was happy and impressed with the things the guests had to say in this documentary.
Like Berry Gordy for instance. The way he spoke of MJ's work ethic and how even at a
very young age he absorbed everything. How he was always watching, listening and learning.
He said, and as we all know, that MJ wanted to be the best at everything he ever did.
That he was not at all concerned about the work. MJ was serious business at age 9. :yes:
Berry also said that Michael surpassed what he(Berry) expected of him.
What they did was built on love and Michael was full of L.O.V.E.

Something else I learned from this docu was that the horns on Shake Your Body were played
by those of the legendary Earth Wind & Fire. I heard and loved the amazing horns but didn't
realize they were from EW&F. Also, that they wanted Maurice White on I think it was SYBDTTG.
(I gotta recheck that)

Big ups to Rod Temperton too. :) Also to Rosy Perez, Misty Copeland and Kobe Bryant who spoke of how
watching MJ helped their own artistry.

Sammy Davis: I saw flashes of me but Michael extended it, changed it, colored it....made it his own.


And that letter from MJ tho....
 
Ok how the hell can you "fake" sweat?

Wet his hair before hand. I know he was quite the theatrical guy so it wouldn't surprise me if he did this for exaggerated effect, but who knows I'm not an expert on how much he would naturally sweat :p
 
*very long post alert, please just skip it if you don't want to read anything critical about the docu (that is, if the length didn't make you skip it already in the first place ;) ).*

I watched the documentary yesterday. My expectations were not very high. I enjoyed Bad 25 but thought it was very average as a music documentary. It was the behind the scenes footage that made it worth watching for me. Knowing there'd be less footage from the OTW era, I expected the documentary to be less interesting.

Unfortunately, that's what it turned out to be. I even felt that, with the exception of the 'June 25 segment' at the end of Bad 25, this documentary hit more low points as well. What I did like is that MJ's voice was used as a narrative device. It was limited and I do think with more research and effort it could have been used to a greater extent, but worked well when it was used. One of the more striking moments of the documentary to me was just hearing Michael talk about what he felt was his destiny while Todd Gray's photos were shown. I wish this was utilized more, as it was one of the few moments where it just felt like the focus was entirely on Michael.

I thought the first part of the documentary (up to The Wiz section) felt really out of place. Of course it makes sense to set up a bit of context, but I felt this was unnecessarily long for a 1,5 hour documentary that is supposed to be about the Off The Wall album. At the same time, it was not long enough to really go in-depth on anything (given that they were discussing a 20 year period). I think it would have made more sense to start the documentary with Michael arriving in New York for The Wiz and then give people a sense of the history that led up to that by showing clips that related to it (like Michael talking about going solo during the Sylvia Chase interview), or just condense everything they did here into 5 minutes or so.

To me it picked up a bit once we got to The Wiz. The way Michael and Quincy met was nicely described (glad to see at least some archive footage of Quincy in here). It was also good that Michael living in New York on his own with LaToya and going to Studio 54 during this time was brought up. This could have been explored (much) more, but at least it gave the viewer an idea of how the seeds were planted for this album.

After that things went off-track to me. We suddenly move into a discussion about the production quality of the album. Very much worth mentioning, but we go from the earliest stages of the album being created straight to an analysis of the end product. Odd. The song-by-song breakdown to me did not make any sense here, because most songs were hardly discussed at all. The first half of the album benefited from the live footage, but even those songs were really not discussed in any detail. It was heartbreaking how a lot of the live footage was broken up with 'insights' from the talking heads (a completely uninteresting person saying they danced all alone in their living room to Working Day And Night as if that is some sort of earth-shattering revelation? Whut??). Speaking of which: most of these people had no business being in this documentary. Some made at least a bit of sense. For instance, I like Kobe and I could see him being a suitable talking head in a documentary about Michael's later years (when he actually knew him) or one that focuses more on Michael's work ethic. But why was he in this much more than Bruce Swedien (btw, we know Kobe knew MJ, but this was not explained to the viewer at all. Bad filmmaking)? But what about all the seemingly random people. Rosie Perez? What the heck?

One of the low points to me was the She's Out Of My Life segment. It actually starts out as one of the best song discussions, because it was one of the few instances where we actually learned a little bit about the song's history. It was nice to hear Tom Bahler talk about how he came up with the song and how it ended up with Michael. This was followed by some nice comments by Bruce Swedien and Gamble & Huff about Michael's amazing vocal performance. But then we cut to Eddie Murphy... I like Delirious and I have no problem at all with Eddie's joke about MJ. But the way this was cut here, alternating between Eddie, Michael's live performance, and then back to Eddie crying and asking Tito for tissue, came across as borderline mocking to me (by the director, not Eddie). I thought this was so entirely out of place in what was supposed to be a documentary that makes people appreciate MJ more. And this is coming from someone who thinks the ending to the She's Out Of My Life performance is a bit too theatrical...

Some of the other 'lighthearted' moments also did not make sense to me, for a different but related reason. I don't really have a problem with including Questlove talking about how he thought MJ sang "keep on with the forks don't stop" or David Byrne saying Don't Stop's lyrics sounded like some crazy Star Wars shit to him. This might draw a laugh from viewers and make them relate - we all have at least one MJ song where we don't have a clue as to what the heck he is saying. However, I don't see the point of including this at all unless you then AFTERWARDS explain what Michael was actually saying and what he was talking about. Now it just comes across as "right, he was talking some gibberish about a force" whereas it should be "oh cool, I had no idea what he was talking about but I get it now."

Just think about it: in the end, what does the viewer really learn about the Off The Wall album from this documentary? They learn, in very abstract ways, about the history leading up to it, they learn a little about the impact it had, and the views of talking heads (of varying interest). But there is little to nothing to be learned about the record itself. What was Michael's idea for the album, what did he have in mind? What were the songs about? How did he set about composing these songs? Where were they composed? How long did it take him? What did the people working on the album, like Quincy, think of Michael's ideas? How many songs did Michael compose for the album? Were they all dance tracks (no, we know he wrote Little Susie too)? How many songs were considered? How were the sessions? Did it take a long time to make the album? Who played on it? Where was it recorded? How did Michael's involvement differ from that on previous (and perhaps later) projects? How was the tracklist chosen? Who came up with the idea for the album cover? How did the photoshoot go? What were the ideas for the videos? Who came up with those? How were the costumes designed? Etc etc etc etc... None of this made it into the documentary, presumably because it was more important to learn that it would be embarrassing to dance to Get On The Floor by yourself, that Rock With You was a popular rollerskating track, and that Spike Lee's love interest was not interested in seeing The Wiz with him...

Because Michael has a powerful presence, I can see how people can still come away from this documentary thinking he was a very talented, hardworking young man who dreamed big and completely dedicated himself to making his dreams come true. Just focusing on those elements is enough in that sense - and the live performance footage and other clips of Michael speak for themselves. I just feel, once again, like it could have done so much more for his artistry... Btw, the documentary just goes to show once more that the Estate's official statement about there being 'very little' in the archives is just rubbish. Just listen to the She's Out Of My Life session tape where MJ apologizes for being emotional, and look at the amazing live footage they have (including backstage interviews!). There is so much there...

The live footage was absolutely incredible though (though why did it look better in The One than here??). None of the live bands MJ ever had sounded this good and lively, and never was he as in tune with the band as he seemed here. Amazing, amazing stuff, which I hope we can all enjoy in full one day.
 
I was happy and impressed with the things the guests had to say in this documentary.
Like Berry Gordy for instance. The way he spoke of MJ's work ethic and how even at a
very young age he absorbed everything. How he was always watching, listening and learning.
He said, and as we all know, that MJ wanted to be the best at everything he ever did.
That he was not at all concerned about the work. MJ was serious business at age 9. :yes:
Berry also said that Michael surpassed what he(Berry) expected of him.
What they did was built on love and Michael was full of L.O.V.E.

Something else I learned from this docu was that the horns on Shake Your Body were played
by those of the legendary Earth Wind & Fire. I heard and loved the amazing horns but didn't
realize they were from EW&F. Also, that they wanted Maurice White on I think it was SYBDTTG.
(I gotta recheck that)

Big ups to Rod Temperton too. :) Also to Rosy Perez, Misty Copeland and Kobe Bryant who spoke of how
watching MJ helped their own artistry.

Sammy Davis: I saw flashes of me but Michael extended it, changed it, colored it....made it his own.


And that letter from MJ tho....



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*very long post alert, please just skip it if you don't want to read anything critical about the docu (that is, if the length didn't make you skip it already in the first place ;) ).*

I watched the documentary yesterday. My expectations were not very high. I enjoyed Bad 25 but thought it was very average as a music documentary. It was the behind the scenes footage that made it worth watching for me. Knowing there'd be less footage from the OTW era, I expected the documentary to be less interesting.

Unfortunately, that's what it turned out to be. I even felt that, with the exception of the 'June 25 segment' at the end of Bad 25, this documentary hit more low points as well. What I did like is that MJ's voice was used as a narrative device. It was limited and I do think with more research and effort it could have been used to a greater extent, but worked well when it was used. One of the more striking moments of the documentary to me was just hearing Michael talk about what he felt was his destiny while Todd Gray's photos were shown. I wish this was utilized more, as it was one of the few moments where it just felt like the focus was entirely on Michael.

I thought the first part of the documentary (up to The Wiz section) felt really out of place. Of course it makes sense to set up a bit of context, but I felt this was unnecessarily long for a 1,5 hour documentary that is supposed to be about the Off The Wall album. At the same time, it was not long enough to really go in-depth on anything (given that they were discussing a 20 year period). I think it would have made more sense to start the documentary with Michael arriving in New York for The Wiz and then give people a sense of the history that led up to that by showing clips that related to it (like Michael talking about going solo during the Sylvia Chase interview), or just condense everything they did here into 5 minutes or so.

To me it picked up a bit once we got to The Wiz. The way Michael and Quincy met was nicely described (glad to see at least some archive footage of Quincy in here). It was also good that Michael living in New York on his own with LaToya and going to Studio 54 during this time was brought up. This could have been explored (much) more, but at least it gave the viewer an idea of how the seeds were planted for this album.

After that things went off-track to me. We suddenly move into a discussion about the production quality of the album. Very much worth mentioning, but we go from the earliest stages of the album being created straight to an analysis of the end product. Odd. The song-by-song breakdown to me did not make any sense here, because most songs were hardly discussed at all. The first half of the album benefited from the live footage, but even those songs were really not discussed in any detail. It was heartbreaking how a lot of the live footage was broken up with 'insights' from the talking heads (a completely uninteresting person saying they danced all alone in their living room to Working Day And Night as if that is some sort of earth-shattering revelation? Whut??). Speaking of which: most of these people had no business being in this documentary. Some made at least a bit of sense. For instance, I like Kobe and I could see him being a suitable talking head in a documentary about Michael's later years (when he actually knew him) or one that focuses more on Michael's work ethic. But why was he in this much more than Bruce Swedien (btw, we know Kobe knew MJ, but this was not explained to the viewer at all. Bad filmmaking)? But what about all the seemingly random people. Rosie Perez? What the heck?

One of the low points to me was the She's Out Of My Life segment. It actually starts out as one of the best song discussions, because it was one of the few instances where we actually learned a little bit about the song's history. It was nice to hear Tom Bahler talk about how he came up with the song and how it ended up with Michael. This was followed by some nice comments by Bruce Swedien and Gamble & Huff about Michael's amazing vocal performance. But then we cut to Eddie Murphy... I like Delirious and I have no problem at all with Eddie's joke about MJ. But the way this was cut here, alternating between Eddie, Michael's live performance, and then back to Eddie crying and asking Tito for tissue, came across as borderline mocking to me (by the director, not Eddie). I thought this was so entirely out of place in what was supposed to be a documentary that makes people appreciate MJ more. And this is coming from someone who thinks the ending to the She's Out Of My Life performance is a bit too theatrical...

Some of the other 'lighthearted' moments also did not make sense to me, for a different but related reason. I don't really have a problem with including Questlove talking about how he thought MJ sang "keep on with the forks don't stop" or David Byrne saying Don't Stop's lyrics sounded like some crazy Star Wars shit to him. This might draw a laugh from viewers and make them relate - we all have at least one MJ song where we don't have a clue as to what the heck he is saying. However, I don't see the point of including this at all unless you then AFTERWARDS explain what Michael was actually saying and what he was talking about. Now it just comes across as "right, he was talking some gibberish about a force" whereas it should be "oh cool, I had no idea what he was talking about but I get it now."

Just think about it: in the end, what does the viewer really learn about the Off The Wall album from this documentary? They learn, in very abstract ways, about the history leading up to it, they learn a little about the impact it had, and the views of talking heads (of varying interest). But there is little to nothing to be learned about the record itself. What was Michael's idea for the album, what did he have in mind? What were the songs about? How did he set about composing these songs? Where were they composed? How long did it take him? What did the people working on the album, like Quincy, think of Michael's ideas? How many songs did Michael compose for the album? Were they all dance tracks (no, we know he wrote Little Susie too)? How many songs were considered? How were the sessions? Did it take a long time to make the album? Who played on it? Where was it recorded? How did Michael's involvement differ from that on previous (and perhaps later) projects? How was the tracklist chosen? Who came up with the idea for the album cover? How did the photoshoot go? What were the ideas for the videos? Who came up with those? How were the costumes designed? Etc etc etc etc... None of this made it into the documentary, presumably because it was more important to learn that it would be embarrassing to dance to Get On The Floor by yourself, that Rock With You was a popular rollerskating track, and that Spike Lee's love interest was not interested in seeing The Wiz with him...

Because Michael has a powerful presence, I can see how people can still come away from this documentary thinking he was a very talented, hardworking young man who dreamed big and completely dedicated himself to making his dreams come true. Just focusing on those elements is enough in that sense - and the live performance footage and other clips of Michael speak for themselves. I just feel, once again, like it could have done so much more for his artistry... Btw, the documentary just goes to show once more that the Estate's official statement about there being 'very little' in the archives is just rubbish. Just listen to the She's Out Of My Life session tape where MJ apologizes for being emotional, and look at the amazing live footage they have (including backstage interviews!). There is so much there...

The live footage was absolutely incredible though (though why did it look better in The One than here??). None of the live bands MJ ever had sounded this good and lively, and never was he as in tune with the band as he seemed here. Amazing, amazing stuff, which I hope we can all enjoy in full one day.





been saying for ages, this concert was the best live show MJ ever did and that's why everyone, fans, public, media, music critics alike, all wanted to see it, and these were only just the snippets of the final shows on the tour
 
The first half of the documentary was excellent. The second half was terrible. I did not want to watch The Weeknd and Questlove discuss why they enjoyed Off the Wall; I want to listen to how it was created.

Don't bring back Spike anymore. He does that too frequently.
 
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I think the top part says "this was written before Thriller", it's supposedly written in 1979
"MJ will be my new name no more Michael Jackson. I want a whole new character, a whole new look, I should be a totally different person. People should never think of me as the kid who sang ABC, I want you back. I should be a new incredible actor, singer, dancer, that will shock the world!
I will do no interviews. I will be magic. I will be a perfectionist, a researcher, a trainer, a masterer. I will be better than every great actor roped in one. I "must" have the most incredible training system to dig and dig and dig until I find.

I will study and look back on the whole world of entertainment and perfect it. Take it steps further from where the greats left off."

^I really admire his dedication & will power, he truly believed it and made it happen.. pretty inspirational!


That is MJ doing mind-mapping. I thought his mind-mapping thingy was something he started later but it seems that he was into in very early and it is obvious that he has been thinking a lot about his career path.
 
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The live footage was absolutely incredible though (though why did it look better in The One than here??).

Yeah, I noticed the same. I thought there will be more talk about this. It's definitely a different source. The One DVD snippets were sourced from the film. These were not. Maybe it's a different show?
 
*very long post alert, please just skip it if you don't want to read anything critical about the docu (that is, if the length didn't make you skip it already in the first place ;) ).*

I watched the documentary yesterday. My expectations were not very high. I enjoyed Bad 25 but thought it was very average as a music documentary. It was the behind the scenes footage that made it worth watching for me. Knowing there'd be less footage from the OTW era, I expected the documentary to be less interesting.

Unfortunately, that's what it turned out to be. I even felt that, with the exception of the 'June 25 segment' at the end of Bad 25, this documentary hit more low points as well. What I did like is that MJ's voice was used as a narrative device. It was limited and I do think with more research and effort it could have been used to a greater extent, but worked well when it was used. One of the more striking moments of the documentary to me was just hearing Michael talk about what he felt was his destiny while Todd Gray's photos were shown. I wish this was utilized more, as it was one of the few moments where it just felt like the focus was entirely on Michael.

I thought the first part of the documentary (up to The Wiz section) felt really out of place. Of course it makes sense to set up a bit of context, but I felt this was unnecessarily long for a 1,5 hour documentary that is supposed to be about the Off The Wall album. At the same time, it was not long enough to really go in-depth on anything (given that they were discussing a 20 year period). I think it would have made more sense to start the documentary with Michael arriving in New York for The Wiz and then give people a sense of the history that led up to that by showing clips that related to it (like Michael talking about going solo during the Sylvia Chase interview), or just condense everything they did here into 5 minutes or so.

To me it picked up a bit once we got to The Wiz. The way Michael and Quincy met was nicely described (glad to see at least some archive footage of Quincy in here). It was also good that Michael living in New York on his own with LaToya and going to Studio 54 during this time was brought up. This could have been explored (much) more, but at least it gave the viewer an idea of how the seeds were planted for this album.

After that things went off-track to me. We suddenly move into a discussion about the production quality of the album. Very much worth mentioning, but we go from the earliest stages of the album being created straight to an analysis of the end product. Odd. The song-by-song breakdown to me did not make any sense here, because most songs were hardly discussed at all. The first half of the album benefited from the live footage, but even those songs were really not discussed in any detail. It was heartbreaking how a lot of the live footage was broken up with 'insights' from the talking heads (a completely uninteresting person saying they danced all alone in their living room to Working Day And Night as if that is some sort of earth-shattering revelation? Whut??). Speaking of which: most of these people had no business being in this documentary. Some made at least a bit of sense. For instance, I like Kobe and I could see him being a suitable talking head in a documentary about Michael's later years (when he actually knew him) or one that focuses more on Michael's work ethic. But why was he in this much more than Bruce Swedien (btw, we know Kobe knew MJ, but this was not explained to the viewer at all. Bad filmmaking)? But what about all the seemingly random people. Rosie Perez? What the heck?

One of the low points to me was the She's Out Of My Life segment. It actually starts out as one of the best song discussions, because it was one of the few instances where we actually learned a little bit about the song's history. It was nice to hear Tom Bahler talk about how he came up with the song and how it ended up with Michael. This was followed by some nice comments by Bruce Swedien and Gamble & Huff about Michael's amazing vocal performance. But then we cut to Eddie Murphy... I like Delirious and I have no problem at all with Eddie's joke about MJ. But the way this was cut here, alternating between Eddie, Michael's live performance, and then back to Eddie crying and asking Tito for tissue, came across as borderline mocking to me (by the director, not Eddie). I thought this was so entirely out of place in what was supposed to be a documentary that makes people appreciate MJ more. And this is coming from someone who thinks the ending to the She's Out Of My Life performance is a bit too theatrical...

Some of the other 'lighthearted' moments also did not make sense to me, for a different but related reason. I don't really have a problem with including Questlove talking about how he thought MJ sang "keep on with the forks don't stop" or David Byrne saying Don't Stop's lyrics sounded like some crazy Star Wars shit to him. This might draw a laugh from viewers and make them relate - we all have at least one MJ song where we don't have a clue as to what the heck he is saying. However, I don't see the point of including this at all unless you then AFTERWARDS explain what Michael was actually saying and what he was talking about. Now it just comes across as "right, he was talking some gibberish about a force" whereas it should be "oh cool, I had no idea what he was talking about but I get it now."

Just think about it: in the end, what does the viewer really learn about the Off The Wall album from this documentary? They learn, in very abstract ways, about the history leading up to it, they learn a little about the impact it had, and the views of talking heads (of varying interest). But there is little to nothing to be learned about the record itself. What was Michael's idea for the album, what did he have in mind? What were the songs about? How did he set about composing these songs? Where were they composed? How long did it take him? What did the people working on the album, like Quincy, think of Michael's ideas? How many songs did Michael compose for the album? Were they all dance tracks (no, we know he wrote Little Susie too)? How many songs were considered? How were the sessions? Did it take a long time to make the album? Who played on it? Where was it recorded? How did Michael's involvement differ from that on previous (and perhaps later) projects? How was the tracklist chosen? Who came up with the idea for the album cover? How did the photoshoot go? What were the ideas for the videos? Who came up with those? How were the costumes designed? Etc etc etc etc... None of this made it into the documentary, presumably because it was more important to learn that it would be embarrassing to dance to Get On The Floor by yourself, that Rock With You was a popular rollerskating track, and that Spike Lee's love interest was not interested in seeing The Wiz with him...

Because Michael has a powerful presence, I can see how people can still come away from this documentary thinking he was a very talented, hardworking young man who dreamed big and completely dedicated himself to making his dreams come true. Just focusing on those elements is enough in that sense - and the live performance footage and other clips of Michael speak for themselves. I just feel, once again, like it could have done so much more for his artistry... Btw, the documentary just goes to show once more that the Estate's official statement about there being 'very little' in the archives is just rubbish. Just listen to the She's Out Of My Life session tape where MJ apologizes for being emotional, and look at the amazing live footage they have (including backstage interviews!). There is so much there...

The live footage was absolutely incredible though (though why did it look better in The One than here??). None of the live bands MJ ever had sounded this good and lively, and never was he as in tune with the band as he seemed here. Amazing, amazing stuff, which I hope we can all enjoy in full one day.

Most musical documentaries are like this. Name me one documentay tthat goes into this much detail? I've watched many documentaries about musical artists including James Brown, Bobby Womack, Elvis Presley, Curtis Mayfield etc And none of those documentaries when into too much technical information. There however like the OTW37 ALOT of anecdotes and cute stories told.
 
I think what SOME need to remember with Off The Wall Michael was very much starting to come into himself.. So there is a lot of the 'MJ' that we come to learn that came post Off The Wall so of course this documentary is not going to GRAB everyone the same way. I still think it was a nicely put together documentary!
 
Spike Lee Paid Proper Homage To Michael Jackson And Here's Why
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Lee’s Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to Off the Wall gets it right
By Jon Reyes
Posted: 02/08/2016 10:15 AM EST
Filed Under Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones, Spike Lee

The Spike Lee-directed film Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to Off the Wall details Michael Jackson's ascent from Jackson 5 to The Jacksons to his own solo career that would ultimately dub him the King of Pop. The film premiered at this year's Sundance Film Festival, with a worldwide airing through Showtime on Friday, February 5th. It's a piece of work intended for MJ lovers, but proves to be a touchstone for artists (and fans of artists) into the process of becoming a larger than life figure.

Spike Lee enlists an all-star commentary from producers, executives, songwriters, and family members that had complete access to Michael. In these interviews, he takes a nuanced look at the singer's first intensely trying transition of his life: his group's move from Motown to CBS/Epic Records. There's the legend that fans know, blessed with gifts no one else possessed. As the film progresses, it's clear that what we're to take from it all is that Michael toiled, worked, studied, and practiced his way to the peak of his career. None of it was overnight. In fact, a whole documentary about an album that was overshadowed by its follow-up is statement enough.

With unheard audio from Michael interviews and pieces of live performances with his brothers, it's clear that Jackson was ready to unearth more of what he could do. Once the Jackson brothers began working with legendary producers, Gamble & Huff, in 1976 Michael began to strip away the basic elements of what made disco great to create tunes for himself and his brothers [the documentary spends a good amount of time on "Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)"]. There was gold within this awkward era of transition, including his role in the classic film, The Wiz. We learn it was then that Quincy Jones' musical love affair with Michael began and we're even told the exact moment it happened.

There's a great amount of beauty in the documentary. Michael's transition from Motown to CBS could have been a career staller, but it was the perfect time to execute all he learned and aspired to be in the past decade. Most specifically, his knowledge on how to cut a record and itch to get onto the silver screen. He was gearing up. Then with Off the Wall he geared up some more. Some of today's producers, singers, and artists sit in the interview chair to perceptively talk about Off the Wall's technical merits, and it gives hope to the current state of music that many are quick to label as "sinking."

The documentary, while still arguably revealing very little new information about Michael, paints the era of 1975 to 1979 as a golden era of expansion for Jackson—a time to play and dream. There's a wonderful handwritten manifesto by Michael during that time about what he intended to do for the world of entertainment, it's sad and at the same time telling of the power that talent and dedication for a craft could accomplish. For any Michael Jackson lover, fan of art, stan of music, or anyone dedicated to a profession there's a lot to learn from Michael's journey to Off the Wall.

Catch Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to Off the Wall on ShowTime on Demand.
 
Is it better than Bad 25?
absolutely not. Bad 25 is million miles better than this. Most of the time only some people talking, and only few snippets with new footage we allready saw in trailers. No backstage footage or anything like this. Thats all you can say about this doc.
 
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This edition of Michael Jackson's revolutionary 1979 recording Off The Wall includes the original album re-mastered bundled with the new documentary Michael Jackson’s Journey from Motown to Off the Wall, directed by Spike Lee (choose from DVD or Blu-ray format). The deluxe softpak includes a 16-page booklet containing a new essay and photography plus a piece of chalk and inside panels with a chalkboard finish. You can pre-order this bundle before its release on February 26th here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1003018991&tag=smarturl-20. Check out what's included in the package https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq7G0L_qElQ (link in profile)
 
I watched the documentary last night. I thought it was pretty good. Nice to have something positive. I did think it got a bit boring. One time watch for me. I have the album already so won't be buying the rerelease. I think if they put it on free TV eventually that might sell some more albums. Every Mj fan should give it a watch at least once.
 
Exclusive screening in London

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Enter for a chance to win tix to an exclusive screening of ‘MICHAEL JACKSON’s Journey from Motown to Off the Wall’ http://smarturl.it/OTWcomp?iqid=fb.mj …
 
This is a bit off topic and I think i'm extremely late to this party but this is the first time noticing that Joseph actually have kinda green eyes and a very light complexion.
 
This is a bit off topic and I think i'm extremely late to this party but this is the first time noticing that Joseph actually have kinda green eyes and a very light complexion.

His eyes are blue. Michael talks about it in the bashir interview
 
I watched it today. Good stuff. Got me moving. I wanted to see more of that DSTYGE performance. :D I want more documentaries like this one. One about his humanitarianism would be great too.
 
The first half of the documentary was excellent. The second half was terrible. I did not want to watch The Weeknd and Questlove discuss why they enjoyed Off the Wall; I want to listen to how it was created.

Don't bring back Spike anymore. He does that too frequently.

But..they did discuss how it was created...and they had people reacting to it...

And Spike has only done two..not very frequent actually.
 
Honestly I'm fine with giving great contemporary acts a bit of space to discuss how much that period of MJ's career in question influenced them. Part of Michael Jackson's legacy is just how incredibly influential he is across multiple generations and it makes sense to include people from later generations who were influenced. Film is, after all, a visual medium. It makes sense to present and show the artists who were influenced, rather than just have some random session player go "oh yeah it was pretty influential aye". I can watch John Branca discuss how influential it is but I'm more likely to go along with it if a successful artist comes up and discusses it. To the average viewer, it shows just how much influence he had.

I might be watching a documentary on Hitchcock and it's great seeing filmmakers from later generations come on screen and discuss how he influenced them. Same goes for Michael Jackson and musicians.

Of course, I'd prefer Spike to focus on those who were involved with the creation of the album and it's subsequent works, but in OTW I feel like his balance with modern artists was fine. Seriously, the Weeknd probably didn't even feature for more than 30 seconds all together. Even then, they often raise good points. I remember Kanye West in Bad 25 raised some interesting points and discussed how Thriller was a more iconic era, whereas Bad on the other hand was actually more influential to music, and Questlove often brings some info to the table about the production of the record... that guy tends to be quite well researched.
 
Ya rly. People complaining about people who collectively had very little screen time.
Tho, clearly Rosie Perez was in a lot because she's engaging, if nothing else.
 
absolutely not. Bad 25 is million miles better than this. Most of the time only some people talking, and only few snippets with new footage we allready saw in trailers. No backstage footage or anything like this. Thats all you can say about this doc.

That is your opinion, not a FACT. If all you can appreciate about an artist is backstage footage, then you're short changing a majority of the development of the artist. It's called "Michael's JOURNEY from Motown to Off The Wall", not "Off The Wall Backstage Footage."
 
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